experiencing lots of coflict with people

[Guest guest]

SatNam,

I've been practicing Kundalini Yoga for about five years, Hatha for

eighteen. It seems that since I've started Kundalini Yoga, I set

people off and they get angry and frustrated with me. It really feels

like it's because my energy has changed. I happens most often wih

people from my past. I guess because I am so different now. I speak

the truth, ask for what I need, and don't stay in relatinships that

feel unhealthy or are abusive. I feel like people want to dominate me

sometimes, and I move away if that's the case.

I've also noticed that it's really brought my inner talents to a

level that seems to threaten others. I hope this doesn't sound

egotistical, but the practice has given me a great deal of

concentration and focus, and so as a ballet dancer I am now able to

do things technically that I never thought I could. Even my teacher,

who is a great master from Russia, looks at me sometimes as if he

feels that I have a secret. The most difficult steps have become

easy.

I remember recognizing this in my first Kundalini Yoga teacher. His

strength was superhuman, yet he was slight, quiet, and sensitive.

Any thougts?

Stephene

[Guest guest]

I have similary expirience. I say to persons with bad energy (with lot bad

emotions and thoughts) polite that I have no time. On questions I answer short

and go away. In discusion with such people they wish that you have same point of

wiev and nice opinion about his unbalanced mind-software. Ego is dominant. Some

people do not wish to see bad software in his minds and therefore is new self

instalation imposible, they must do that alone and ego play with them. We can

not help to people who can not or wish not to understand certain proces in human

minds and souls. Company of good souls make good for our souls. Good souls

radiate around good energy an company is therefore pleasant.

 

Sugestion for reading: Shankaranama uvaca

author: Sri Sri Shankaranama

 

Jupiter

 

 

[Guest guest]

Yes, old buddies may not know what to do with you (or themselves), but

just for fun ;o) can you share with us your full birthday? (you can

play along at www.3HO.org for a free numerology reading)

There is something in all of this for you to get a handle on (there

always is) and perhaps there is a big life lesson here to master.

Sat Nam,

Dharam

 

-

"yogastef" <YogaStef

Kundalini Yoga experiencing lots of coflict with people

 

 

> SatNam,

> I've been practicing Kundalini Yoga for about five years, Hatha for

> eighteen. It seems that since I've started Kundalini Yoga, I set

> people off and they get angry and frustrated with me. It really feels

> like it's because my energy has changed. I happens most often wih

> people from my past. I guess because I am so different now. I speak

> the truth, ask for what I need, and don't stay in relatinships that

> feel unhealthy or are abusive.

[Guest guest]

Hi

Is the big life lesson (or part of it) that Dharam referred to, to teach

those people who used to try to dominate one with their negative emotions,

that they can't do it anymore? One can't always avoid their presence.

Perhaps by "hanging in there" calmly one is actually holding a mirror out

for them to see themselves, making it uncomfortable for them. Perhaps they

too can learn from the experience.

Chela Shanti

Pretoria

[Guest guest]

Yes!!! I think this is very true. The easy way out is to run away.

Now I am standing my ground. Working on my third chakra has really

helped me to regain my sense of humor. I find I'm feeling a childlike

joy and laughing a lot now. I do the anger releasing exercise every

day, as well as the breath meditation for healing inner anger and

bringing out inner talents. It's really working. The only thing I

didn't count on is that I seem to have become a catalyst for other

people's anger now...oh well. Some people seem to get angry if you

radiate happiness. I do sets for the aura and it helps me to detach.

My dogs are absorbig the energy, and the ten year old now acts like a

young puppy! My healing is her healing...I trust the animals. They

always tell me the truth. They love the gong CD, too. It puts them in

a trance.

SatPal Kaur

 

Kundaliniyoga, "Pete Walters" <pjw@l...>

wrote:

> Hi

> Is the big life lesson (or part of it) that Dharam referred to, to

teach

> those people who used to try to dominate one with their negative

emotions,

> that they can't do it anymore? One can't always avoid their

presence.

> Perhaps by "hanging in there" calmly one is actually holding a

mirror out

> for them to see themselves, making it uncomfortable for them.

Perhaps they

> too can learn from the experience.

> Chela Shanti

> Pretoria

[Guest guest]

What anger releasing exercise and breath meditation are you doing? I'm going

through a major transition and need something like this.

 

Sahaj Kaur

 

 

In a message dated 5/27/2004 5:48:11 PM Central Standard Time,

YogaStef writes:

 

> Yes!!! I think this is very true. The easy way out is to run away.

