Guest guest Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 Sat Nam Suky, First of all, while KY no alcohol and no sex ;-) Alcohol has - if consumed in excessive amounts - not desirable effects on your body / psyche. To be on the safe side, many people simply ban it. I personally think, that once in a while a glass of beer or wine (esp. when consumed after a nice meal with your partner..) could also be 'food for the soul'. But stay with only one glass. Never drink alcohol, when you are thirsty. Never drink alcohol, when you are feeling bad. Never try to 'cure problems' with alcohol - this won't help. If you purify yourself with proper diet and abstinence, you realize how sensitive you become. Then the second glass of wine simply does not taste any more.... As usual, it is always you who has to make the choices. You develop a natural feeling, what is good for you and what not. Sex is another interesting topic, which could lead to endless discussions, esp. when it comes to taboos, christianity, responsibility or AIDS. I personally believe, that sexual activity has a lot to do with emotional bondings and is not just a body function. Therefore sexuality is an intimate element of a relationship. Sex without feelings does not make you happy. So I would recommend to observe and question yourself. What are you doing, why are you doing it ? Besides that: moderation is the key. Whatever you do in live, do it with moderation. Sending blessings and light, Adarsh S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 Sat Nam, Alcohol disturbs and clouds the mind. We practice KY to clarify and balance the mind. Sexuality is accepted as part of being human in the KY practice. We accept all the chakras and the whole human body. The problem is the "being human" part. Fortunately we can practice KY so we can become more whole ourselves. In our own wholeness we have a better chance of having meaningful and even enlightening intimate relationships. See Sexuality and Sprituality, which was the first book put together on this topic presenting the KY kriyas related to the subject. www.yogatech.com Then practice a kriya of your choice with the intention of opening your awareness to this topic. We could talk about this topic forever, but we won't because experience and awareness out do talking 1 to 1 million. Sat Nam, Gururattan Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 I agree to a certain extent with your statements. I agree "moderation is they key" though I also find this to be true as well: "Be moderate in moderation." I find it useful to cultivating awareness to follow a proper diet and practice abstinence. Though above all what I find most important is a proper functioning of the emotional centre. I am reminded of a story involving Yogi Bhajan and some of his students during one of his retreats/courses. There was this couple who were very much into macrobiotics and they noticed how other students had been "cheating" on their diets by eating chocolate bars and other forms of "junk food" during their stay. Anyways this couple went to see Yogi Bhajan to tell him what they had discovered and they told him that if they were put in charge of the meals etc... that everything would be much better. So Yogi Bhajan agreed, "Fine you can be in charge of the food preparation but first you must practice the following diet without fail for 40 days first." They were very pleased and asked Yogi Bhajan what sort of monodiet Yogi Bhajan had in mind for them. He responded "Every meal for 40 days you shall eat pizza and a coke." As for the sex topic I recommend reading Osho's book From Sex to Superconsciousness and the following paragraphs by G.I. Gurdjieff (excerpt taken from In Search of the Miraculous by P.D. Ouspensky): "Is complete sexual abstinence necessary for transmutation and is sexual abstinence, in general, useful for work on oneself?" we asked him. "Here there is not one but a number of questions," said G. "In the first place sexual abstinence is necessary for transmutation only in certain cases, that is, for certain types of people. For others it is not at all necessary. And with yet others it comes by itself when transmutation begins. I will explain this more clearly. For certain types a long and complete sexual abstinence is necessary for transmutation to begin; this means in other words that without a long and complete sexual abstinence transmutation will not begin. But once it has begun abstinence is no longer necessary. In other cases, that is, with other types, transmutation can begin in a normal sexual life—and on the contrary, can begin sooner and proceed better with a very great outward expenditure of sex energy. In the third case the beginning of transmutation does not require abstinence, but, having begun, transmutation takes the whole of sexual energy and puts an end to normal sexual life or the outward expenditure of sex energy. "Then the other question—'Is sexual abstinence useful for the work or not?' "It is useful if there is abstinence in all centers. If there is abstinence in one center and full liberty of imagination in the others, then there could be nothing worse. And still more, abstinence can be useful if a man knows what to do with the energy which he saves in this way. If he does not know what to do with it, nothing whatever can be gained by abstinence." Sat Nam, mushanti On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 14:25:16 +0800, Jürgen Laske <jlaske wrote: > > Sat Nam Suky, > > First of all, while KY no alcohol and no sex ;-) > > Alcohol has - if consumed in excessive amounts - not desirable effects on > your body / psyche. To be on the safe side, many people simply ban it. I > personally think, that once in a while a glass of beer or wine (esp. when > consumed after a nice meal with your partner..) could also be 'food for the > soul'. But stay with only one glass. Never drink alcohol, when you are > thirsty. Never drink alcohol, when you are feeling bad. Never try to 'cure > problems' with alcohol - this won't help. > If you purify yourself with proper diet and abstinence, you realize how > sensitive you become. Then the second glass of wine simply does not taste > any more.... As usual, it is always you who has to make the choices. You > develop a natural feeling, what is good for you and what not. > > Sex is another interesting topic, which could lead to endless discussions, > esp. when it comes to taboos, christianity, responsibility or AIDS. I > personally believe, that sexual activity has a lot to do with emotional > bondings and is not just a body function. Therefore sexuality is an > intimate element of a relationship. Sex without feelings does not make you > happy. > > So I would recommend to observe and question yourself. What are you doing, > why are you doing it ? > Besides that: moderation is the key. Whatever you do in live, do it with > moderation. > > Sending blessings and light, > > Adarsh S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2004 Report Share Posted July 10, 2004 Of what value is it for the Tiger to say "I give up meat" once he has lost his teeth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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