Guest guest Posted April 17, 2003 Report Share Posted April 17, 2003 Sat Nam:I have a basic question, which is not simple the way I see it. When one can see the tremendous potential within oneself, however, one always feels like an outsider looking in, and one wants to very badly be on the inside, but it is not determination, decisions that make such things happen. It is something else. My question is how can one at least try to facilitate the process of waking what exists in oneself. One has been able to catch a glimpse of it many times, one has had that fortune, but there is something that stops and hinders progress.I do not know if I am making sense, but it is a deeply troubling issue to me.Peace to all.Lyn The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2003 Report Share Posted April 18, 2003 -Great question. In my experience, the growth of consciousness is somewhat circular. You circle through your being, touching off aspects of your self. Some of these aspects just need to be acknowledged and by doing so they become re-integrated into the whole and do not require any special attention. Some of them have to be touched off a bunch of times for that to happen, some just once. But other aspects of your consciousness may need to be brought forth more strongly, for purposes of healing or because they represent your path in life. For those parts of your self it becomes necessary to find those practices, meditations, philosophies, activities, readings etc., that invoke that part of you and help bring it forth. Often it relates to the planet rulling your day of birth, I've noticed. An example of this is Tibetan Bhuddism where when you have finished the ngondro - the preliminary practices - you are often given a yidam practice that relates specifically to the kind of "enlightenment" that is most relevent to your consciousness stream. > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2003 Report Share Posted April 18, 2003 Sat Nam.What you say makes sense not just logically, but from experience. The frustrating part is when an aspect of oneself just refuses to "awaken" for a while. Further, not having a teacher to see what is it that causes the blockage one left to onself, develops a certain feeling of failure. Telling oneself in that situation, that the right time still has to come is not of much help either. You say below, one can find those meditations, etc that help. How does one find these?-L The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2003 Report Share Posted April 19, 2003 I hear you about feeling like a failure and not being able to awaken in the way needed. Have you tried any particular meditations? Anything that helps your self awareness is going to be good - satanama for instance. However, if you have a sense of what it is you are trying to embody/awaken whatever stimulates that is also going to stimulate what is getting in the way. As far as yoga and meditation goes, it is a matter of experimentation, unless you get some kind of inner guidance indicating do this or that. But remember that the goal at this time is uncovering the real inner person, warts and all, and letting go of what you don't need anymore. What you feel you want to do, is probably what you need to do in order to cooperate with the process. That may change day to day as you stalk your own inner being and lay to rest the old veils. Just remember the sutras we use in kundalini yoga: "there is a way through every block," and, "when the time is on you, start and the pressure will be off." Just don't follow the cookbook. Follow your heart. P.S. If you still feel stuck, and there is no teacher or whatever, you can always contact me off-list if you want to discuss the options further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2003 Report Share Posted April 20, 2003 SatNam SevaSimran:Thanks very much for your advice. So far, I have not tried any particular meditations, however, I will try the SataNama meditation. I also realise (most of the time) that I will have to cooperate and not only not fight what I am struggling through, but also not try to adopt a crutch, try to con myself out of the hard work that is going to be essential. In fact, it is exactly when I try to not choose the latter path that believe it or not, things actually begin getting easier. The problem does not solve itself, but it does not plateau, and does not regress at least. I think the most limiting thing is the ego that coaxes oneself to use the shortest, what seems to be the easiest path. I especially resonate with the following statement of yours:"However, if you have a sense of what it is you are trying to embody/awaken whatever stimulates that is also going to stimulate what is getting in the way. " It is absolutely true in my case, and it is seeing the rising up of what is getting in the way that tends to frighten me away at times when I am not sensitive to what is happening. Thanks very muchLyn P.S: I have practised yoga for many years, but am new to KY, and have never been introduced to it, however, I have never been able to keep away from it. It almost seems like I keep getting drawn to it. I agree about finding the inner message, since I have never been able to succeed at something totally external, unless it got a positive response from within. The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Sat Nam Seva Simran!!!I now understand your message much better. You see at various times, I have felt, that I am being given the "same" situation again and again, and I also know that until I learn something I cannot proceed. We are really essentially given the same situation to be able to abstract from it, the essence, and once that essence has been abstracted and is internalized, we move on to the next situation, is it not? However, sometimes, when one sees the similar situations, and one is unable to abstract, that is the block. Perhaps there are other times, when one has not even been able to realize the similarity of the situations and hence abstraction is quite a distance away. It is because of teh former, that you said that in KY it is possible to work through every block. Also, you said that whatever helps self-awareness will also help with the block. At the time of the previous posting and exchange, I was so "blocked" by everything that for your message to make sense was in itself a hurdle. However, the self-awareness in an entirely different area helps to open up the "block" itself. I understand now. Is it not true that essentially the messages are all there all the time, and it is a matter of one being in a state that one is able to see them? Is this not surrender or allowing oneself or letting go? Sat NamEagerly awaiting your response. sevasimransingh <mark.terrell wrote:I hear you about feeling like a failure and not being able to awaken in the way needed. Have you tried any particular meditations? Anything that helps your self awareness is going to be good - satanama for instance. However, if you have a sense of what it is you are trying to embody/awaken whatever stimulates that is also going to stimulate what is getting in the way. As far as yoga and meditation goes, it is a matter of experimentation, unless you get some kind of inner guidance indicating do this or that. But remember that the goal at this time is uncovering the real inner person, warts and all, and letting go of what you don't need anymore. What you feel you want to do, is probably what you need to do in order to cooperate with the process. That may change day to day as you stalk your own inner being and lay to rest the old veils. Just remember the sutras we use in kundalini yoga: "there is a way through every block," and, "when the time is on you, start and the pressure will be off." Just don't follow the cookbook. Follow your heart. The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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