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Dear Sat Sangreet,

 

Life force and consciousness are 2 aspects of the same coin. Another is being.

It's like saying water is wet, clear and fluid. It's still water. Distinctions

are made to give varied perspectives some meaning, but, as you see, we get

caught into the varied views, as though they relate to something distinct, when

it is just the same thing. You may have heard the story about the blind men and

the elephant, each describing from their position around the element what an

elephant is. Same thing.

 

Consciousness is the field or screen in which the gross, subtle and spiritual

appear. Again these 3 aspects of what appears in consciousness are not

distinct. It's like the foundation, the internal structure and facade of a

building, which are all, nevertheless, one building in which the apparent

aspects or parts cannot be by themselves. The foundation itself is grounded in

the vastness of the earth / planet. this vastness which we can liken to

consciousness.

 

That which fills the body is consciousness, which we feel and call by the name

of life force. This is all bound together by what we call Being, which is the

sense of identity to the appearing images within consciousness.

 

The seat of this being / consciousness from which emanates the intelligent life

force, is in the heart, 2 digits to the right of the sternum, where we point

when we say "I." The three states, waking dreaming and deep sleep, appear in

the forth, yogis call Turya, which is the field or screen of self-effulgent

consciousness. When the mind becomes still, the reflected consciousness in the

brain inverts and reflects the all-pervasive Self in the Heart.

 

As the mind begins to become single and pervasive, pulsing with the impalpable

sensation of "I as I," the whole body begins to fill with light. The chakras

open upwards, and energy flows downward from the crown. As there is a demand

within the body for a chemical electric balance to be maintained in relation to

the expanding awareness of the ever present consciousness that lights us all,

bindu transforms to ojas, the glands secrete and the base of the spine opens

allowing the passage of this chemical electric substance to flow up to the brain

to sustain the increasing energy levels.

 

In the practice of kundalini yoga, as taught by Yogi Bhajan, we simply apply

this awareness towards the single watching of the positions and movements of the

body in conjunction with the breathing, with the result that over a relatively

short period of time, all the nerves, glands, organs and related plexuses

(chakras), fill with and store prana. You begin to feel a sense of solidness

like a steel, as the body becomes like a tuning fork that will resonate with the

slightest impact of sound. Another way to look at this is that with the filling

of the body with prana from the kriyas, sets and meditations, it is like the

tuning of guitar strings, only in the body, there are 72,000 main vibratory

strings, with the main ones being the ida and pingala and sushumna between along

the spine (the silver cord), the gold cord between the brow point and crown, and

the atma nadi between the crown and the Heart Center (the One Star) - not to be

confused with the anahata chakra.

 

When mantra is added to the process, the 72,000 strings begin to resonate and

the vibration increases in the sushumna. Suddenly, the awareness of the inner

vibration of the life force resounds. When attention to any sound and sensation

disengages altogether and you abide in the Heart as the seer only, your computer

is perfectly linked to the universal Computer. Inside and outside vanish, "and

life in true faith is possible..."

 

This Hearty Center is called the One Star (Ik Tar) because it has a

gravitational aspect of sucking in everything, which is the feeling of being

around which we build the idea of an identity. When the mind becomes still,

this feeling of identity pulses as "I" without any attention to and "I this." or

"I that." Its other aspect is that of pervasive light through which all the

lenses of the mind (the chakras) are able to provide aspects of perception.

 

But when at some time the mind inverts and reflects the Heart purely, the moon

of the mind and all its lenses have little use, because the sun in the Heart has

risen. In Christianity, it is called the "Resurrection unto Eternal Life,"

which Christ told the Apostles, is a Commandment that he should pass onto them.

 

What does this mean It means that as long as we use the mind to see, we have a

waxing and waning perception of who we are, of life and reality. But when the

sun in the Heart awakens, recollected as our true identity, then the moon of the

mind is no longer necessary to seen, similar to the analogy of seeing a full

moon in the clear blue sky, after the sun rises. In fact yogis say that we only

seem to use the mind to see, and we only seem to experience duality of a subject

and object, a person with a body and thoughts and impressions about a separate

world and apparently others in such a world. In Reality, there is no duality.

