Guest guest Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 For about a year and a half I expanded my practice and taught yoga at a local gym. My curriculum was based just on what I know and what I had to offer. There came a point where I was teaching more than learning and eventually my well ran dry. I felt that if my personal practice was failing, then I wasn't doing my students any good. Financial problems forced me to take another job, which will eventually afford me the opportunity to pay for my certification in yoga instruction. I'm very comfortable with my path, but... Some of my students are coming into my place of employment and begging me to come back. They are also sending me emails with much melodrama. It seems the more I try to explain, the more they just don't understand. I feel like I've failed as a teacher in that they cannot stop thinking of themselves and consider my present plight. They are not practicing on their own and feel as if I abandoned them. For months I told them that I was eventually going to have to leave. Can anyone suggest how I handle this situation? Am I the selfish one? Should I continue to teach, even if I feel like it isn't doing anyone any good? Some words of encouragement or even a good scolding would do right now, I just don't know if I'm right or wrong. Thank you for any input. namaste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 Dear Soul, Your email really touched my heart, I'm sure many teacher's onlist will have advice to offer. "There came a point where I was teaching more than learning and eventually my well ran dry. I felt that if my personal practice was failing, then I wasn't doing my students any good." I too am a teacher.. and have *nearly* given up teaching classes on several occasions... doubting whether my own sporadic practice 'entitled' me to teach. Doubting whether yoga is even the path for me, yet still teaching... doubting whether my students were *getting* anything from my classes since my own life seemed to be in such a mess. There's no doubt that regular personal practice is what will enrich your lessons and give you a substance and depth that you can share with your students. However don't feel bad if you are going through challenges or *lazy* spots with your own practice. Just be authentic. Be honest with yourself. And as much as you can be authentic with your students. I once asked my learned teacher, how can I teach, when I know nothing? When I've no real experience. He told me that when I was feeling doubtful, before I go in to teach a class, to remember one of my personal strengths (in my case being authentic) and tune in knowing you have that strength to share.. and trust that the rest will come. I continually have to deeply hand it over to the higher power before I teach a class... and I know that's what we're *supposed* to do anyway... but I think that's really the only way. Know where your strengths lie, whether it be your honesty, your kindness, you empathy.. and bring that to mind. Be real, then you can relax into your Self. You don't have to be anything else. My own practice changes as I do. At the moment, I realised that the main thing I need to do is Left Nostril breathing... so that's all I'm doing right now.. and that's fine. Don't feel pressured by thinking about what you *ought* to be doing, feeling or thinking. Just look inside and allow yourself space to be yourself... and everything else will flow. I remember a while back... I had a lot of resistance to my KY pratice, I would wake up in the morning and it would feel like I was fighting my way through a thorn bush doing every exercise. It took me well over a year to admit to myself that something was not working.. as I thought, no I *should* be able to do my kriyas, this is what I'm *supposed* to be doing... and I pushed the fact that it wasn't working for me.. to the sides of my awareness. That is I ignored my feelings. Needless to say, it all blew up in my face one day and I crashed realising that I had been ignoring my inner feelings for a long time. Too much masculine drive and intellectualness and not enough feminine receptivity and feeling. So I stopped everything, quit my Level 2 teacher's training course that I was doing at the time, stopped my practice. And for several months did nothing and became really depressed, doubting whether I would *ever* find a path that I jived with. Slowly, a feeling started to bubble up in me that all I wanted to do was be myself. And the blockages and struggle I had been feeling had been coming from trying to be a perfect yogi. I started doing some simple mindfulness meditations, just becoming aware of body sensations, and breath.. and pretty soon was feeling better again (and eventually rejoined my Level 2 course). Becuase I'd given myself *permission* to feel what I was feeling, and not *judge* it.. and in that moment do what I *needed* to do for myself rather than what I thought I *ought* (i.e. someone else's opinion) to be doing. Now I'm gradually starting to enjoy my practice again, KY and mindfulness meditation.. and have realised that I needed to re-evaluate why I do my practice.. i.e. is this actually helping me to feel better? For me, it was a matter of bringing things in to balance. Helping myself find things that were more calming and grounding.. as well as the KY which can sometimes be too stimulating for me. Throughout all of the above I continued teaching.. and dispite my own personal story and drama, my students continued to benefit from the teachings. I guess I may have rambled a bit, partially because I'm on my way out the door for the weekend, but I picked up in your email that you're struggling.. feeling like you *ought* not to feel the way you do. Acceptance is first...don't feel guilty but instead let yourself feel what you are feeling.. and you'll open up new spaces inside yourself to be able to understand why things are going the way they are. I know there are many points in your email that I haven't touched upon, perhaps others can help more with those. I wish you all the best... blessing of authentic being and love to you. Krishan Shiva Kaur x - "Mary Kathryn" <yogaonthego <Kundaliniyoga> Friday, November 07, 2003 3:36 AM Kundalini Yoga I had to stop teaching, now my students are stalking me... > For about a year and a half I expanded my practice and taught yoga at > a local gym. My curriculum was based just on what I know and what I > had to offer. There came a point where I was teaching more than > learning and eventually my well ran dry. I felt that if my personal > practice was failing, then I wasn't doing my students any good. > Financial problems forced me to take another job, which will > eventually afford me the opportunity to pay for my certification in > yoga instruction. I'm very comfortable with my