Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Hello everyone, Just wondered if one of you wise people here could clarify something for me please. >From memory (might have been the KY lessons Gururattan?) I have seen a comment that one of our goals is to internalise sat nam - i.e. chant/say it to ourselves on each breath. I find I can do this relatively well if silent, with myself, mediatative, however achieving it while having to concentrate on something else is pretty much impossible. I guess I am sensing that at first it is a very conscious thing, thus overriding anything else that needs conscious input, but that it becomes more sub-conscious as time goes by - does that sound right? It's almost as if it is working itself down or in, into body itself or some other level. Thanks Darren Alexander Auckland, New Zealand ###################################################################### Attention: This e-mail is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. ###################################################################### ###################################################################### This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by NetSheild ###################################################################### Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Dear Darren, > From memory (might have been the KY lessons Gururattan?) I have seen a comment that one of our goals is to internalise sat nam - i.e. chant/say it to ourselves on each breath. * Yes, that is in one of the lessons on Sat Nam. I find I can do this relatively well if silent, with myself, mediatative, * That is great. however achieving it while having to concentrate on something else is pretty much impossible. * If you can't think of 2 things at the same time that is normal, especially for a man's mind. Yogi Bhajan said that men can only think of one thing at a time. This does have its advantages for concentration and focus. Women have more channels, which has advantages and disadvantages. BTW, this doesn't mean that women can think and chant at the same time. The rational mind and the neutral, meditative mind are two different channels. > I guess I am sensing that at first it is a very conscious thing, thus overriding anything else that needs conscious input, but that it becomes more sub-conscious as time goes by - does that sound right? * yes this is true. It's almost as if it is working itself down or in, into body itself or some other level. * Very good observation. This is working for you. * Although you may not be mentally hearing Sat Nam, you can be aware of your breath. The breath takes on a sound or a feeling awareness which substitutes for or integrates the vibration of SAt Nam. * keep your awareness tuned and follow what you are experiencing. You are progressing into deeper levels of awareness. Sat Nam, Gururattan Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Thank you very much it helps to know that I'm sensing it correctly. That's the great thing about the advice you and others are giving on the list, and I guess that's the whole experienced/novice; master/disciple scenario - sometimes you know but don't quite believe and so look for confirmation! Darren Gururattan Kaur Khalsa [gururattan] Wednesday, 27 October 2004 4:19 p.m. Kundaliniyoga Re: Kundalini Yoga Internalising Sat Nam chant Dear Darren, > From memory (might have been the KY lessons Gururattan?) I have seen a comment that one of our goals is to internalise sat nam - i.e. chant/say it to ourselves on each breath. * Yes, that is in one of the lessons on Sat Nam. I find I can do this relatively well if silent, with myself, mediatative, * That is great. however achieving it while having to concentrate on something else is pretty much impossible. * If you can't think of 2 things at the same time that is normal, especially for a man's mind. Yogi Bhajan said that men can only think of one thing at a time. This does have its advantages for concentration and focus. Women have more channels, which has advantages and disadvantages. BTW, this doesn't mean that women can think and chant at the same time. The rational mind and the neutral, meditative mind are two different channels. > I guess I am sensing that at first it is a very conscious thing, thus overriding anything else that needs conscious input, but that it becomes more sub-conscious as time goes by - does that sound right? * yes this is true. It's almost as if it is working itself down or in, into body itself or some other level. * Very good observation. This is working for you. * Although you may not be mentally hearing Sat Nam, you can be aware of your breath. The breath takes on a sound or a feeling awareness which substitutes for or integrates the vibration of SAt Nam. * keep your awareness tuned and follow what you are experiencing. You are progressing into deeper levels of awareness. Sat Nam, Gururattan Kaur Kundalini Yoga - for the best online selection of Books, Videos and DVDs on Kundalini Yoga, based on ancient technology as brought to the West by Yogi Bhajan. Also a great range of beautiful Meditation and Mantra CDs, all with RealAudio sound clips. - visit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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