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Sat Nam All...

 

I asked my teacher the other day...what is a yogi's relationship

with pain. I was wondering how you can be in pain, but not become

the pain and feel overcome by it. He gave me an answer. I also

remember being in a class with Gurmukh, where she would say to us

often...pain is just a sensation..."pain" is just a way we choose to

think about a sensation we are experiencing. It's a label we put on

it...a judgement as good or bad.

 

This morning as I sat down to meditate, I was in physical pain. I

had been all night...I finally fell asleep after a short burst of

tears, at the frustration I was feeling, at not being able to simply

let this pain be and have this experience, without loosing my

center. After a few tears the pain eased a little and I was able to

fall alseep.

 

As I sat down to meditate...I usually have quite a bit to say to

God, in terms of what I want in this moment to move forward....but

today, as the pain increased I found myself short on words. I

simply asked...."bless me, please...I don't know what I

need"...basically...I surrender.

 

I tuned in and the message was japji...28th Pauri...I opened my book

and began to chant...when I came to the line..."adays tisai

adays...aad aneel anad anahat...jug jug ayko vays"...I was overcome

with emotion and I began to cry.

 

It wasn't a, I'm in pain cry, though....it was like my Winter

Solstice, crying through Sadhana, cry....because I am so wholey

touched by the effect of this shabad on my being.

 

I am in awe...the intensity of the beauty I am experiencing in this

moment is unspeakable. The pain begins to release as I continue to

chant the shabad over and over again...the tears are flowing out of

me as if a faucet was turned on....my heart feels like a flood gate

opening and as it opens the intensity of the rapture escalates...the

tears come harder and harder....I continue on to other pauri's I

have been working with...chanting and chanting...and I see an image

and feel it as well...it's as if I am a child and I am being held in

the bosom of the greatest mother of all...my arcline is is merging

with that of the mother across her chest...and I just remember

hearing some words like...surrender your pain and be comforted by

the shabd...

 

....Then I put on Ram Ma Da Sa Sa Se So Hung...by GuruDass kaur and

Singh (Circle of Light) and lay down for some deep relaxation...and

once again I feel as if I am the instrument and the music vibrates

through me with every note.....the experience continues on and on.

 

Well... the tears finally subsided and I was left with a feeling of

having been completely humbled. I felt completely powerless, as in,

only you, God, completely in awe of what I had experienced....and at

the same time never felt so empowered and whole, before....being

powerless in the face of God..is completely an empowering

experience??

 

 

Later in the day as I was working...I was experiencing pain

again...but this time I had a different relationship to it....

 

I was massaging and listening to the CD Circle of Light (GuruDass)

the title track and I was getting totally into it, at the same time

I was experiencing this pain increasing...until finally I realized,

I was both in physical pain and ecstasy at the same moment!

Thinking to myself this is strange...how can I have both,

simultaneously?

 

So I guess the moral of this story is....YUP!....pain is just a

sensation!! Ha ha ha!

 

 

This experience actually clears something up for me...I remember

watching Oprah once and this woman was saying that she had

experienced an orgasmic birth...and I rememeber thinking at the

time...if I ever give birth...that's the kind I would like to have!!

(Who wouldn't!!) But everyone I have ever mentioned this too, has

quickly told me there is no chance, that an orgasmic birth is

possible. Well... with this new information, that ones' physical

body can be suffering and in pain....YET some other part of your

being is experiencing ecstasy...clears the pathway for this

possibility, to in fact, be true!!

 

The answer my teacher gave me was in keeping with these findings.

He had said that you realize your being isn't suffering, but that

your physical body is in fact suffering and then the need to respond

to it compassionately.

 

But funny enough...he never mentioned anything about orgasms and

ecstasy??

 

Be in the Light,

Sat Sangeet Kaur

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Orgasmic births can and do occur. More information can be found especially in

the literature of Stanislav Grof,M.D., Ph.D. These sources are not specifically

in the Kundalini tradition, but Stan Grof's work dovetails nicely with the

Kundalini Shakti model which he acknowledges. You may find more information

regarding this in Grof's books.

 

In Love,

Buddy Carl Pounds

 

satsangeetkaur <satsangeetkaur wrote:

 

Sat Nam All...