> Now I am standing my ground. Working on my third chakra has really

> helped me to regain my sense of humor. I find I'm feeling a childlike

> joy and laughing a lot now. I do the anger releasing exercise every

> day, as well as the breath meditation for healing inner anger and

> bringing out inner talents. It's really working. The only thing I

> didn't count on is that I seem to have become a catalyst for other

> people's anger now...oh well. Some people seem to get angry if you

> radiate happiness. I do sets for the aura and it helps me to detach.

> My dogs are absorbig the energy, and the ten year old now acts like a

> young puppy! My healing is her healing...I trust the animals. They

> always tell me the truth. They love the gong CD, too. It puts them in

> a trance.

> SatPal Kaur

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Dharam Singh,

I have been enjoying reading your message which contains a lot of

helpful information (truth)! I have just found the numerology that

you suggested in your message is absolutely helpful and the result

related with spirituality is very similar to the one from my

astrology which came from China to Japan. So thank you very much

for this !

 

I respect your experience and wealth of knowledge and also your

helpful nature, so could I ask your help, please ? My English is

not good enough to understand the result completely... Sorry.

 

The Numerology result is:

Soul of 4, Karma of 4, Gift of 6, Destiny of 7, Path of 6.

 

I get headache easily when I encounter negative energy. Is this

because of my receptiveness ? Could you let me know how to avoid

this, please ? If I keep Kundalini Yoga, will I be able to avoid ?(

Soul of 4)

 

I did not realize that I have opinion or comments about

everything... this could be upsetting people ? Could you suggest

me what to do to improve the situation, please ? ( Karma of 4 )

 

Is one-pointed concentration protect me from negative energy as

well ? ( Gift of 6 )

 

What does 'person of prayer' mean ? Is it OK to pray in Japanese ?

Should I use Mantras ? ( Path of 6 )

 

After rising of Kundalini energy, I found a lots of conflict with

others. These were quite extreme. Problem is I do not feel I

have done anything rude or wrong, because they were my boss and

teachers. But I found better situations later on and started

seeking God. Is this implying the rising the energy too early for

me ? I did not know how to use the energy. Recently I found when

I rose the energy to my Third Eye, my reading of Zener Card improved

to 50% accuracy.

 

If you give me a slight help, it will be very much appreciated and

treasured.

 

Thank you for your time and knowledge.

 

God bless you,

Kumiko

[Guest guest]

Pete:

 

I have had the same questions over the years, and I have found the

following for me to be useful in my practice.

 

I wish to share with you the Four Noble Truths of Buddhist teachings. If

you did an Internet search on Four Noble Truths you would find it explained

100 different ways, the one that connected to me was:

 

Life is suffering.

Suffering is caused by desire.

The way to end suffering is to let go of desire.

The way to let go of desire by following the Eight Fold Path.

 

Again, if you do a search on Eight Fold Path, you will find one page

versions to 100 page versions. I am a simple person so I like the one page

version. I share with you the following:

 

The Buddha-Dharma is the realization within one’s deepest consciousness of

the Oneness of all life. For the attainment of this purpose, Buddha showed

us the Eightfold Path.

 

Right Views means to keep ourselves free from prejudice, superstition and

delusion... and to see aright the true nature of life.

 

Right Thoughts means to turn away from the hypocrisies of this world and to

direct our minds toward Truth and Positive Attitudes and Action.

 

Right Conduct means to see that our deeds are peaceable, benevolent,

compassionate and pure... and to live the Teachings daily.

 

Right Speech means to refrain from pointless and harmful talk... to speak

kindly and courteously to all.

 

Right Livelihood means to earn our living in such a way as to entail no

evil consequences. To seek that employment to which can give our complete

enthusiasm and devotion.

 

Right Effort means to direct our efforts continually to the overcoming of

ignorance and craving desires.

 

Right Mindfulness means to cherish good and pure thoughts, for all that we

say and do arises from our thoughts.

 

Right Meditation means to concentrate on the Oneness of all life and the

Buddhahood that exists within all beings.

 

(This version of the Eightfold Path was adapted from the Buddhist Temple of

Chicago Service Book, 40th Anniversary Edition, 1984)

 

For me, a returning yogi, my yoga practice is the means for Right Effort

and Right Mindfulness for me.

 

My suggestion is the following:

 

Pete: Is the big life lesson (or part of it) that Dharam referred to, to

teach those people who used to try to dominate one with their negative

emotions, that they can't do it anymore?