As soon as the pulsing of the Self in the Heart is felt, this non-dual nature of

your True Identity, becomes apparent. The whole body (gross, subtle, spiritual)

resonates with this single pulsation and experience of pervasiveness.

 

In Kundalini Yoga, all this happens of its own accord. All that is required is

to keep up. The Japji refers to these aspects of hearing, remembrance and

abiding, as do all religions. This Hearing - all hearing, originates in the

Heart. or this reason, all religions say that the highest Temple is the Heart.

practice and always remember who and what you really are, and the recollection

of That will begin to dawn on you and overtake all other images, as though you

are coming out of an amnesia. "well in God and befriend your soul." Yogi

Bhajan.

 

Pieter

 

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Mastery of consciousness and Life force

 

My question is about mastery...in particular, mastery of the Life

force and mastery of consciousness.

 

Sat Sangeet

 

 

 

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Sat Nam Ya'll,

I think we master the Life force when we master ourselves.

satsangeetkaur [satsangeetkaur]

Friday, April 18, 2003 1:20 PM

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Greetings All...part 2!

 

My question is about mastery...in particular, mastery of the Life

force and mastery of consciousness.

 

I woke up this morning remembering something from 13 years ago. I

had mentioned before that I had "accidentally" gone to see a Shaman

once. By accident, all I mean is, I didn't know he was a Shaman at

the time, somebody told me to go see him and I just kinda went...I

didn't really understand what went on while I was there, but I felt

better after I had left.

 

Now having had some KY experience, I can put into perspective, what

it is that went on...and what I remembered this morning, as I was

waking up, was that, he did this procedure as I sat in a chair, and

the end result, was that my kundalini energy had been raised.

 

Now I'm not trying to begin a discussion on how to raise the

kundalini energy out side of practices taught by Yogi Bhajan...what

it got me to wondering about was...How is it that one individual can

raise the kundalini of another? Is this mastery of the Life Force?

 

What are the ingredients in this situation? I asked earlier this

month... how can one master the life force without having mastered

consciousness first? The answers I received, did not describe

mastery, in my view...they described what the outcome is when the

energy begins to raise and one is still quite neurotic and not

consciously working with what is arising for them.

 

So it leaves me wondering...is mastery of the life force a result of

mastering consciousness? When I think about the Life Force or

prana...I think of it as being the "God Force"...so how does one

master that without, mastering (God) consciousness?

(not to be presumptuous, that we could master God consciousness, in

the human form...but you see where I am going with this).

 

Or maybe my question is...how does one master the Life force? (if it

is something outside of mastering consciousness?)

 

So within Kundalini yoga, am I right to assume that one can master

just parts of it? To me that doesn't seem like mastery...because

there are still parts that are not mastered then...?

 

...But I realize with all of this I have a way of thinking "too big"

at times....I can see in order to master all...it's a process of

mastering all the parts first...and one has to be in the process

they are currently in...and there is not much point in looking too

far down the road, I guess!! Ha ha!

 

So I think what I want to understand is...when someone has mastered

the life force...what does that look like in their day to day

experience... so that I can contrast that with how mastering

consciousness looks like, in order to have a deeper understanding.

 

Thanks,

Sat Sangeet

 

 

 

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Hi Sat Sangeet,

I think I understand your question. And this question can be

answered by looking at it from the Ten Bodies perspective (Akar

Numerology), there is a flow and progression. Simply put, when we master

the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th bodies, the Negative, Positive and Neutral Minds,

we are automatically given mastery of the Eighth Body, the Pranic Body.

To break it down a bit (but not completely) first we have to trust that

if there is a tension in our mind (Negative or Positive), there will be

a tension in our body and breath and that's true for the inverse. This

mind/body tension is needs at-tention and resolution before we can flow.

When we able to simply listen to the Negative and Positive Minds, and

what these bodies are saying, rather than BEING it, we are beginning to

operate from the Neutral Mind, the Heart. Having established that

relationship and if we are able to fully be there, we will be given the

key to the Eighth Body, The Pranic body. Prana is the Life Force.

