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Sat Nam Guru Sahai and Gilberto!

 

I'm going to add my 2 cents in!

 

When I think about my spiritual practice..I think about Kundalini

Yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan...It was my first spiritual practice

that I was ever introduced to, it's what I practice and what I am

passionate about teaching.

 

And until recently..I've never even really questioned whether what I

do in my practice is Kundalini or not. What I mean by that is...for

example if I attend a Hatha class...I silently tune myself in before

beginning...because I'm of the KY tradition and in my heart this

makes sense to do before beginning my practice, whether I'm doing

hatha or KY. I don't compartementalize my spiritual life into bits

and pieces....now I'm doing KY....okay stop...now this is a Hatha

posture...stop etc.

 

Once I began my practice of Ky I began looking at other traditions

because I wondered...if KY is a complete practice...why are there so

many others? Frankly, unless you want to split words

(or hairs!), I couldn't really find any basic underlying Truths in

those other traditions that run contrary to the teachings of KY.

Now I'm speaking of basic underlying themes...so please don't email

me and tell me of all the differences that exist!

 

But what I will say is that KY is more complete and as Guru Sahai

mentioned pertaining more to the Age of Aquarius,that we are moving

into, than other practices. So that begs the question...why after

knowing what we know about KY, would we choose to merge or mingle

with another tradition at the same time as practicing KY?

 

I think the answer is....transition. There is a bridging that

needs to occur between the old and the new, KY being the new. My

experience tells me that not every person I meet is equiped in this

moment to begin a practice of KY and maintain it...but they may be

able to practice Hatha yoga and have more of a focus on tuning into

awareness and the ability to witness within their practice. This is

just an example I am making up, to make a point.

 

>From my own experience, I think to myself....Why is it, that I would

be trained to teach KY and then have an overwhelming invitation from

others to teach Hatha Yoga, when they know that I am a KY yogi?

What do I know about Hatha Yoga? I would tell these people..I don't

take Hatha...I'm not qualified etc etc... and still they would

insist, having seen me teach KY, that I was more than fit for the

job.

 

I think this is saying that a bridge is needed to reach all people,

not just some of them. Heck...What do we think "Breath walk" is?

That's a bridge if I ever saw one!

 

My point is that there is a larger picture. A global view of

unity. When we compartementalize all of our spiritual traditions or

practices, we feed feelings of separatism between one and another.

And again my point is never that we muddy the teachings of KY, but

that we see the interconnections and find a way to create connection

and unity between all practices.

 

And getting back to my point about transitions...I believe... some

of us are "multilingual" in our practices in "order" to serve as

that bridge in some cases.

 

My teacher gave us a lecture once on the Lord's Prayer. A lot of

his students are practicing or non practicing Catholics. He took us

through line by line and explained what each one actually meant.

You might say, what does KY Yogi know about Catholism? Well he

understands the underlying truth in all practices and is able to

bridge that gap.

 

At the end of the class...what had happened is...he had shown us a

way to deepen our experience with the Lord's prayer. They were no

longer words we recited without thought...now we had a true

understanding of the depth of this prayer. It was right up there

with the Mool Mantra! interms of what it actually meant. My point

is...nothing in this prayer was incongruent with the practices of

KY...infact everything we practice is supported by this prayer. It

was quite an eye opener for me.

 

I've also been told that Budhism (wrong spelling?) and KY are very

related...but if you asked a budhist that..they would deny it? I

myself love Budhism and I also love how Nath thich han in his

writings relates Budhism to christianity in order to show the thread

of unity which runs through all spiritual traditions.

 

I think we are asking questions that there are no black and white

answer to...we need to search our hearts and connect with the inner

being..aligning ourselves with the will of God and allow that

expression to come through...

 

So...those are the few thoughts I had on the subject.

 

All Light,

Sat Sangeet

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Sat Nam Sat Sangeet Kaur,

 

You said:

 

>>I don't compartementalize my spiritual life into bits

>>and pieces....now I'm doing KY....okay stop...now this is a Hatha

>>posture...stop etc.

 

My reply to Guru Sahai Kaur was in the context of her ky practice vs her

buddhist practice and mixing both. I will try to explain it with an example.

 

Ok, lets suppose you invite me to your class as a ky instructor to teach a group

of new students. I start the class and say "Ok new yogis lets tune in with this

tibetan prayer...HUNG!ORGYEN YUL-KYI NUP-CHANG TSHAM...Now we are ready, lets

start a nice kriya for the spine but instead of the sat kriya, as the book says,

we are doing this tibetan exercise called tummo or heat yoga meditation". What

would you say? Will you let me continue? Will I be teaching kundalini yoga as

taught by Yogi Bhajan? The same is true the other way around, I can not go

through my buddhist practice with ONG NAMO..etc, I will be corrupting the

teachings in both cases.

 

>>So that begs the question...why after

>>knowing what we know about KY, would we choose to merge or mingle

>>with another tradition at the same time as practicing KY?

 

It's very common to do kundalini yoga and practice a religion also, ky is not a

religion. Many ky students are also sikhs, hindu, other are christians, jews,

islamics. I chose Buddhism because I feel this gives me the more realistic and

coherent worldview and it provides me the best tools for understanding the mind

and overcoming ignorance. Maybe there is also a karmic connection.

 

>>I've also been told that Budhism (wrong spelling?) and KY are very

>>related...but if you asked a budhist that..they would deny it?

 

There are similarities in terms of the subtle body, i.e., chakras, channels,

kundalini and some other practices, but "very related" I would not agree;

nevertheless, they can be mutually complementary.