 

Bob: No. A teacher like Yogi-Ji can take on those type of karma teaching

duties, but for everyday joes, they are simply like the distractions

outside the room while in meditation. They are just part of the meditation

experience. They are only there if you choose to have them in your mind.

You are the only one in the world who can allow a thought to remain in your

mind. You have and forget a billion thoughts every day that you choose to

experience and let go of. Do you remember each car that you passed on the

road? Unless you choose to remember one of the millions of cars you pass,

they are not even flashes of colors in your mind.

 

Pete: One can't always avoid their presence.

 

Bob: And, their presence is only as powerful as the attention you pay to

them. A man coughing in back of a room could be a flash of a sound,

instantly forgotten, or an entire day of worry that soon you too will be

coughing.

 

Pete: Perhaps by "hanging in there" calmly one is actually holding a

mirror out for them to see themselves, making it uncomfortable for them.

Perhaps they too can learn from the experience.

 

Bob: We all learn in part by modeling who we want to become. So yes, be

the example of who you want them to be, who you want everyone to be, most

importantly, who you want to be. I would not suggest trying to make

someone uncomfortable by your actions, you always have the option to leave,

unless you are stuck on a flight and the captain has turned on the seat

belt sign. Then it is a good time to mentally study the Eight Fold Path in

your mind or other teaching which will keep you centered.

 

 

Sat Nam

 

Bob Roberts

bob

 

"When you examine the lives of the most influential people who have ever

walked among us, you discover one thread that winds through them all. They

have been aligned first with their spiritual nature and only then with

their physical selves."

 

~Albert Einstein~

 

 

> [Original Message]

> Pete Walters <pjw

> <Kundaliniyoga>

> 5/26/2004 3:25:40 PM

> Re: Kundalini Yoga Re: experiencing lots of coflict with people

>

> Hi

> Is the big life lesson (or part of it) that Dharam referred to, to teach

> those people who used to try to dominate one with their negative emotions,

> that they can't do it anymore? One can't always avoid their presence.

> Perhaps by "hanging in there" calmly one is actually holding a mirror out

> for them to see themselves, making it uncomfortable for them. Perhaps

they

> too can learn from the experience.

> Chela Shanti

> Pretoria

[Guest guest]

> The exercises I'm doing are from Ravi Singh's book Kundalini Yoga

for Strength Success and Spirit. The anger releasing one is under

quick fixes. The one for neutralizing inner anger, bringing out inner

talents and strengthening the immune system is under Breathing. The

book is excellent. I have his other two, as well. They really work.

His website is RaviYoga.com

May your transition be smooth...

SatPal Kaur

> What anger releasing exercise and breath meditation are you

doing? I'm going

> through a major transition and need something like this.

>

> Sahaj Kaur

>

>

> In a message dated 5/27/2004 5:48:11 PM Central Standard Time,

> YogaStef@a... writes:

>

> > Yes!!! I think this is very true. The easy way out is to run

away.

> > Now I am standing my ground. Working on my third chakra has

really

> > helped me to regain my sense of humor. I find I'm feeling a

childlike

> > joy and laughing a lot now. I do the anger releasing exercise

every

> > day, as well as the breath meditation for healing inner anger and

> > bringing out inner talents. It's really working. The only thing I

> > didn't count on is that I seem to have become a catalyst for

other

> > people's anger now...oh well. Some people seem to get angry if

you

> > radiate happiness. I do sets for the aura and it helps me to

detach.

> > My dogs are absorbig the energy, and the ten year old now acts

like a

> > young puppy! My healing is her healing...I trust the animals.

They

> > always tell me the truth. They love the gong CD, too. It puts

them in

> > a trance.

> > SatPal Kaur

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the information. I checked out his website and he certainly

has a lot to offer. Since you peaked my interest in working out anger issues, I

checked my book of Gururattan's Relax and Renew and did the set on page

56...Anger Set..Repairing damage to the system of ill-placed anger. It helped

tremendously. I didn't identify my problem with anger and it holding me back or

affecting others with my anger, until your message. So, thanks for your

sharing. It certainly releases constriction and opens one up when one starts

getting rid of inner anger.

Best,

Sahaj Kaur

 

 

In a message dated 5/30/2004 6:07:47 AM Central Standard Time,

YogaStef writes:

 

> The exercises I'm doing are from Ravi Singh's book Kundalini Yoga

> for Strength Success and Spirit. The anger releasing one is under

> quick fixes. The one for neutralizing inner anger, bringing out inner

> talents and strengthening the immune system is under Breathing. The

> book is excellent. I have his other two, as well. They really work.