Fearlessness, Healing, Music, Power, Purity, Innocense, Playfulness

(watch some comedians) are all qualities of the Eighth Body. If we can

have mastery of the Pranic Body, we can contain. It is something that

just happens as a result of mastering the mind. For more elaboration on

this go to www.3HO.org and plug in different birthdays to see what the

script gives back or....... buy the Book (there are several).

 

Sat Nam,

Dharam

 

satsangeetkaur wrote:

 

> Greetings All...part 2!

>

>

> Or maybe my question is...how does one master the Life force? (if it

> is something outside of mastering consciousness?)

>

> So within Kundalini yoga, am I right to assume that one can master

> just parts of it? To me that doesn't seem like mastery...because

> there are still parts that are not mastered then...?

>

> ...But I realize with all of this I have a way of thinking "too big"

> at times....I can see in order to master all...it's a process of

> mastering all the parts first...and one has to be in the process

> they are currently in...and there is not much point in looking too

> far down the road, I guess!! Ha ha!

>

> So I think what I want to understand is...when someone has mastered

> the life force...what does that look like in their day to day

> experience... so that I can contrast that with how mastering

> consciousness looks like, in order to have a deeper understanding.

>

> Thanks,

> Sat Sangeet

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Sat Nam Dharam,

I'm still chewing on this info you gave me....so you are saying mastery of the

negative, positive and neutral mind = mastery of the pranic body which = mastery

of the life force? The question that arises for me is...if you have the

neutral mind mastered...why would you ever act out of accordance with it? The

neutral mind will give you the most promoting option for everyone involved, in

every situation and if you have it mastered...why would one ever choose, not to

follow it's advice?

I'm trying to understand how one could have mastery of the life force and then

abuse it, misuse or distort it? If the heart is open and intact...how could

that happen?

I feel like I'm missing a piece of the puzzle? Something isn't clicking for me?

Sat Sangeet

 

Dharam Singh <dharam wrote:Hi Sat Sangeet,

I think I understand your question. And this question can be

answered by looking at it from the Ten Bodies perspective (Akar

Numerology), there is a flow and progression. Simply put, when we master

the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th bodies, the Negative, Positive and Neutral Minds,

we are automatically given mastery of the Eighth Body, the Pranic Body.

To break it down a bit (but not completely) first we have to trust that

if there is a tension in our mind (Negative or Positive), there will be

a tension in our body and breath and that's true for the inverse. This

mind/body tension is needs at-tention and resolution before we can flow.

When we able to simply listen to the Negative and Positive Minds, and

what these bodies are saying, rather than BEING it, we are beginning to

operate from the Neutral Mind, the Heart. Having established that

relationship and if we are able to fully be there, we will be given the

key to the Eighth Body, The Pranic body. Prana is the Life Force.

Fearlessness, Healing, Music, Power, Purity, Innocense, Playfulness

(watch some comedians) are all qualities of the Eighth Body. If we can

have mastery of the Pranic Body, we can contain. It is something that

just happens as a result of mastering the mind. For more elaboration on

this go to www.3HO.org and plug in different birthdays to see what the

script gives back or....... buy the Book (there are several).

 

Sat Nam,

Dharam

 

satsangeetkaur wrote:

 

> Greetings All...part 2!

>

>

> Or maybe my question is...how does one master the Life force? (if it

> is something outside of mastering consciousness?)

>

> So within Kundalini yoga, am I right to assume that one can master

> just parts of it? To me that doesn't seem like mastery...because

> there are still parts that are not mastered then...?

>

> ...But I realize with all of this I have a way of thinking "too big"

> at times....I can see in order to master all...it's a process of

> mastering all the parts first...and one has to be in the process

> they are currently in...and there is not much point in looking too

> far down the road, I guess!! Ha ha!

>

> So I think what I want to understand is...when someone has mastered

> the life force...what does that look like in their day to day

> experience... so that I can contrast that with how mastering

> consciousness looks like, in order to have a deeper understanding.

