Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 Dear Heidi thanks for the answer. I'm vegan since 2 years almost, i do not use dairy products BUT it was a surprise to me when i read ayurvedic books that they highly recommended it. Then as a kundalini practitionar also found large culture in the yoga/ayurveda/india tradition of usign dairy products. You know, i trust yogi bhajan and other people that they recommend organic nor pasteurized milk and this is what i was wondering about why were the ETHICAL reasons behind those remmendations Have you found any information ? Thanks Ajai SIngh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 Milk is a vast subject in the yogic tradition. It is used in a variety of ways for therapeutic purposes and because it is considered to have a "sattvic" effect on the constitution. However, people of this tradition did not overdose on commercial milk the way most westerners did, and who now have problems related to milk as a result. The ethical question is balanced by the idea that cows are sacred throughout most of vegetarian India and are supposed to be treated that way. In return for the milk cows are supposed to be given blessings and a "spiritual fragrance" that such animals would not normally have access to. They are thus treated humanely and paid for their labours. In yoga milk, in small amounts and cooked the right way, provides lubrication and is considered soothing to the mucous membranes. That said, we will never know for sure about milk until our culture is purged of the toxic milk production industry and everybody is healed of the consequences associated with being forced to suckle the tit of that industy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2002 Report Share Posted December 14, 2002 Hello Mark I liked your explanation too. Thanks ! so, you think it could be ethically right to drink milk from an Indian Cow ? If these cows are treated so well and are given this "spiritual fragance" in return, that could be understood as a fair interchange between humans and animals ? Do you think about that possibilitie ? Do you also think that the health benefits will be superior to the disadvantages associated with milk ? Let me know Sat Nam Ajai Sing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2002 Report Share Posted December 14, 2002 Personally I don't think the ethic is practiced very much (it's an ideal), although there may be some organic farmers who have this kind of sacred relationship - I can't say. As to the benifits outweighing the detriments, that is a complex question. I drink yogi tea useing organic milk and I find it very helpful at some levels, but then I get clogged mucous membranes sometimes too. I also find ghee highly nutritious. So I think it is a personal thing. But I think we should all try to cut back on the amount of dairy in this culture, start using organic dairy, and start treating animals with the respect they deserve. Beyond that, people need to look at case by case. It's bad for some people, alright some of the time for some people, and not an issue for some people. The excessive use of it is insane however, just like the excesse of so many things in our culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2002 Report Share Posted December 14, 2002 I also wanted to add.........that animals: horses, dogs, cows etc. want to be of service, just as humans have an innate desire to be of service. If they are treated humanely they will give their life to you because of that. So I don't see a problem with cows giving milk. The whole world is a dharma, even for cows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2002 Report Share Posted December 14, 2002 I would like to add something about organic milk. I know some of the companies that produce it certainly feed their animals in accordance with the organic code, but in every other way their animals are treated exactly like animals in the regular dairy industry. They are not lving happy lives in a pasture. The only way around this seems to be choosing a compny whose methods are ethical , which probably means findng a small local producer. I would suggest trying to find what methods the various companies use. In most cases the organic dairy industry is big business, and operates as such. Avtar ______________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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