Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 - Egyptian culture and its spiritual tradition,was in no doubt the atlas of history. Likewise the rest of Africa, as the well of African wisdom can attest, and to which the deep Shamanic traditions there give evidence. However, to suggest that my criticisms are based on an uncritical western or eastern mode of thinking, is wrong. I have attacked some of the statements herein for the following reasons: 1. I have personal experiences with power generated by spiritual practices and spiritual groups (including Egyptian and African sorcery) and used for negative, self serving purposes. Although I do get worked up about it I am not coming from a purely emotional point of view on this. I am coming from the view that how "spiritual" power is used and abused needs to be discussed openly. We cannot just focus on the positive. It is our responsibility, as people currently on the leading edge of spiritual history, to understand how power works, for good and for bad.It has been the long history of human beings, for many thousands of years now, to discover some sort of power, and then to let it be used unecologically.We can not blind ourself to this reality. We need to understand it. 2. My assertion concerning the question of Atlantis, and of the fate of Egyptian gold, is of primary importance. After much meditation, and my own historical research, I believe that what we call Atlantis will one day be shown to be "beneath" the Egyptian culture of which we are familiar. Does this mean Atlantis is another word for an early Egyptian culture. Perhaps. At any rate, to deny its existance as a phenomena, or to declare it a myth, is simply the flip-side of a binary arguement. The fascination with Atlantis amongst many spiritual teachers points to a phenomena that should not be written off as simple myth. For instance, it has been stated that during that period human beings made the first decision to develop power independent of any sense of divinity. And if gold was indeed the symbol of eternity (in Tibetan Bhuddist culture that is still prevelant) why is that the Egyptian partiarchs had such a privelaged position in respect to this. Surely we can not deny the spiritual self angrandizement suggested by this practice and the spiritual insecurity the excess also suggests? 3. It is my view that this new age is one where the development of our own individual power is maintained, re-united to a sense of divine ecology, so that the recent past and the far past are brought into purposeful realignment. To withdraw the diamond of the past, and discount its dark cousin, by myth or science, is a grave mistake. 4. As for Tarzan - that is not my image, far from it, and find the suggestion offensive and a distraction from addressing the real issues which I have been trying to address. Members of my family lived in Africa for many generations, I have been there, and spent half my life fascinated by the long arm of African history, culture and mysticism. I grieve the darkness that has enveloped the continent; but I refuse to deny its many roots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 (a follow up from Muata Ashby, Ph.D.) Greetings and Blessings, I hope this letter finds you well. Actually, this sort of letter is very good because it points up some of the issues that many people believe. For the past 200 years many western Egyptologists and religious leaders have acted in concert to misrepresent African culture and spirituality in general and Ancient Egyptian religion specifically. Such prominent European Egyptologists and Anthropologists as Basil Davidson, Martin Bernal and John Anthony West have demonstrated and documented this. However, the academic establishment, which supports the western primacy in culture, religion and history, denies and suppresses this. Further, the misrepresentations in popular media such as the Mummy movies and the Stargate show leave people with a misunderstanding about Ancient Egyptian culture and spirituality. Therefore, I need not respond in detail to such inquiries since the reality is plain to see for those who desire to do so through scholarly books. The following is given for those sincere individuals who would like me to share some of my researches in the spirit of exploration and elevation of truth. I have made and will make no assertions that are not corroborated by irrefutable evidence. This is not possible for those who prefer to believe in legends or superstitions. It is noteworthy that many of those who choose to follow "Eastern Gurus, or any secular or spiritual tradition for that matter," do not feel the need to apply critical thinking to the histories and teachings they receive, while Kamitan teachers (proponents of Ancient Egyptian spirituality or African religion in general), are often challenged or sometimes dismissed. This is part of a long history of miseducation from slavery times which was documented by Carter G. Woodson and Dr. Frances Cress Welsing, wherein the long-standing practice of denigrating African culture and things African has become endemic of world culture since it is dominated by the western media. However, those who seek to uplift culture, be they Indian, Native American, or African sages, do so regardless of the detractors because it is the right thing and they serve humanity at the behest of their internal divine calling. Therefore, I am not in the least disturbed by these sorts of comments. However, I do not devote much time to them because I am too busy working with qualified and sincere aspirants, those who recognize the value of the teaching and do not want to hold onto ignorant notions. Certainly, I know of no African teachers who say that African culture and spirituality have not been misused or misunderstood by some African practitioners. Can any culture or religions say otherwise? However, the greatness of Neterian spirituality far outweighs and overshadows the faults. The evidence of this is in the legacy that lasted for thousands of years and lives on even today. Briefly, as for the use