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I know this has been mentioned here on the list before but I couldn't find

it in the archives. Does any one know when it is believed the soul enters

the body?

 

Sat Nam,

RaMa Kaur

 

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"Amanda Hamm" <MandyPan97

<Kundaliniyoga>

Tuesday, October 21, 2003 2:25 PM

Kundalini Yoga soul enters the body?

 

 

> I know this has been mentioned here on the list before but I couldn't find

> it in the archives. Does any one know when it is believed the soul enters

> the body?

>

> Sat Nam,

> RaMa Kaur

 

Some call it the 'quickening'. About half way through gestation. You can

calculate it with a astrological chart. Soul. Isn't that a western word.

Shouldn't it be called 'consciousness'. At the moment f death a new

consciousness arises from the old. But it isn't the previous consciousness.

If understanding of emptiness and the true self isn't there then the new

consciousness links to the old one. It is a false view of the transitory

collection, or false self that causes our pain. It is what leads to the

faults of birth, death, sickness, and aging. All which can be avoided. The

"self" desires. It wants to experience. So it incarnates.

 

Bill

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RaMa Kaur,

The Soul enter the body on the 120 day of pregnancy.

Yogiji says that this is God's way of providing "Planned Parenthood".

That the status of the woman must not be compromised for some abstract

agenda. That if she is not mentally, emotionally, spiritually and

financially ready, then there is no good reason to go ahead with a

pregnancy. She has 120 days to decide.

Additionally, up to that point, knowledge of the pregnancy is protected

information. On the 120 day there is a celebration. This is the custom

in a number of cultures.

Sat Nam,

Dharam Singh

P.S. I don't remember this being discussed before.

 

Amanda Hamm wrote:

 

> I know this has been mentioned here on the list before but I couldn't

> find

> it in the archives. Does any one know when it is believed the soul

> enters

> the body?

>

> Sat Nam,

> RaMa Kaur

>

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Sat Nam Rama Kaur,

 

There are several views on this, depending on the spiritual path. According to

Buddhism, the dharma I follow, the 'consciousness' establishes itself in a

fertilized egg. In other words, the new life begins at the time of conception.

 

 

Amanda Hamm [MandyPan97]

Tuesday, October 21, 2003 2:26 PM

Kundaliniyoga

Kundalini Yoga soul enters the body?

 

 

I know this has been mentioned here on the list before but I couldn't find

it in the archives. Does any one know when it is believed the soul enters

the body?

 

Sat Nam,

RaMa Kaur

 

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Hi RaMa Kaur,

"What is the secret to keeping up? You must let the psyche move through

the meridians. Whether you are tired or not, you have energy or you do

not, you are sick or healthy - these things are like the rain and the

clouds, hot weather and cold, winter, fall - a part of life. But if you

let your own energy flow through you, you will be all right."

You certainly wont have any desire to put a glaze on your Third Eye with

any psychotropic substances.

Thanks also for the side note about the clairvoyant. This is a great

example of how the Rishis can come up with a 120th day figure.

This also jibes with some info regarding how we deal with death. As

Sikhs we chant Akal when a person dies to help the Soul along on it's

journey but we don't chant Akal when an insect is killed. Yogiji has

said that since the Soul is not attached to the body at the level of

insect existence, a "Sat Nam" is sufficient.

 

Very interesting.

Sat Nam,

Dharam Singh

 

mandypan97 wrote:

 

>

>

> On a side note, a clarvoiyant I know says that she sees a little

> cluster of light what she perceives to be a soul in the energy field

> of a pregnant woman and in about the 5th month it goes inside. She

> has also said that sometimes souls select their parents before

> conception and just hang out in their energy fields until there is a

> body for them to enter.

>

> Thanks again,

> RaMa Kuar

 

 

 

 

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Thanks for the words of encouragement Dharam. I had to think about

this for a little bit.

 

> "What is the secret to keeping up? You must let the psyche move

through

> the meridians. Whether you are tired or not, you have energy or you

do

> not, you are sick or healthy - these things are like the rain and

the

> clouds, hot weather and cold, winter, fall - a part of life. But if

you

> let your own energy flow through you, you will be all right."

> You certainly wont have any desire to put a glaze on your Third Eye

with

> any psychotropic substances.

 

So what you're saying is to just go with the flow and don't get

stuck. Be aware of the rocks in the stream but don't cling to them.

Have the feeling but don't dwell on them. Is that right?

 

SatNam!

RaMa Kaur

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Hey RaMa, Kaur

The quote is from Yogi Bhajan, I was sharing it with you. I will

resonate with you in a place that you can hear it. For me, I know I get

myself into trouble when I am not in my flow....when I can't feel "the

Love" (with a capital L)....when I have no containment, contentment and

continuity. If I begin a course action from a limited place, perhaps

angry, fearful or frustrated place, chances are I will incur some Karma

and create more congestion (Ama) that I will have to clear up at some

later date. It is much better to begin an activity/your day from a

potent, neutral space. Fully aware and open to one's vastness.

Bad trips/mornings usually don't just get better by themselves.

Yoga is about getting over our Inertia.

Sat Nam,

Dharam Singh

 

Some more info on meridians below.

http://www.sahej.com/meridians.html

http://www.sahej.com/organ_emotion.html

 

 

 

mandypan97 wrote:

 

> Thanks for the words of encouragement Dharam. I had to think about

> this for a little bit.

>

> > "What is the secret to keeping up? You must let the psyche move

> through

> > the meridians. Whether you are tired or not, you have energy or you

> do

> > not, you are sick or healthy - these things are like the rain and

> the

> > clouds, hot weather and cold, winter, fall - a part of life. But if

> you

> > let your own energy flow through you, you will be all right."

> > You certainly wont have any desire to put a glaze on your Third Eye

> with

> > any psychotropic substances.

>

> So what you're saying is to just go with the flow and don't get

> stuck. Be aware of the rocks in the stream but don't cling to them.

> Have the feeling but don't dwell on them. Is that right?

>

> SatNam!

> RaMa Kaur

>

>

 

 

 

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Thanks Dharam and Stacy for your words of support and being there

with me. I have really been feeling pretty strong lately. I have

been afraid to say so cause everytime I acknowledge how well I think

I'm doing at something I screw up. I don't think I'm going back this

time though, I just haven't even enjoyed the last few times I've got

stoned at all, it completely zapped my motivation and made me feel

like a wet sack of flour for days. It also made my brain feel like

it was going to short circuit, scary sensation. I think its been

close to a month since I've done any and things are going really

well, my motivation is building daily. The real test will be if I'm

offered any when I'm feeling that desire, I have been able to talk

myself out of seeking any. I feel strongly that I will be able to

just say no though. Thanks again and know that I'm there for you

when you need it:)

 

Sat Nam,

RaMa Kuar

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