path, but... > > Some of my students are coming into my place of employment and > begging me to come back. They are also sending me emails with much > melodrama. It seems the more I try to explain, the more they just > don't understand. I feel like I've failed as a teacher in that they > cannot stop thinking of themselves and consider my present plight. > They are not practicing on their own and feel as if I abandoned > them. For months I told them that I was eventually going to have to > leave. > > Can anyone suggest how I handle this situation? Am I the selfish > one? Should I continue to teach, even if I feel like it isn't doing > anyone any good? Some words of encouragement or even a good scolding > would do right now, I just don't know if I'm right or wrong. > > Thank you for any input. > > namaste. > > > > > "OUR DESTINY IS TO BE HAPPY" - Yogi Bhajan > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, please send a blank email to > Kundaliniyoga > NO UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS TO THE LIST PLEASE!> > > WEB SITE: kundalini yoga > > KUNDALINI YOGA ON-LINE TRAINING. 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Guest guest Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 Sat Nam... That was a very beautiful and inspired response that Krishan Shiva Kaur gave....thank you, you inspired me as well! ha Ha! Mary Kathryn ....I'll offer a perspective from the angle of healing... You could view all of your students as different aspects of yourself. What they have to say to you and how they interact with you...is some reflection of what is going on within your own psyche. We all have many "people" within us and they all have says in our thoughts and actions, until we can consciously look at them and begin to integrate those parts of ourselves...let the crap go and keep the rest! I think focusing on..."am I right or wrong"?? Is ultimately...a road leading nowhere....but if you take that out of the equation and just begin to look at the messages that the students are giving you...and it might not be what they are saying..it might just be how you feel when they say it, that is the message.....and begin to work with those feelings and emotions that you are experiencing....rather than looking at it as a problem between me and them...just relax them from the equation and bring it inside and work with it from the point of view of... this is a reflection of my internal landscape...and now what do I need to work on in order to experience some peace around this? When we work with something at the level of manifestation we will never see results that stick. ie. These students are not happy with this decision I made so...if they would stop hassling me...I would feel okay then. (This is from the point of view that the problem/challenge resides outside of myself...and the cure comes from the external world). But through continuing a spiritual practice we come to understand that the entire world is within us and all of our enviroments are really a reflection of what is happening within us...so to find the cure or transformation... we need to work at a deeper level, which would be the emotions and thoughts within us that produce our current circumstances. In this way we find a cure from within. The thought that I am having, is that you are "waiting"..saving money etc. so that you can take this certification course and increase your understanding etc...but the enviroment is sending you a message, that transformation starts right here, right now...you don't have to "wait" to have this experience of growth you are looking for...your current life situation *is* your schoolground....if you get the money to go and get some training great...but if you don't, it doesn't stop or limit your ability to continue growing inspite of that. More training, doesn't do squat...it's the *practice* of the training that transforms. Putting the teachings into practice...and there are a million books around that lay out the teachings....and spend time with people who "light your fire"...spirituality is contagious! Blessings, Sat Sangeet kaur Post your free ad now! Canada Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 Sat Nam I sometimes feel concerned with interactions between myself and the clients who are coming to me. I found this answer to another's problem helpful and insightful, thank you. Vanessa JM Buck Stress Manager 79 Tollers Lane Coulsdon Surrey CR5 1BF Appts/Home: 01737 551558 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 Krishan Shiva Kaur...krishanshivakaur And, as a ripple effect, your email to Mary Kathryn really touched my Heart. I am not a teacher...but I am a student longing to learn. I read somewhere that "when the student is ready, the Teacher will show up." Well, perhaps the opposite is also true that "when the Teacher is ready, the student will show up...and insist to receive the teachings" No matter how little or how much knowledge you feel you have to share, by all means please, share it. For instance...simply reading your comments about being authentic, and tuning in on one personal strenght was a great lesson learned for me today. My heartfelt gratitude and blessings go to all the teachers...with a special thought of encouragement for Mary Kathryn. Humbly... Francine Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Thank YOu SAT Sangeet, I really needed this message although I come across the jest of it so many times I am finding it hard to stick to it and work at that the level . I find I still react profusely to the external circumstances. I think there is a hard balance between coping up with external circumstances and health going hand in hand. Is this right? Can we still achieve peace with pain radiating based on circumstances... I dont know when I will get to the phase of staying myself at PEACE irrespective of circumstances..? Oh! I am really longing for it. Please bless me. Akkama Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard http://antispam./whatsnewfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Sat Nam! Thanks for the heart-felt answers to this request for help. We all need help and your students are asking you for help too. I felt that if my personal practice was failing, then I wasn't doing my students any good. * But your students are telling you that you were doing them a lot of good. So listen to them. At least hear what they have to say and don't invalidate them. When you have empathy for them, they can have empathy for you. (Read Don't Be Nice, Be Real by Kelly Bryson available on www.yogatech.com Financial problems forced me to take another job, which will eventually afford me the opportunity to pay for my certification in yoga instruction. * This is a legitimate reason -- the need to take care of yourself financially. So that is part of your being honest with