of gold, it was a symbol of spiritual enlightenment (See the book Serpent Power), thus it was relegated to the house of eternity, symbolically, the tomb. Neterian philosophy holds that the mortal life is transient and the afterlife is eternal. Also the abundance of gold which came from the interior of Africa, through trade with the Nubians-cousins of the Ancient Egyptians-was such that there was no feeling of loss or possessiveness, especially when Kamitan culture was not materialistic. So there was and is no need to leave gold behind for the living. As for dark sorcery, African culture has indeed suffered much degradation, yes, due to outside influence which fomented internal corruption. And could this not be said of Western and Asian culture and Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism or Islam as well? Yet, have any of those cultures experienced what Africa has? For more details on this issue I suggest those interested should read the Book African Origins - section 1 which deals with the documented history of African religion in Africa and in the Diaspora and how it has been transformed and damaged over the last 20 centuries and section 2 which deals with the misconceptions about western culture and westerns religion, tracing the origins back to Kamit (Africa) showing the deviations, beginning with the Greek philosophers and the contradictions that developed in western religions and section 3 which deals with the misconceptions about eastern culture and eastern religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, and Yoga [including Kundalini)), tracing the origins back to Kamit (Africa) showing the deviations, and contradictions that developed in eastern religions beginning with the Vedic Age to the present. As the late eminent mythologist Joseph Campbell once said, anyone can point to disparities and negative aspects but how many can discover and affirm the harmonies and glories of world myth and spirituality? Surely, error can be found anywhere one may look since even the sages are human. But also there is greatness in the teaching and there is a purpose to all that the Divine has created. Should we disregard the Dalai Lama because he tripped and broke a vase or because some of his lama followers advocate war instead of peace? Is his teaching invalidated because he eats meat? Are the words of Jesus dismissed and is Christianity less valid because some Christians are capitalists, destroyers of natural resources or intolerant advocates of war? Is Judaism nullified because some Jew mistreat Palestinians? Is Islam negated because many followers destroyed Indian temples during the conquest of India? Is Indian culture and religion to be set aside because it fell from the greatness of Rama Raja and the glory of Krishna's kingdom or because Hindus practice male dominance over women or because there are so many charlatans who call themselves yogis and gurus that the Indian scriptures themselves caution aspirants to seek an authentic teacher? Is the Sikh teaching to be discarded because some Sikhs are revolutionary assassins or terrorists? Those who have thought about these issues deeply develop sensitivity to the subtlety of a teaching beyond the error of some of its practitioners. They also realize that a teaching is unlikely suited for the people who espouse and practice it due to Ari (Karma) so all authentic teachings should be respected since there is worth in everything and everything comes from a source no matter how changed it may become. Yet, nothing will help those who choose to ignore evidences in order to protect cherished beliefs. Strong aspirants must break through the impasse of egoism, fear, desire and ignorance in order to follow the path that leads to blessedness. In our current history there is simply no evidence of any advanced civilization older than the Kamitan. Yet, even our ancestors said the teaching was given to them by Djehuti (God), just as their cousins, the Indian sages of the Upanishads spoke of the teaching being given by Brahma. All societies fall as a natural consequence of complacency. A few years ago, when asked why Indian society was so degraded after reaching such heights, Swami Jyotirmayananda, the world renowned teacher of Vedanta answered "it is because the younger generation lives off the greatness of their ancestors and they do not practice what the ancestors did to become great." Nevertheless, while societies may rise and fall or come and go the teaching remains even in desolate times, carried forth by initiates in secret, until such time as the worldly culture reaches its period of decline and the value of the teaching is sought once again by the masses. Peace and Blessings HTP, Si Neter iri Ankh Udja Senab Sebai Muata Ashby ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''\ ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''\ ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Let's get past our conditioned responses. Remember Tarzan???? http://www.dailywav.com/0900/tarzan.wav ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''\ ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''\ ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' sevasimransingh wrote: >Well....no offence to anyone, but the good Doctor's response is >typical of the Egyptian patriarchy: "Our civilisation was the >greatest until it was invaded by pillaging hords. Atlantis did not >exist because we were the first. The desertification had nothing to >do with us, .... and so on." Where did all the gold come from and why >was it buried with the king, rather than left to the people? Why is >African spirituality riddled with dark sorcery? Why, if they were >such an ecological people, did they decide to stop worshipping MA and >worship RA only. Egyptian spirituality may indeed have been a high >art, and their priests great masters. However, at some point the >Egyptians got corrupted and destroyed themselves. They should stop >blaming it on others. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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