Guest guest Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 Sat Nam Guru Sahai and Gilberto! I'm going to add my 2 cents in! When I think about my spiritual practice..I think about Kundalini Yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan...It was my first spiritual practice that I was ever introduced to, it's what I practice and what I am passionate about teaching. And until recently..I've never even really questioned whether what I do in my practice is Kundalini or not. What I mean by that is...for example if I attend a Hatha class...I silently tune myself in before beginning...because I'm of the KY tradition and in my heart this makes sense to do before beginning my practice, whether I'm doing hatha or KY. I don't compartementalize my spiritual life into bits and pieces....now I'm doing KY....okay stop...now this is a Hatha posture...stop etc. Once I began my practice of Ky I began looking at other traditions because I wondered...if KY is a complete practice...why are there so many others? Frankly, unless you want to split words (or hairs!), I couldn't really find any basic underlying Truths in those other traditions that run contrary to the teachings of KY. Now I'm speaking of basic underlying themes...so please don't email me and tell me of all the differences that exist! But what I will say is that KY is more complete and as Guru Sahai mentioned pertaining more to the Age of Aquarius,that we are moving into, than other practices. So that begs the question...why after knowing what we know about KY, would we choose to merge or mingle with another tradition at the same time as practicing KY? I think the answer is....transition. There is a bridging that needs to occur between the old and the new, KY being the new. My experience tells me that not every person I meet is equiped in this moment to begin a practice of KY and maintain it...but they may be able to practice Hatha yoga and have more of a focus on tuning into awareness and the ability to witness within their practice. This is just an example I am making up, to make a point. >From my own experience, I think to myself....Why is it, that I would be trained to teach KY and then have an overwhelming invitation from others to teach Hatha Yoga, when they know that I am a KY yogi? What do I know about Hatha Yoga? I would tell these people..I don't take Hatha...I'm not qualified etc etc... and still they would insist, having seen me teach KY, that I was more than fit for the job. I think this is saying that a bridge is needed to reach all people, not just some of them. Heck...What do we think "Breath walk" is? That's a bridge if I ever saw one! My point is that there is a larger picture. A global view of unity. When we compartementalize all of our spiritual traditions or practices, we feed feelings of separatism between one and another. And again my point is never that we muddy the teachings of KY, but that we see the interconnections and find a way to create connection and unity between all practices. And getting back to my point about transitions...I believe... some of us are "multilingual" in our practices in "order" to serve as that bridge in some cases. My teacher gave us a lecture once on the Lord's Prayer. A lot of his students are practicing or non practicing Catholics. He took us through line by line and explained what each one actually meant. You might say, what does KY Yogi know about Catholism? Well he understands the underlying truth in all practices and is able to bridge that gap. At the end of the class...what had happened is...he had shown us a way to deepen our experience with the Lord's prayer. They were no longer words we recited without thought...now we had a true understanding of the depth of this prayer. It was right up there with the Mool Mantra! interms of what it actually meant. My point is...nothing in this prayer was incongruent with the practices of KY...infact everything we practice is supported by this prayer. It was quite an eye opener for me. I've also been told that Budhism (wrong spelling?) and KY are very related...but if you asked a budhist that..they would deny it? I myself love Budhism and I also love how Nath thich han in his writings relates Budhism to christianity in order to show the thread of unity which runs through all spiritual traditions. I think we are asking questions that there are no black and white answer to...we need to search our hearts and connect with the inner being..aligning ourselves with the will of God and allow that expression to come through... So...those are the few thoughts I had on the subject. All Light, Sat Sangeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2003 Report Share Posted February 7, 2003 Sat Nam Sat Sangeet Kaur, You said: >>I don't compartementalize my spiritual life into bits >>and pieces....now I'm doing KY....okay stop...now this is a Hatha >>posture...stop etc. My reply to Guru Sahai Kaur was in the context of her ky practice vs her buddhist practice and mixing both. I will try to explain it with an example. Ok, lets suppose you invite me to your class as a ky instructor to teach a group of new students. I start the class and say "Ok new yogis lets tune in with this tibetan prayer...HUNG!ORGYEN YUL-KYI NUP-CHANG TSHAM...Now we are ready, lets start a nice kriya for the spine but instead of the sat kriya, as the book says, we are doing this tibetan exercise called tummo or heat yoga meditation". What would you say? Will you let me continue? Will I be teaching kundalini yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan? The same is true the other way around, I can not go through my buddhist practice with ONG NAMO..etc, I will be corrupting the teachings in both cases. >>So that begs the question...why after >>knowing what we know about KY, would we choose to merge or mingle >>with another tradition at the same time as practicing KY? It's very common to do kundalini yoga and practice a religion also, ky is not a religion. Many ky students are also sikhs, hindu, other are christians, jews, islamics. I chose Buddhism because I