> His website is RaviYoga.com

> May your transition be smooth...

> SatPal Kaur

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

May I remind everyone that most of Ravi Singh's products can be purchased from

www.yogatech.com

 

Sat Nam!

Gordon

 

-

Nettlelady

Kundaliniyoga

Sunday, May 30, 2004 10:46 AM

Re: Kundalini Yoga Re: experiencing lots of coflict with people

 

 

 

Thank you for the information. I checked out his website and he certainly

has a lot to offer. Since you peaked my interest in working out anger issues, I

checked my book of Gururattan's Relax and Renew and did the set on page

56...Anger Set..Repairing damage to the system of ill-placed anger. It helped

tremendously. I didn't identify my problem with anger and it holding me back or

affecting others with my anger, until your message. So, thanks for your

sharing. It certainly releases constriction and opens one up when one starts

getting rid of inner anger.

Best,

Sahaj Kaur

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sahaj Kaur,

Thank you for your kind words. I'm so glad that the anger kriya is

helping you. Yes, I really believe that inner anger is a problem many

of us have.Admitting it and working on healing it is less common.

When my teacher gave us a kriya for inner anger, my friend,(a Reichi

practitioner,) said she thought, "oh, I don't have any anger." Five

mins. into the class she had tears streaming down her face. She was

suprised.

Women are taught that it's not nice to feel anger. The Kundalini

exercises let you feel it, move the energy, and release it. Then we

have space inside for more joy and happiness. I'm learning to really

respect my anger as a messenger that my boundaries are being crossed.

The meditations help me to say what I need to say without being rude,

hurtful, or reactive.

All the best,

Sat Pal Kaur

 

> Thank you for the information. I checked out his website and

he certainly

> has a lot to offer. Since you peaked my interest in working out

anger issues, I

> checked my book of Gururattan's Relax and Renew and did the set on

page

> 56...Anger Set..Repairing damage to the system of ill-placed

anger. It helped

> tremendously. I didn't identify my problem with anger and it

holding me back or

> affecting others with my anger, until your message. So, thanks for

your

> sharing. It certainly releases constriction and opens one up when

one starts

> getting rid of inner anger.

> Best,

> Sahaj Kaur

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Kumiko: Your experience is perfectly normal.

> After rising of Kundalini energy, I found a lots of conflict

with > others. These were quite extreme. Problem is I do not feel I

> have done anything rude or wrong, because they were my boss and

> teachers. But I found better situations later on and started

> seeking God. Is this implying the rising the energy too early for

> me ?

Never say too early.. it is never too soon for all of us. The sooner

Kundalini rises the better the whole planet will be.

This phenomena is explained clearly in the book "The Power of Now" by

Eckhart Tolle. Once the K energy comes up, you resonate at a

different frequency. This frequency is vibrating higher than the people

around you and it will stimulate their K (latent human potential aka Kundalini)

at that frequency. Many people

are not ready for this. IT is as if they have this balloon of things they

do not want to know about - repressed issues from past lives and so forth.

This sits inside them for lifetimes without being disturbed perhaps, and

along you come and like a lightning rod, you stimulate all that miserable

stuff inside and it rises up into their conscious minds.

It is not going to feel good. It is going to be very upsetting. They will

not know it is their own issues, they will think it is YOU who suddenly

makes them angry. So they harrass you and get

angry because they are trying to deal with this sudden onslaught of the

fear they had as a child maybe... who was raped or injured. They are not

conscious of what is happening, but you are. Have compassion.

You can diffuse it with humor, and definitely do not start vibrating at

the same frequency as their "sh*t" or you will go down too. You must keep

your frequency above it.. see it as them having a bowel movement of their

issues.. that they are cleaning out and it is healthy even if disturbing.

 

When you meet a GREAT kundalini being who has his/her kundalini vibrating

fully as I believe humans are destined to be, then ALL your issues try to

come out at once and this causes a spiritual emergency. In a way you are

creating a mini stimulation of their Kundalini - you are causing it YES...

so it is your responsibility to handle it with compassion.

I have dealt with this kind of attack by protecting myself from them with

mirrors. This actually makes them worse, so that is not really going to

solve the problem in the long term.

The most compassion you can have is to NOT engage them in their illusions,

but to keep yourself neutral, even unphased, and holding compassion which

is not about the ego. I would say that you might need to practice this if

you are forced to deal with these issues regularly.

Blessings, Ruth