Guest guest Posted February 12, 2003 Report Share Posted February 12, 2003 Sat Nam All, I have a friend at work who's boyfriend for the past few years died suddenly in a car accident he brought upon himself. He left a lot of issues for her to deal with. She has had a difficult time moving past them and things keep resurfacing. She has asked me for advice to help her just relax and calm her mind. I told her about mantras and their vibration. I told her about Akal, Maha Kal and AAAKKKAAAALLL, before she even asked for help. She had tried it and said she just couldn't concentrate, she just ends up crying and still thinking about how he left things. I told her to keep trying and really focus on the vibrations and visualize thing working out. Is there any other acvice or mantras I can give her. Also, should she tune in before she does any mantras? Thanks, RAMA KAUR (Amanda) _______________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2003 Report Share Posted February 12, 2003 Sat Nam Rama Kaur, I don't think the advice is really any different for someone in the grieving process dealing with issues then someone who isn't. Initially if it's a new grief there's just the getting through day anyway you can phase....then I believe you go about healing the same way we all do. Some sugestions? Do some yoga prior to trying to meditate...release some of the tension and get the energy going first.....If SNR is available suggest it....it deeply relaxes the individual....there are some meds to release grief although I'm not clear from what you said, whether your friend is in an active grieving process right now, whether she has unresolved grief or whether the stress of the loss has just begun to shine a light on already existing issues? When it comes right down to it we all have unresolved everything I believe! so any yoga she does will be beneficial....you know even just leading her through some breathing...be with her when she does this..your energy and ability to focus and stay present will greatly help her to do the same....Be a Light with your presence. Much Luck and Light, Sat Sangeet Kaur Amanda Hamm <MandyPan97 wrote:Sat Nam All, I have a friend at work who's boyfriend for the past few years died suddenly in a car accident he brought upon himself. He left a lot of issues for her to deal with. She has had a difficult time moving past them and things keep resurfacing. She has asked me for advice to help her just relax and calm her mind. I told her about mantras and their vibration. I told her about Akal, Maha Kal and AAAKKKAAAALLL, before she even asked for help. She had tried it and said she just couldn't concentrate, she just ends up crying and still thinking about how he left things. I told her to keep trying and really focus on the vibrations and visualize thing working out. Is there any other acvice or mantras I can give her. Also, should she tune in before she does any mantras? Thanks, RAMA KAUR (Amanda) _______________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" - Yogi Bhajan<br><br> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, please send a blank email to Kundaliniyoga<br> NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!<br><br> WEB SITE: kundalini yoga<br><br> KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from kundalini yogaclasses.html<br><br> Transitions to a Heart Centered World - Gururattan K. Khalsa Ph.D.<br> The most comprehensive source of Yogi Bhajan's Kundalini Yoga sets and meditations available!<br> transitions.html<br> Post your free ad now! Canada Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 Satnam, I will say that death of a beloved one is very difficult and leaves the person grieving with a lot of issues to process.On a personal note I have always taken death rather strangely until I found out that it was because of my mother's unresloved death that would trigger grief in me whenever any one I knew would die.Her death happened when I was a baby so therefore unresolved issues. My brother died two years ago last week and it has been very difficult for me even now.Grief is powerful process and can leave a person feeling isolated and very out of contol.In my culture your family members usually stay with the deceased family for at least 40 days to help them cope with the loss. In this culture with families far away I have found that society wants you to achieve to much to soon in relation to the death. We would all like to be enlightened and realize the beauty of death in God's eyes but we don't. Someone who has just realized the death process and the whole spiritual aspect of it usually goes into crisis because they are like children waking up from a naive world of we will live forever. They will accept the next death a lot better.These people will benefit from a lot of yoga and meditation but..they need people to help them with it. You become like a child and you need the mother to hold you up and inspire you to move forward.When I was in grief nothing would soothe me except very kind people around me.My entire life and my future seemed to be playing itself in front of me as though I had died also.You have to re-establish a connection to why you are alive when that person you loved so dearly is gone.If this person was her soul mate it will be harder for her because of the depth of the connection.My brother was my soul mate so I could not justify on even a cellular how I could be on the planet without him. My background in the yoga was an intellectual one in relation to death. I did not have the experience of undying soul yet.To reach that place has taken many months of agonizing with my self and God.I am therefore wiser than I was before and feel mature in the working of the world. You never forget the people who help you with such grief for it is one of the moments of utter lack of independence.You do feel like a child and you don't want to. Support