 

>>I myself love Budhism and I also love how Nath thich han in his

>>writings relates Budhism to christianity in order to show the thread

>>of unity which runs through all spiritual traditions.

 

When Thick Nhat Hahn or the Dalai Lama relate Buddhism to Christianism they do

so from the ethics point of view but, of cause there are serious contradictions

in terms of their view of reality; Christianism is Dualist while Buddhism (and

KY/Sikhism) are Non-Dualist.

 

To end, I need to add this:

I believe that as practioners of a "True Path" (KY or Buddhism)we have the

obligation to protect the teachings and maintain their purity. There is a

tendency in the so called "New Age" circles to mix teachings of different paths

and create hybrids that more than good what they are creating is ignorance.

 

Blessings to All

gilberto

 

 

satsangeetkaur <satsangeetkaur

[satsangeetkaur]

Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:37 PM

Kundaliniyoga

Re: KY v.s.Other Spiritual Practices

 

 

Sat Nam Guru Sahai and Gilberto!

 

I'm going to add my 2 cents in!

 

When I think about my spiritual practice..I think about Kundalini

Yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan...It was my first spiritual practice

that I was ever introduced to, it's what I practice and what I am

passionate about teaching.

 

And until recently..I've never even really questioned whether what I

do in my practice is Kundalini or not. What I mean by that is...for

example if I attend a Hatha class...I silently tune myself in before

beginning...because I'm of the KY tradition and in my heart this

makes sense to do before beginning my practice, whether I'm doing

hatha or KY. I don't compartementalize my spiritual life into bits

and pieces....now I'm doing KY....okay stop...now this is a Hatha

posture...stop etc.

 

Once I began my practice of Ky I began looking at other traditions

because I wondered...if KY is a complete practice...why are there so

many others? Frankly, unless you want to split words

(or hairs!), I couldn't really find any basic underlying Truths in

those other traditions that run contrary to the teachings of KY.

Now I'm speaking of basic underlying themes...so please don't email

me and tell me of all the differences that exist!

 

But what I will say is that KY is more complete and as Guru Sahai

mentioned pertaining more to the Age of Aquarius,that we are moving

into, than other practices. So that begs the question...why after

knowing what we know about KY, would we choose to merge or mingle

with another tradition at the same time as practicing KY?

 

I think the answer is....transition. There is a bridging that

needs to occur between the old and the new, KY being the new. My

experience tells me that not every person I meet is equiped in this

moment to begin a practice of KY and maintain it...but they may be

able to practice Hatha yoga and have more of a focus on tuning into

awareness and the ability to witness within their practice. This is

just an example I am making up, to make a point.

 

>From my own experience, I think to myself....Why is it, that I would

be trained to teach KY and then have an overwhelming invitation from

others to teach Hatha Yoga, when they know that I am a KY yogi?

What do I know about Hatha Yoga? I would tell these people..I don't

take Hatha...I'm not qualified etc etc... and still they would

insist, having seen me teach KY, that I was more than fit for the

job.

 

I think this is saying that a bridge is needed to reach all people,

not just some of them. Heck...What do we think "Breath walk" is?

That's a bridge if I ever saw one!

 

My point is that there is a larger picture. A global view of

unity. When we compartementalize all of our spiritual traditions or

practices, we feed feelings of separatism between one and another.

And again my point is never that we muddy the teachings of KY, but

that we see the interconnections and find a way to create connection

and unity between all practices.

 

And getting back to my point about transitions...I believe... some

of us are "multilingual" in our practices in "order" to serve as

that bridge in some cases.

 

My teacher gave us a lecture once on the Lord's Prayer. A lot of

his students are practicing or non practicing Catholics. He took us

through line by line and explained what each one actually meant.

You might say, what does KY Yogi know about Catholism? Well he

understands the underlying truth in all practices and is able to

bridge that gap.

 

At the end of the class...what had happened is...he had shown us a

way to deepen our experience with the Lord's prayer. They were no

longer words we recited without thought...now we had a true

understanding of the depth of this prayer. It was right up there

with the Mool Mantra! interms of what it actually meant. My point

is...nothing in this prayer was incongruent with the practices of

KY...infact everything we practice is supported by this prayer. It

was quite an eye opener for me.

 

I've also been told that Budhism (wrong spelling?) and KY are very

related...but if you asked a budhist that..they would deny it? I

myself love Budhism and I also love how Nath thich han in his

writings relates Budhism to christianity in order to show the thread

of unity which runs through all spiritual traditions.

 

I think we are asking questions that there are no black and white

answer to...we need to search our hearts and connect with the inner

being..aligning ourselves with the will of God and allow that

expression to come through...

 

So...those are the few thoughts I had on the subject.

 

All Light,

Sat Sangeet

 

 

 

 

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Sat Nam Everyone,

All the religions in the world are competing for all the souls

in the world to take them to the same place.

 

Whatever your religion enjoy your journey. God bless you all.

 

Sincerely yours

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Sat Nam to everyone,

 

I don't know whether I am correct or not, as I see the tremendous

development and growth in science and technology - I feel today the

information has great potential and brain is the power in today's era of

information.

 

To mind spiritualism is above all religions and that is the order of the day

- where we explore the spiritual power within us and try to assimilate with

supreme power - here no dictum of any religion comes. Religion to me is a

very personal traditional belief of each one of us.

 

Namate to all

 

K S Mani (Iyer)

 

 

 

 

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