Guest guest Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Sat Nam, I have a question that has been with me for a couple of years now & I have yet to be able to find a source to help me understand this, so I am hoping by putting it out there that someone may know the answer to this...I was told that in Kundalini we do not chant "OM" by itself...& the explanaition was that if we did, we would loose everything...I had/have not heard of this,can anyone else explain? bright blessings,Jeannette Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 I've not heard this. What is it that you were told you would lose? Sat Nam, Krishan Shiva Kaur - "wolfsister harmony" <wolfsister_harmony <Kundaliniyoga> Tuesday, March 02, 2004 4:40 PM Re: Kundalini Yoga OM by itself... > > > Sat Nam, > I have a question that has been with me for a couple > of years now & I have yet to be able to find a source > to help me understand this, so I am hoping by putting > it out there that someone may know the answer to > this...I was told that in Kundalini we do not chant > "OM" by itself...& the explanaition was that if we > did, we would loose everything...I had/have not heard > of this,can anyone else explain? > bright blessings,Jeannette > > > > Search - Find what you're looking for faster > http://search. > > > > Kundalini Yoga - for the best online selection of Books, Videos and DVDs on Kundalini Yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan. Also a great range of beautiful Meditation and Mantra CDs, all with RealAudio sound clips. > - visit > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Well...this may not be the technical answer, but here goes... If when you chant a mantra and master it, you begin to embody the consciousness that it resonates with....then when you chant Om, by itself, you would be embodying the unmanifest....Om is the sound before creation was created...when chanted as AAA-OOO--UUM it means "come thou into the form of life", which is something we do in Ky as well as chant Ong. We are "the creation" or the manifest (not the unmanifest).....so to become Unmanifest (embody it) would be counterproductive in our world because we need to be in the world, in the creation acting? Does that make any sense to you? Sat Sangeet Post your free ad now! Canada Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Hi I experienced Om as grounding after a meditation session which is very uplifting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 Sat Nam Sat Sangeet, Jeanette This is an interesting question to explore... I have been meditating on it. In essence Om and Ong are One. OM is in Ong and Ong is in OM. And yet, they hold different energies for us to experience when chanting. As a way to symbolise those different energies... you could say that Om returns us to our source, I think of it as upward, and Ong draws our essential source into our manifest life creative expression, more of a downwards direction. I use the idea of directions as a symbol to help understand the difference of impact the energy of the mantras holds. However, the idea that you would 'loose everything' if you chant Om, still doesn't resonate with me at all. It has an element of fear in it. Any further thoughts? Sat Nam, Krishan Shiva Kaur Hampshire, England - "Sat Sangeet" <satsangeetkaur <Kundaliniyoga> Sunday, March 07, 2004 8:56 PM Re: Kundalini Yoga OM by itself... > Well...this may not be the technical answer, but here goes... > > If when you chant a mantra and master it, you begin to embody the consciousness that it resonates with....then when you chant Om, by itself, you would be embodying the unmanifest....Om is the sound before creation was created...when chanted as AAA-OOO--UUM it means "come thou into the form of life", which is something we do in Ky as well as chant Ong. We are "the creation" or the manifest (not the unmanifest).....so to become Unmanifest (embody it) would be counterproductive in our world because we need to be in the world, in the creation acting? Does that make any sense to you? > > Sat Sangeet > > > > > > Post your free ad now! Canada Personals > > > > > > > Kundalini Yoga - for the best online selection of Books, Videos and DVDs on Kundalini Yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan. Also a great range of beautiful Meditation and Mantra CDs, all with RealAudio sound clips. > - visit > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 Sat Nam! Gururattan covered this question in her book - "Love It with all Your Heart" - available from www.yogatech.com Gordon - Krishan Shiva Kaur Sat Nam Sat Sangeet, Jeanette This is an interesting question to explore... I have been meditating on it. In essence Om and Ong are One. OM is in Ong and Ong is in OM. And yet, they hold different energies for us to experience when chanting. As a way to symbolise those different energies... you could say that Om returns us to our source, I think of it as upward, and Ong draws our essential source into our manifest life creative expression, more of a downwards direction. I use the idea of directions as a symbol to help understand the difference of impact the energy of the mantras holds. However, the idea that you would 'loose everything' if you chant Om, still doesn't resonate with me at all. It has an element of fear in it. Any further thoughts? Sat Nam, Krishan Shiva Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 Sat Nam Krishan Shiva... Yes that's a beautiful description....I would agree with it. I think the sentence "lose everything".....probably comes from from not recognizing the Source (that there in fact is one, that we can return to).............when you die, if you have no concept of the Source, your perception would be that you 'lose everything'.....when that is not the case at all....but from a constricted perpective it may seem that way. So if chanting Om takes you to the Source, you would become unmanifest.....being unmanifest to the ego's point of view...is definetly losing everything! ha ha! As you have said...I believe it is the process of coming to know the Source through experience of it...then bringing that knowledge back into the creation and living it. "Bringing heaven to earth". I believe the vibration of "ong" more strongly supports this process of bringing down the light....which is a process in this time and space that we are all really trying hard to flow with and be able to embody the light (the Source)....bring it consciously into the manifest. Thank you for sharing your insights and helping us to experience clarity, All Light, Sat Sangeet kaur Post your free ad now! Canada Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 Sat Nam Krishan Shiva, I think you put it very well in words, the different energy of OM and ONG. A further thought would be that Om contains Ong in it, as Om is infinity in its unmanifested form, where everything can be created from, but nothing has been created yet. Ong is the creative manifestation of infinity. Ong has 'nerve' just like kundalini is the 'nerve' of the soul. It really makes sense why we use this mantra in kundalini yoga. We choose, Ong because we want to bring all this energy to life, here on earth...and its society. However, to say that Om would make you 'loose everything' is a bit off! After all, Om has been the essential mantra of the yogic tradition, for thousands of years, by denying its energy it's like denying the essence of yoga...which by the way means Union...union with the infinite source. Love to All Sat Atma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 Sat Nam, Thanks for your sharing on this... > I think the sentence "lose everything".....probably > comes from from not recognizing the Source (that > there in fact is one, that we can return to).............when > you die, if you have no concept of the Source, your > perception would be that you 'lose everything'.....when > that is not the case at all....but from a constricted > perpective it may seem that way. So if chanting Om > takes you to the Source, you would become > unmanifest.....being unmanifest to the ego's point > of view...is definetly losing everything! ha ha! In reference to your last sentance here... and having just got back from Germany's L2 training on meditation and the mind... I can *definitely* relate.... What a week!!!...Wahe Guru...*smile* :-D Blessings, Krishan Shiva Kaur Hampshire, England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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