 

I asked my teacher the other day...what is a yogi's relationship

with pain. I was wondering how you can be in pain, but not become

the pain and feel overcome by it. He gave me an answer. I also

remember being in a class with Gurmukh, where she would say to us

often...pain is just a sensation..."pain" is just a way we choose to

think about a sensation we are experiencing. It's a label we put on

it...a judgement as good or bad.

 

This morning as I sat down to meditate, I was in physical pain. I

had been all night...I finally fell asleep after a short burst of

tears, at the frustration I was feeling, at not being able to simply

let this pain be and have this experience, without loosing my

center. After a few tears the pain eased a little and I was able to

fall alseep.

 

As I sat down to meditate...I usually have quite a bit to say to

God, in terms of what I want in this moment to move forward....but

today, as the pain increased I found myself short on words. I

simply asked...."bless me, please...I don't know what I

need"...basically...I surrender.

 

I tuned in and the message was japji...28th Pauri...I opened my book

and began to chant...when I came to the line..."adays tisai

adays...aad aneel anad anahat...jug jug ayko vays"...I was overcome

with emotion and I began to cry.

 

It wasn't a, I'm in pain cry, though....it was like my Winter

Solstice, crying through Sadhana, cry....because I am so wholey

touched by the effect of this shabad on my being.

 

I am in awe...the intensity of the beauty I am experiencing in this

moment is unspeakable. The pain begins to release as I continue to

chant the shabad over and over again...the tears are flowing out of

me as if a faucet was turned on....my heart feels like a flood gate

opening and as it opens the intensity of the rapture escalates...the

tears come harder and harder....I continue on to other pauri's I

have been working with...chanting and chanting...and I see an image

and feel it as well...it's as if I am a child and I am being held in

the bosom of the greatest mother of all...my arcline is is merging

with that of the mother across her chest...and I just remember

hearing some words like...surrender your pain and be comforted by

the shabd...

 

....Then I put on Ram Ma Da Sa Sa Se So Hung...by GuruDass kaur and

Singh (Circle of Light) and lay down for some deep relaxation...and

once again I feel as if I am the instrument and the music vibrates

through me with every note.....the experience continues on and on.

 

Well... the tears finally subsided and I was left with a feeling of

having been completely humbled. I felt completely powerless, as in,

only you, God, completely in awe of what I had experienced....and at

the same time never felt so empowered and whole, before....being

powerless in the face of God..is completely an empowering

experience??

 

 

Later in the day as I was working...I was experiencing pain

again...but this time I had a different relationship to it....

 

I was massaging and listening to the CD Circle of Light (GuruDass)

the title track and I was getting totally into it, at the same time

I was experiencing this pain increasing...until finally I realized,

I was both in physical pain and ecstasy at the same moment!

Thinking to myself this is strange...how can I have both,

simultaneously?

 

So I guess the moral of this story is....YUP!....pain is just a

sensation!! Ha ha ha!

 

 

This experience actually clears something up for me...I remember

watching Oprah once and this woman was saying that she had

experienced an orgasmic birth...and I rememeber thinking at the

time...if I ever give birth...that's the kind I would like to have!!

(Who wouldn't!!) But everyone I have ever mentioned this too, has

quickly told me there is no chance, that an orgasmic birth is

possible. Well... with this new information, that ones' physical

body can be suffering and in pain....YET some other part of your

being is experiencing ecstasy...clears the pathway for this

possibility, to in fact, be true!!

 

The answer my teacher gave me was in keeping with these findings.

He had said that you realize your being isn't suffering, but that

your physical body is in fact suffering and then the need to respond

to it compassionately.

 

But funny enough...he never mentioned anything about orgasms and

ecstasy??

 

Be in the Light,

Sat Sangeet Kaur

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I presume you are meaning the 3oth pauri. The salutation to God

during periods of distress is like giving yourself over to God,

surrendering your self to Self. If you understand that you will

understand where all pain really comes from.

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It actually was the 28th pauri I was chanting??

 

....but now having looked at the 30th...I can see how the translation of it fits

more with the experience that I had. I guess you get what you need...no matter

what it is that you asked for?

 

SSK

 

 

 

 

 

 

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