>

> Thanks,

> Sat Sangeet

 

 

 

 

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I may not have understood your original question.

Well, just to pick things up from where we seem to be, I think we

could have "mastery" from a small, disciplined corner of one's being or

heart. Then one day we relax and realize that a part of the self that we

had put on hold (and thought we could put off entirely) is keeping it's

appointment. Looking back, our heart may not have been as open as would

be ideal, but that is human as well. Being on a path entails some

wobbling, as we lose heart and have doubts. Doubt is part of the circle.

If we never doubt, then we never ask questions. If we never ask

questions, how can we say we know something is valid? Only then can we

have faith, and not just blind following. That is the negative mind

coming through, thank God. Having tested the waters, we then have energy

to explore the possibilities. Faith and Energy are necessary. This is

positive mind speaking to us as we move forward.

I would re-phrase what said about "mastering" the Neutral Mind. To me,

you can master the Negative and Positive minds but being in the Neutral

mind is so much more expansive and almost by definition, just happens to

you as does the Pranic Body. It's a Grace....you can't go after it. You

can only receive Guru Prasad. All we can do is facilitate the flow, do

our preparations (yoga), Karma Yoga, serve and let go. Some of us are

better at this surrendering than others. We can have intentions and go

through the motions, bowing often and with reverence but these are only

gestures. Sometimes it's life itself that throws us that big arcing

curveball that finally makes out knees buckle, dropping the bat at our

feet. It is here that all of that yoga and meditation pays off because

if you've been earnest and open, you've been creating something really

beautiful that's just waiting to come to term. You'll find all kinds of

richness in this process of "destruction" (Shiva will make himself

known). It's from this place that we start feeling a new depth of self

and with that, a broader sense of the needs of others and what might be

best for the whole begins to govern our thoughts and actions.

It's all a flow and it's circular. Our orientation goes from 2nd Chakra

obsessions (Negative mind, Longng to Belong), to 3rd Chakra (Positive

Mind, Devil or Divine) to the 4th Chakra (Neutral or Yogic Mind). At

whatever level we are at we are still humans having a human experience.

We can be the most "faithful idiots". Nothing is linear.

The only sin is laziness

Check out "How to know God: The Yoga Aphorisms of Patanjali" by Swami

Prabhavananda and Christopher Isherwood. This is essential reading. It

might be at www.yogatech.com

Sat Nam,

Dharam

 

You may want to check what sources you have at hand to get a more

satisfying answer.

 

 

Sat Sangeet wrote:

 

>

> Sat Nam Dharam,

> I'm still chewing on this info you gave me....so you are saying

> mastery of the negative, positive and neutral mind = mastery of the

> pranic body which = mastery of the life force? The question that

> arises for me is...if you have the neutral mind mastered...why would

> you ever act out of accordance with it? The neutral mind will give

> you the most promoting option for everyone involved, in every

> situation and if you have it mastered...why would one ever choose, not

> to follow it's advice?

> I'm trying to understand how one could have mastery of the life force

> and then abuse it, misuse or distort it? If the heart is open and

> intact...how could that happen?

> I feel like I'm missing a piece of the puzzle? Something isn't

> clicking for me?

> Sat Sangeet

>

> Dharam Singh <dharam wrote:Hi Sat Sangeet,

> I think I understand your question. And this question can be

> answered by looking at it from the Ten Bodies perspective (Akar

> Numerology), there is a flow and progression. Simply put, when we master

> the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th bodies, the Negative, Positive and Neutral Minds,

> we are automatically given mastery of the Eighth Body, the Pranic Body.

> To break it down a bit (but not completely) first we have to trust that

> if there is a tension in our mind (Negative or Positive), there will be

> a tension in our body and breath and that's true for the inverse. This

> mind/body tension is needs at-tention and resolution before we can flow.

> When we able to simply listen to the Negative and Positive Minds, and

> what these bodies are saying, rather than BEING it, we are beginning to

> operate from the Neutral Mind, the Heart. Having established that

> relationship and if we are able to fully be there, we will be given the

> key to the Eighth Body, The Pranic body. Prana is the Life Force.