you friend for when you need her she will be there for you. I suggest if you live near her to "meditate with her" and help her to be brave through the process. She needs a warm hand to say I will support you unconditionally.It is human nature to need in times of grief. The love and energy that was lost has to be filled in the universe by something or someone else be it God , your friend or your pet. I have always felt that a good friend was God's hand on the earth. Well take care and I hope that I helped in some way. s.i.r. khalsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 Satnam When someone leaves your life whether in death or dissolved friendships, etc., try to see what aspect of your life they fulfilled. Look at it as your time in spiritual or personal growth to move on and fulfill this need yourself. Sometimes it takes an honest observer to help you move on. Surround yourself with people you trust and who love you. Unfortunately, you must go through your heart pain to move on. There are several books on grieving that can be very helpful. One brought into my life was How to go on living when someone you love dies By: Therese A. Rando, Ph.D. All love sent to all that are grieving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 Sat Nam s.i.r. khalsa, I wanted to take a moment to thank you for sharing your grieving experience with us....for the past 4 years I have been doing work in the area of berievement with our local hospice program .....and again and again what comes up for people...in terms of what they "need" right in this moment of grief or whatever emotion they are experiencing, is just to have someone "sit" in that moment with them.... be present with whatever they are experiencing, without judgements and a whole lot of advice....and I think you expressed that beautifully. We look to each other...when we can't personally "find" the Light within ourselves in any given moment....and we ask that the other person "shine" brightly enough so that we can "see" our way back to the Light. We become beacons of light for one another...reminding each other in every moment....of the light..and how we can go about experiencing that light in our lives once again. It is my extreme pleasure....to be given the opportunity...to "sit" with people in their darkest moments of pain and grief....and in their lightest moments of tremendous joy... All Light, Sat Sangeet jaapsahib wrote:Satnam, I will say that death of a beloved one is very difficult and leaves the person grieving with a lot of issues to process.On a personal note I have always taken death rather strangely until I found out that it was because of my mother's unresloved death that would trigger grief in me whenever any one I knew would die.Her death happened when I was a baby so therefore unresolved issues. My brother died two years ago last week and it has been very difficult for me even now.Grief is powerful process and can leave a person feeling isolated and very out of contol.In my culture your family members usually stay with the deceased family for at least 40 days to help them cope with the loss. In this culture with families far away I have found that society wants you to achieve to much to soon in relation to the death. We would all like to be enlightened and realize the beauty of death in God's eyes but we don't. Someone who has just realized the death process and the whole spiritual aspect of it usually goes into crisis because they are like children waking up from a naive world of we will live forever. They will accept the next death a lot better.These people will benefit from a lot of yoga and meditation but..they need people to help them with it. You become like a child and you need the mother to hold you up and inspire you to move forward.When I was in grief nothing would soothe me except very kind people around me.My entire life and my future seemed to be playing itself in front of me as though I had died also.You have to re-establish a connection to why you are alive when that person you loved so dearly is gone.If this person was her soul mate it will be harder for her because of the depth of the connection.My brother was my soul mate so I could not justify on even a cellular how I could be on the planet without him. My background in the yoga was an intellectual one in relation to death. I did not have the experience of undying soul yet.To reach that place has taken many months of agonizing with my self and God.I am therefore wiser than I was before and feel mature in the working of the world. You never forget the people who help you with such grief for it is one of the moments of utter lack of independence.You do feel like a child and you don't want to. Support you friend for when you need her she will be there for you. I suggest if you live near her to "meditate with her" and help her to be brave through the process. She needs a warm hand to say I will support you unconditionally.It is human nature to need in times of grief. The love and energy that was lost has to be filled in the universe by something or someone else be it God , your friend or your pet. I have always felt that a good friend was God's hand on the earth. Well take care and I hope that I helped in some way. s.i.r. khalsa "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" - Yogi Bhajan To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, please send a blank email to Kundaliniyoga NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!> WEB SITE: kundalini yoga KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from kundalini yogaclasses.html Transitions to a Heart Centered World - Gururattan K. Khalsa Ph.D. The most comprehensive source of Yogi Bhajan's Kundalini Yoga sets and meditations available! transitions.html Post your free ad now! Canada Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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