Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Sat Nam, Hello, I am sort of new here. I was on this list a few years ago and was quite active here for awhile. Then I left, and I re-d about a month ago and have been lurking a bit. I have a question, so I suppose I will make a new introduction first. My name is Leslie, and my spiritual name is Guruchiter Kaur (one who holds the image of the Guru in her mind). I have been practicing kundalini yoga for 7 1/2 years- since I was 18. Many of those years- especially the early ones, were very intensive practice. I received teacher training from Siri Narayan Kaur Khalsa in Buffalo, NY, in 1996-97. I am married to Paul (the fellow who introduced me to KY) and have three daughters: Radha, age 6; Vrinda, almost 3; and Visakha, almost 1. We've moved around a lot, but I have managed to start up teaching classes at three of our previous locations. Wow, I guess I sound pretty busy. I stay at home and teach our children and do other stuff. We currently reside in Pennsylvania and are trying to buy a house. So, my question lies here... I know kundalini yoga is presented as being a practice that can be taken up by people of any religious affiliation. From the start I have used kundalini in my life in a very spiritual way. It has assisted me in many ways on my path. I feel that I should continue with its practice to assist me further. However, I am finding some difficulty in practicing daily from two traditions. My husband and I practice bhakti yoga (Hare Krishna). Now, kundalini yoga itself samples from the bhakti yoga tradition, so the two aren't as far from one another as they could be. Recently in my life I have been running into various examples of people who either had to choose between different paths or had that choice made seemingly for them. For example, a clairvoyant was told she should choose between that skill or being a healer. My own husband lost many of his skills of physical yoga, like his ability to control his senses and do various yogic stuff when he was basically converted to bhakti yoga by Krishna. My own yoga teacher has expressed that one must choose between the paths. Despite all of this I personally feel guided to continue practicing kundalini yoga along with my devotional practices. So, my question is are there devout Christians, Jews, Muslims, or Vaishnavas (etc) out there who actually practice kundalini yoga in addition to their other spiritual practices and how have they resolved the meeting of the two. I'm not really worried about myself. I get a feeling that everything will work out right if I stay sincere, but I thought this might be a good place to get some input on how others have dealt with the same issues. Sincerely, Love Always, Sat Siri Akal, Jaya Radhe, Guruchiter Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 You do indeed ask a very interesting question, and your life seems very interesting and exciting. I do not profess to be an authority on the issue you raise, but I have always thought about the "religion-different traditions" aspect very simply. A religion is a set of beliefs. However, yoga is not so much a set of beliefs as a set of experiences unique to each person, and taking each person along their evolutionary path toward the same common goal for everyone. Also, even though the different yogas (Hatha yoga, Kundalini Yoga, Bhakti Yoga, Raja Yoga, Jnana Yoga, Karma Yoga) may have some different starting points, the goal for all is the same, and the paths for each have many commonalities. I am not sure what others would have to say, however, I have never encountered or felt that practising yoga in any form meant having to give up/abandon or even think differently about the religion one had grown up with. It seemed like yoga was much more inclusive and accomodating. You say you have trouble practising from two different traditions, and you do not elaborate on exactly how, but perhaps whichever appeals more to you is the way to go? Or both if that is what you want? In the case of choosing between being a clairvoyant and a healer, that is slightly different, since there one has to choose between which skills to develop and refine more. I have friends who are Jews and practice both kundalini yoga and Bhakti yoga and in addition reiki. I have friends who are Christians and avid Buddhists.... I think you really answered your question when you said, "I get a feeling that everything will work out right if I stay sincere".Sat NamL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Hello Leslie, I do completely understand where you're coming from. I'm a Muslim and i had to think about the ways i can juggle my Faith and Beliefs with KY. I think from my own experiences that KY can be used as a technology to enhance whatever kind of belief system / religion you might already have, and it doesn't have to contradict and conflict. Having said that, i do occasionally have to make a choice. I do not hesitate to recline from doing Mantras that contradict with what i believe, I sometimes go further and replace the mantras with similar Vibratory Sacred Verses from my own belief system. I believe that every person has his own (Built-In) Guru, that is constantly giving advice and never stops. We just have to calm down, stop thinking and try to hear his faint cries of advice that echo's back from a relative Future. I do not integrate anything (That others would call belief) into me, until after i am completely convinced by it and it makes sense to me. Once that is established my goal becomes experiencing it which makes it knowledge and not just a belief. When you know something, you cannot doubt it or else you wouldn't know it to begin with. But a Belief could be right or wrong. I guess what i'm trying to say is that i try to understand my beliefs until (I experience them) until they become a knowledge. I also try to always keep it in my mind that everyday things i take for knowledge are really nothing more than beliefs. I hope that i haven't strayed to far away from the subject by trying to explain and share my point of view. Peace -Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 Al:Your message was extremely nice. I too look around many times and wonder why we accept many of the everyday things even though they make no sense to us, and furthermore, we do not give a second thought to the fact, that we are indeed buying into the "belief system" of many ordinary (meetings that go on for more than 2 hours with nothing accomplished) and not so ordinary things (death penalty, war, etc); however, when it comes to the most important part of our lives, our spiritual evolution, we wonder whether we are doing wrong to the belief system we grew up with. There are always ways to be fair to yourself first and foremost and then to everything that you yourself truly believe and care about.Sat NamLyn Al <alladinito wrote:But a Belief could be right or wrong. I hope that i haven't strayed to far away from the subject by trying to explain and share my point of view. The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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