the Divine and the Flesh

[Guest guest]

I find myself torn in the rift between the eternal and the

ephemeral. My one eye is fixed on the divine, the other flutters to

the flesh. That seems to be the story of my life so far. It wouldn't

have mattered if this didn't impede that, but it seems to, for some

strange reason. I wouldn't mind if I looked to the flesh in the

spirit of renunciation, already knowing its temporality, but there

seems to be a dialectic which is set up here, almost like the two

pans of the balance and it is up to me to place myself where I

choose to, because this brings that down and that brings this down.

The grasp of the finite sensual world is strong. It takes a strong

mind to negate it. Not to negate it, because it is bad or evil.

Negate it to know that you can negate it. The pleasures of the

avaricious mind and the flesh seems to constitute our subjectivity

to the extent that just to refrain and locate oneself in the Self

has become such a struggle.

 

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I am earnestly asking everyone here, has anyone in here been through

this same thing and been able to negotiate it? Lust and money is the

strongest pull within this temporary world and any earnest spiritual

endeavor should have both under control....Any advice? I am not

looking for ideas like 'accept it, its part of being human'. Not

even advice, if you want to relate how things went for you, that

would be wonderful enough....

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Sudeesh,

You are right. The grasp of the lust and greed in the finite

sensual world is strong, but the strongest reason to let it go is that it will

not make you happy. It leads only to pain and suffering.

Call on all of the ten Gurus if you have to but let it go.

 

 

Sincerely yours

Hari Sant Singh

 

Kindness has no defeat, caring has no end, and touching people's hearts is the

only language God knows.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Sat Nam....I have a few thoughts... ( I am not sure exactly what

it is that you are asking but, these are a few thoughts I am

having after reading your e-mail).

 

I am a person who aspires to be a self-realized human being.

I want to be able to fully live my "soulfulness" in my everyday

life. I want to "know" God and to "be" God in my every

moment of my life. Until I was able to begin expressing these deep

soulful desires (outloud) and begin moving towards realizing

them....I struggled with desires of the "flesh" as you put

it.....things of the material world, constantly calling me,

dragging me in, I felt caught and powerless...wondering if

I would ever get the monkey off my back.

 

Becoming aware of and consciously working with, my

Soul's desires, began to bridge the gap between those two

worlds, is what I have found. Desire is what makes the

world go round, for sure, but my relationship to it has

changed over the last few years, from one of slave to

a conscious participant in the process of manifestation.

 

Every material/flesh desire that I ever experienced was

part of a process of uncovering what it was that my Soul

was desiring, you know, what my heart wanted....but I

would get caught up in the guilt around the desire and

begin acting out and never investigate it at a deeper level.

 

In every moment something was "trying" to happen, there

was a process unfolding before me...and when I investigated

it at a deeper level, reflected on it, meditated on it, asked for

help in understanding...it began to be revealed to me...and

as my awareness of that grew, so did my ability to

become a participant in the process....manifesting desires

that are taking me in the direction my heart/Soul is

wanting me to go.....rather than being a slave to whatever

has caught up my senses in that moment.

 

So when I began working consciously with what it was

my Soul desires, then my being caught up by desires

that weren't leading me where I wanted to be going seemed

to calm down...or as I said my relationship to them

changed...they didn't hold as much pull for me anymore.

 

I still work everyday with desire (to desire is to be human)....I

still have to make choices everyday...but the pull of the

Soul is much stronger than the pull of the material

now....so I find I am much more capable of living my

Soulfulness in a material world these days.

 

That is my experience.

 

All Divine Blessings,

 

Sat Sangeet kaur

 

 

 

 

 

 

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