Guest guest Posted April 8, 2003 Report Share Posted April 8, 2003 This Roots discussion is fascinating.Something I've always wondered is- how did Kundalini Yoga get entwined -if that is the word- with Sikhism? Recently I met some Sikhs and was so happy to see a beautiful oil painting of Guru Nanak over their fire place - made me feel so at home. They don't do Yoga but many of their Sikh traditions and practices are familiar to me. Then of course many people do Kundalini Yoga and leave the spiritual teaching alone. What is the relationship at the beginning? Kartar Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2003 Report Share Posted April 8, 2003 SAT NAM, Cornstarch is a nice thing after showers, brush off before entering sleeping area. The root of all reality is the silence listen. One human shocked one's love out of one's heart, whaah One human woke up and got another human to wake up. Choosing one side against another or being confuse about the difference analiticalley in not free flowing beingness. If someone really woke up with love to level five all would be transformed. So let us do this work friend. ON ONE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Sat Nam Kartar, I recently did a report on this subject, what I found was Kundalini is a scientific process to raise conscienceness, as a person gains conscienceness "truth" and the Sikh religion become of interest. Its is the "Truth Seeker's" religion after all. So many Sikhs choose to become Sikhs through the practice of Kundalini Yoga. Also, many Sikh's believe Guru Nanak was against yogic practices because of many references to it in the Guru Granth Sahib about it not being the right path or having no value. But what he was actually refering to was yogis leaving their families and jobs on spiritual conquests, going to live in a cave and meditating the rest of their lives trying to unite with God, instead of being with their families uniting with God in Gods creation. Why aren't all Kundalini Yoga practitioners Sikhs? Some already have religious beliefs before they start practicing, in which case Kundalini Yoga will enhance those beliefs and help the person find the truth in their religion. Or other, like myself feel no need to commit to any religion at all, I find truth and fault in many religions. And I love practicing Kundalini Yoga. Sat Nam RaMa Kaur (can I use ths name and still not consider myself a Sikh?) >This Roots discussion is fascinating.Something I've always wondered >is- how did Kundalini Yoga get entwined -if that is the word- with >Sikhism? >Recently I met some Sikhs and was so happy to see a beautiful oil >painting of Guru Nanak over their fire place - made me feel so at >home. >Then of course many people do Kundalini Yoga and leave the spiritual >teaching alone. >What is the relationship at the beginning? > >Kartar Kaur > _______________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Sat Nam.............. You are correct in your observation that most Sikhs don't "Yoga". There are enough references in the THE GURU of yoga as possibly being a distraction from the truth, that many people are not interested and even fanatically against it. One can go to all the pilgrimage places, and cover your body in ash, hide out in a cave, do all these austerities and still miss the point. Just look at Yoga Journal! Indians somehow miss the places in THE GURU where one is instructed to meditate on the THE WORD while breathing. This is clearly a green light for some kind of Yogic practice. There is Sikh Dharma and then there are Sikhs. In my trips to India, though, I have found that one can have a very profound experience with simply doing Ishnaan and Simran. Ishnaan is the cold dip in the Nectar Tank at The Golden Temple. For most of us Hydrotherapy (a cold shower) will have to do. Simran can be Japji. My deepest experience of Ajappa Jap was after having done a dip and Japji while on the marble at the Golden Temple. Just being in India is a sort of Yoga, in that people connect and acknowledge one another. Sikhs are not renunciates in any way. They are householders. They are a "get on with it" kind of culture and have really stepped up to the plate many times in their brief history. If they are going to do a Yoga, it will be something that integrates the Raj Yoga tradition, which Kundalini Yoga as taught by Yogiji does. Guru Ram Das was King of the Yogis (Raj Yog Takhat Dyan Guru) This tradition says that we are our mind masters and that we can Rewrite the Stars, which is a pretty dangerous concept to the Hindu Caste system...and pretty Aquarian, to boot. That's all for now, Sat Nam rasheedaas wrote: >This Roots discussion is fascinating.Something I've always wondered >is- how did Kundalini Yoga get entwined -if that is the word- with >Sikhism? >Recently I met some Sikhs and was so happy to see a beautiful oil >painting of Guru Nanak over their fire place - made me feel so at >home. They don't do Yoga but many of their Sikh traditions and >practices are familiar to me. >Then of course many people do Kundalini Yoga and leave the spiritual >teaching alone. >What is the relationship at the beginning? > >Kartar Kaur > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Sat Nam Kartar and Rama Kaur....yes...your spiritual name is yours, Rama .....My thoughts on the name "Khalsa" (pure one), (although someone of the Sikh Dharma may disagree...I don't know)...is that anyone who lives that consciousness is a Khalsa....whether you have asked for and recieved a spiritual name or not. For me Khalsa is more of a "symbolic" name... rather then an indicator of my lineage or religious practice. As we've spoken about in the past, KY is a spiritual practice/technology bound by no individual religion....it is meant for all. My understanding of why Sikhism has been tied to it...is because the teachings of KY had been lost for some time in history and then finally re-emerged again through the 10 Sikh Guru's..inorder to usher us into the Aquarian Age. I don't no whether that adds anything knew to the conversation or not? I believe in the future as the technology and practices of KY spread, we will probably see it being less tied to a particular religion....because more and more non-Sikh teachers will emerge....and I believe it's mainly through the process of having a Sikh teacher, that people may eventually choose to become part of the Sikh Dharma. ....and I believe the more Aquarian we become.... the less divisions, titles and definitions, we will use to describe ourselves.....my hope is that we become more universal... able to observe the inherent beauty in all practices that lead to the experience of Truth. Which is what I believe we all try to do on this list, through our varied and similar spiritual practices. All Light, Sat Sangeet Kaur Amanda Hamm <MandyPan97 wrote: _______________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Sponsor [input] [input] [input] [input] [input] [input] I'm a WomanMan seeking a ManWoman Enter city or ZIP [input] Age: [input] to [input] [input] Show only ads with photos [input] "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" - Yogi Bhajan To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, please send a blank email to Kundaliniyoga NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!> WEB SITE: kundalini yoga KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. Details from kundalini yogaclasses.html Transitions to a Heart Centered World - Gururattan K. Khalsa Ph.D. The most comprehensive source of Yogi Bhajan's Kundalini Yoga sets and meditations available! transitions.html Post your free ad now! Canada Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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