yourself. Could you have one class a week at another location where the students paid you directly? In fact, ask them to find it for you and organize it. You will be glad to show up That offer will prove who really is willing back to get the value you have to offer. Just an idea so that both of you get your needs met. I know the pay at gyms is very small and no way to earn a real living. I also know that sometimes students only attend the classes at the gyms because they do not have to pay for them. So find out their real commitment. They find the place and pay you directly and you will teach one or maybe two classes a week. If they follow through, great. You both get your needs met. If not, well, another drama played to the end. I'm very comfortable with my path, but... * Keep listening to yourself. But I do hear two different stories. Some of my students are coming into my place of employment and begging me to come back. * At least accept the complement. They are also sending me emails with much melodrama. It seems the more I try to explain, the more they just don't understand. * You both need to understand the needs of each other. I feel like I've failed as a teacher in that they cannot stop thinking of themselves and consider my present plight. * We all think of ourselves. The trick is to be honest and think of of ourseves in a loving way. And also to be honest so we can get our needs met without being dependent and sneaky or by making excuses. They are not practicing on their own and feel as if I abandoned them. * Co-dependency at its best. :+) For months I told them that I was eventually going to have to leave. Can anyone suggest how I handle this situation? Am I the selfish one? Should I continue to teach, even if I feel like it isn't doing anyone any good? * You are mixing things up here. One, you say that it is not working for you financially and two, you say you don't feel adequate as a teacher. Don't use one to justify the other. Some words of encouragement or even a good scolding would do right now, I just don't know if I'm right or wrong. * Right and wrong never solves any problem. Maybe there is a way to meet both needs. Maybe by teaching one or two classes a week you can meet their needs and give yourself time for your other job that you need to meet your own financial needs. Sat Nam, Gururattan Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 You and me both Akkama!! I long for peace in every moment. I was just reading something where someone gave a definition of happiness as being based on external conditions, where as peace was an experience that was based on nothing but pure beingness. The soul never suffers...so if we are suffering in our experience, it's because we are identifying with something besides our true nature/beingness/soul. In other words Ego. Everyone struggles with this, I would imagine Akkama....we can't expect to be masterful at something until we have "learned" how to do it. So in the process of learning how to do something, we fail and succeed, fail and succeed (if those are words we'd like to use)..until we fully learn the skill. We just have to stay as present as we can in every moment...and if we fail then begin again when we notice that we have lost our presence. Just remember that everytime you muster some presence and become conscious within a situation...you naturally begin to transform the moment...so you move closer towards that which you long for....peace within and without. Blessings to all, Sat Sangeet Post your free ad now! Canada Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 Dear Mary, Sat Nam. I think that the universe is calling you to come back and it's using your students' voices. If there was nothing else you had to give anymore, nobody would look for you after you left. But it seems that your students need you and they are calling you back. You know deep in your heart what you really want to do but it's pretty clear to me that there are some people out there who see you as THEIR TEACHER...so that should answer your question of whether you have anything to give them or not. This is so touching what they do...it sounds like it comes straight from their heart. Congratulations you must be an excellent yoga teacher. Love and Light Sat Atma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Sat Nam, Ji, In my opinion, it is always a huge mistake to stop teaching. I know from firsthand experience, because I've stopped teaching a few times in the past, always with bad results. For one thing, when a teacher stops teaching, the students invariably feel that the teacher is letting them down, and they are right! More importantly, when a teacher stops teaching, not only is he letting his students down, he is letting himself down. To master something, you must teach it. Teaching in and of itself forces the teacher to continue to learn. In class, I always have next to me my briefcase full of past issues of Aquarian Times magazine, as well as various Kundalini Yoga books and manuals. While my students are exercising or relaxing, I am frequently leafing through materials, looking for new things to say that are pertinent to that particular class. Even more importantly, teaching constantly forces us to confront our own imperfections and failings, many of which we would otherwise gloss over. For example, last week I taught a couple of classes on the Navel Chakra. The things that I said in class motivated me to get back into practicing stretch pose on a daily basis. Although I have been doing a lot of Sat Kriya the last few years, I have not been consistent with stretch pose; therefore, I am very grateful that something got me back into it. While Sat Kriya is definitely the most important thing in my life, doing stretch pose every day makes me feel even immeasurably so much more uplifted! In the past, I have found that, when I stop teaching, I start to become a real nuisance in conversations. Yogi Bhajan said that if we don't teach, all of the undispensed knowledge bottled up inside of us makes us puff up like toads, and we start trying to lecture and teach in situations when it's not appropriate. I know there have been times when, during casual conversations, everyone in the room got to the point where they just wanted me to shut up. Anyway, typing this response has given me the energy to go and do some of my daily Sat Kriya, instead of taking a nap like I was planning on before I saw your email, so thank you very much for the inspiration you unintentionally have given me. Please start teaching again as soon as possible. The world needs us to teach, and it needs us to teach now. There is no time to waste. Sat Nam. Keep up, and keep in touch. S.S. Swami Dev Singh Khalsa jaapsahib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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