Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Sat Nam Alison, I think the breathing 'stoppages' you are referring to is an awareness. Sat Kriya is one of the most powerful ways to pull down prana, and therefore Kundalini. Once you get 'high' on K, 'higher self' really becomes involved. We don't breath correctly much of the time because we live in a state of ego, of driven by survival, so that's the way we learn to breath, in general. And old habits die hard. This breathing stoppage you referr to, is more like an awareness by the ego, that 'oh my, I'm not in control, what's going on here, I must breath!' I have these experiences too but they're trivial. If you want to experience slowness of the breath -BTW you're going to have to stop using those fancy Hatha words, Kumbhaka??!!-do the One Minute Breath meditation. You actually slow your breathing to one breath per minute. I've sat idly for seconds (minute or two?) on the out breath and and then suddenly (survival instinct) realized I wasn't breathing. "during the relaxation part of the practice tho' - It was rather easy to go with the flow of it and t'was a conscious decision to go back to breathing oxygen- amazing stuff!" --'pay no attention to the man behind the curtain', just enjoy floating in the space, and integrating all of the K you've created. As for Sat Kriya, before you go off on a tangent, realize that your getting caught up in side effects that aren't really relevant. Like GRK said, take the critical mind out of it, the experience will be that of the heart and you'll just enjoy it for what it is. Keep it simple. Do 3 mins rest 2 mins, and build up to 5 sets of that. Blessings Deva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Sat Nam Deva, I think again my words appear to be poor conveyors of what is happening - sorry. I don't use the word Kumbhaka to be "Fancy", I only used it to try and convey in some way what the experience was. The breathing stoppages were an awareness, yes, an awareness that there was no longer breathing. And this was extended. The act of deciding to breath again was conscious. There is no survival type "oh no I have stopped breathing" - tis all quite matter of fact and interesting. The survival instinct does not kick in. That is fine. These questions were not about getting caught up in sideline effects or about the critical mind getting in the way as such, this is merely wondering about guidelines to allow the body to integrate this new way of absorbing sustenance for the cells without oxygen and being aware of any possibilty of cell damage if taken to far too quickly. Rik in particular found that not breathing could have gone on indefinitely. A concious decision to breath again was therefore necessary as going along and as you say "just enjoy floating in the space," would have gone on well beyond the time guidelines... I guess that is one of the reasons why they are there. Will continue to follow those guidelines as you suggest and will ertainly try the one minute breath meditaion. Thankyou. Love and Light Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 I would just like to add a little to this discussion, though I have no experience of what is being described. Very few of us would consider going without food for the rest of our lives, and in fact would not survive beyond a certain point, yet there are many documented cases of people who have done just that. The ones I am familiar with are western mystics - Therese Neumann for one, whose only sustanence was her daily Eucharist. So just because in our present state of evolution most people could not survive without food it doesn't mean that some don't need it, surely some can absorb prana in other ways other than breathing ? I would think if this is happening it's because your body is already at a place where it can experience this. Not that I think it's unwise to be cautious - far from it - if the after efftects are worrisome. But if not, just enjoy !!!! Avtar ______________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Hi Avtar, Thankyou so much for your input > surely some can absorb prana in other ways other than breathing ? This is Exactly what it feels like. We had no previous experience of this but it is Definitely what appears to be happening. Can feel the energy/prana taking the place of the breath. 'Tis very clear. > I would think if this is happening it's because your body is already at a place where it can experience this. Not that I think it's unwise to be cautious - far from it - if the after efftects are worrisome. But if > not, just enjoy !!!! Yes, I think I would agree, Absolutely planning on enjoying it Thankyou for sharing your thoughts, tis lovely to have a supportive space to share perspectives about these explorations. Love and Light, Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 "Physicists split atoms and create tremendous energy. Yogis/Yoginis split the the moment to create great energy/prana" ----me Avtar Kaur wrote: > The ones I am familiar with are western mystics - Therese Neumann > for one, whose only sustenance was her daily Eucharist. So just > because in our present state of evolution most people could not > survive without food it doesn't mean that some don't need it, surely > some can absorb prana in other ways other than breathing ? Avtar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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