> Fearlessness, Healing, Music, Power, Purity, Innocense, Playfulness

> (watch some comedians) are all qualities of the Eighth Body. If we can

> have mastery of the Pranic Body, we can contain. It is something that

> just happens as a result of mastering the mind. For more elaboration on

> this go to www.3HO.org and plug in different birthdays to see what the

> script gives back or....... buy the Book (there are several).

>

> Sat Nam,

> Dharam

>

> satsangeetkaur wrote:

>

> > Greetings All...part 2!

> >

> >

> > Or maybe my question is...how does one master the Life force? (if it

> > is something outside of mastering consciousness?)

> >

> > So within Kundalini yoga, am I right to assume that one can master

> > just parts of it? To me that doesn't seem like mastery...because

> > there are still parts that are not mastered then...?

> >

> > ...But I realize with all of this I have a way of thinking "too big"

> > at times....I can see in order to master all...it's a process of

> > mastering all the parts first...and one has to be in the process

> > they are currently in...and there is not much point in looking too

> > far down the road, I guess!! Ha ha!

> >

> > So I think what I want to understand is...when someone has mastered

> > the life force...what does that look like in their day to day

> > experience... so that I can contrast that with how mastering

> > consciousness looks like, in order to have a deeper understanding.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Sat Sangeet

>

>

>

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One more point, once a person has had an experience of transcendence, it

is important to get busy sharing and serving and bringing others along.

Our cup overfloweth, remember? Besides, if a person just sits on a Gold

mine, what is that saying about idle hands?

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Thank you for your response Dharam....The thought that is emerging

for me now in light of these discussions, is that, mastery is perhaps relative

to a moment and one's capacity in that moment? I think this might be the

difference between exhibiting mastery and being a

Master?

Because I have not mastered consciousness...I don't know what

being a Master really means. I recognize masterful actions when

I see them? As in sometimes someone really has it"going on"

in one aspect of their life, but may fall down in another aspect. I

guess the moment you fully recognize yourself as God and you

act from that consciousness..is full mastery? So when we say

Yogi Bhajan is a Master......this is what we are recognizing?

 

I think your right in that, things get confusing when we try to think

of any of this in a linear fashion...because it's not. It seems to me

it's a constant jumping in and out, in terms of our perspective.

What I mean is...stand back and look at the whole of your being...

then dive into a specific area and work at it and polish it, until it

shines and from this perspective, it might appear as if you have

attained some mastery...but... then jump back out, to a grander perspective of

looking at the whole being again...and suddenly

relative to the rest of the being, that little corner of mastery, doesn't

look so masterful anymore! So very much, it depends on the perspective that

you hold?

 

And I guess anywhere within that process, one can fall down,

even though exhibiting mastery in some parts, one may still

have unconscious pockets within their being and acting from

these unconsciousness places...will create unconscious

actions.

 

The metaphor I have in my mind right now is...imagining a ladder

with many rungs...and instead of thinking we climb one step at

a time, fully leaving behind the previous step completely....rather

understanding that we master bits and peices of each rung over

the entire ladder...just because we hold real estate on the 12th

rung, in terms of mastery, doesn't mean we still

might not have alittle unpurchased or unmastered property down

on the 1st rung..or any rung for that matter?

 

So with this view I can see how one could have mastery in

some aspect, without having attained full mastery of their being

and act in an unconscious manner, because of that.

 

I wonder where the saying..."to fall from Grace" comes from? To

me, it implies that if you "fall" you will never rise again? Don't

we all fall from grace from moment to moment throughout our

day and our job is to "notice" and do what it takes to get

back up?

I wonder isn't Grace like Love...in that we just have to notice it's presence

and relate to it? I understand that grace is given...but

isn't it given in every moment and it's our capacity to recieve it

that varies, rather than whether God is passing some our way

or not?

 

At any rate...I think I can lay the mastery questions to

rest now! ha ha!

 

Sat Sangeet

P.S. Dharam..you defined a Latin word the other day...does that mean you know

Latin? If so...can you translate "verum" and "natum" for me? (or anyone else!)

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