feel this gives me the more realistic and coherent worldview and it provides me the best tools for understanding the mind and overcoming ignorance. Maybe there is also a karmic connection. >>I've also been told that Budhism (wrong spelling?) and KY are very >>related...but if you asked a budhist that..they would deny it? There are similarities in terms of the subtle body, i.e., chakras, channels, kundalini and some other practices, but "very related" I would not agree; nevertheless, they can be mutually complementary. >>I myself love Budhism and I also love how Nath thich han in his >>writings relates Budhism to christianity in order to show the thread >>of unity which runs through all spiritual traditions. When Thick Nhat Hahn or the Dalai Lama relate Buddhism to Christianism they do so from the ethics point of view but, of cause there are serious contradictions in terms of their view of reality; Christianism is Dualist while Buddhism (and KY/Sikhism) are Non-Dualist. To end, I need to add this: I believe that as practioners of a "True Path" (KY or Buddhism)we have the obligation to protect the teachings and maintain their purity. There is a tendency in the so called "New Age" circles to mix teachings of different paths and create hybrids that more than good what they are creating is ignorance. Blessings to All gilberto satsangeetkaur <satsangeetkaur [satsangeetkaur] Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:37 PM Kundaliniyoga Re: KY v.s.Other Spiritual Practices Sat Nam Guru Sahai and Gilberto! I'm going to add my 2 cents in! When I think about my spiritual practice..I think about Kundalini Yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan...It was my first spiritual practice that I was ever introduced to, it's what I practice and what I am passionate about teaching. And until recently..I've never even really questioned whether what I do in my practice is Kundalini or not. What I mean by that is...for example if I attend a Hatha class...I silently tune myself in before beginning...because I'm of the KY tradition and in my heart this makes sense to do before beginning my practice, whether I'm doing hatha or KY. I don't compartementalize my spiritual life into bits and pieces....now I'm doing KY....okay stop...now this is a Hatha posture...stop etc. Once I began my practice of Ky I began looking at other traditions because I wondered...if KY is a complete practice...why are there so many others? Frankly, unless you want to split words (or hairs!), I couldn't really find any basic underlying Truths in those other traditions that run contrary to the teachings of KY. Now I'm speaking of basic underlying themes...so please don't email me and tell me of all the differences that exist! But what I will say is that KY is more complete and as Guru Sahai mentioned pertaining more to the Age of Aquarius,that we are moving into, than other practices. So that begs the question...why after knowing what we know about KY, would we choose to merge or mingle with another tradition at the same time as practicing KY? I think the answer is....transition. There is a bridging that needs to occur between the old and the new, KY being the new. My experience tells me that not every person I meet is equiped in this moment to begin a practice of KY and maintain it...but they may be able to practice Hatha yoga and have more of a focus on tuning into awareness and the ability to witness within their practice. This is just an example I am making up, to make a point. >From my own experience, I think to myself....Why is it, that I would be trained to teach KY and then have an overwhelming invitation from others to teach Hatha Yoga, when they know that I am a KY yogi? What do I know about Hatha Yoga? I would tell these people..I don't take Hatha...I'm not qualified etc etc... and still they would insist, having seen me teach KY, that I was more than fit for the job. I think this is saying that a bridge is needed to reach all people, not just some of them. Heck...What do we think "Breath walk" is? That's a bridge if I ever saw one! My point is that there is a larger picture. A global view of unity. When we compartementalize all of our spiritual traditions or practices, we feed feelings of separatism between one and another. And again my point is never that we muddy the teachings of KY, but that we see the interconnections and find a way to create connection and unity between all practices. And getting back to my point about transitions...I believe... some of us are "multilingual" in our practices in "order" to serve as that bridge in some cases. My teacher gave us a lecture once on the Lord's Prayer. A lot of his students are practicing or non practicing Catholics. He took us through line by line and explained what each one actually meant. You might say, what does KY Yogi know about Catholism? Well he understands the underlying truth in all practices and is able to bridge that gap. At the end of the class...what had happened is...he had shown us a way to deepen our experience with the Lord's prayer. They were no longer words we recited without thought...now we had a true understanding of the depth of this prayer. It was right up there with the Mool Mantra! interms of what it actually meant. My point is...nothing in this prayer was incongruent with the practices of KY...infact everything we practice is supported by this prayer. It was quite an eye opener for me. I've also been told that Budhism (wrong spelling?) and KY are very related...but if you asked a budhist that..they would deny it? I myself love Budhism and I also love how Nath thich han in his writings relates Budhism to christianity in order to show the thread of unity which runs through all spiritual traditions. I think we are asking questions that there are no black and white answer to...we need to search our hearts and connect with the inner being..aligning ourselves with the will of God and allow that expression to come through... So...those are the few thoughts I had on the subject. 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