Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Dear Sangeet, may I first say that my thoughts & prayers are with you dear sister... you mention that you believe that this is more than just regular depression...follow your instincts...may I ask if she has been checked to see if she has bi-polar? Was she on any kind of medication before she went into the hospital? I want to respect your privacy,you may contact me off line as some of these questions & answers could get very personal... "Ad gurey nameh, jugad gurey nameh, sat gurey nameh, siri guru dev nameh".... this mantra brings protection & joy... meaning: I bow to the primal wisdom I bow before the Wisdom of the Ages I bow before the True Wisdom I bow before the Great Divine Wisdom Hands are in prayer pose & as you chant circle this energy around your daughter and as you continue to chant this mantra imagine this protective, healing light becoming brighter & brighter & more expansive... always in love & light, Jiwan Shakti Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Madam, I pray for your daughter's well being. May I suggest that you allow her more "freedom" or discuss her personal issues --if thats the cause fthe problem -- since it generally is that parental pressures - or some romantic mishaps lead to such tensions which cannot be removed by mantras alone. Umesh MEd - student at Harvard University, Graduate School of Education Sangeet <sangeet wrote: Eight days ago my daughter attempted suicide by overdosing on a lethal dose of caffeine, she will turn seventeen in two days. She is very lucky to be alive. She was taken to hospital by ambulance and is now in a teen mental health department of a hospital. After visiting her today, I am advised they Dr.'s are considering having her go home by the end of the week. She, although very depressed appears to be obsessed with killing herself and has implied this is her intention when she is out. She almost appears as though her soul is gone. There is a lot of darkness around her and I feel great concern. She used to do yoga, but no longer has any interest. Is there a mantra I can do to send protection to her and the house if she returns the way she is. As it is now I would not be able to leave her alone and not be able to sleep as she is determined to not give up her plans. They have put her on Prozac. Please any recommendations would be appreciated and I do believe this is more than just a regular depression. Blessings, Sangeet Kundalini Yoga - for the best online selection of Books, Videos and DVDs on Kundalini Yoga, based on ancient technology as brought to the West by Yogi Bhajan. Also a great range of beautiful Meditation and Mantra CDs, all with RealAudio sound clips. - visit Kundaliniyoga/ Kundaliniyoga ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Sangeet, I cannot offer you advice other than prayer. I can send blessings and love to you and your daughter. You have my heart. Love, Joan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Sat Nam....you can never go wrong with chanting Guru Guru Wahe Guru Guru Ram Das Guru....lord of miracles....divine guidance and protection. All Light, Sat Sangeet kaur Post your free ad now! Canada Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Sat Nam Sangeet, It goes without saying that all of our prayers are with you and your daughter. A friend of mine had struggled within herself with her own suicidal thoughts and feelings. What got through to her was someone pointing out that it was her choice whether she dealt with the issues/pains driving her in this lifetime or next time around. She chose to stick around. Bless, Bless Dharam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Sat Nam, Sangeet, my name is Sadhana and I am following this beautiful list for some time. As I come from Germany, perhaps my english is not so good, but being a psychotherapist, a yogateacher and a mother, I felt I'd like to say some words to your posting. First of all I want to tell you that I can feel you are a wonderful mother!!! Every line breathes your love for your daughter, your pain, your grief and your heart-felt wish to help. It is surely the most challenging moment in a life of a mother when a child does try to suicide herself. So: Honour your feelings, bless yourself, bless your loving heart, forgive yourself whatever it could be what you perhaps accuse yourself for. There is a beautiful meditation for blessing, in which you sit in easy pose, place your left hand over the heart chakra, stretch your right arm out at a 45-degree angle, palm facing the ground. Eyes are closed, focus is on the navel point. Breathe long and deep and bless yourself and your daughter. You could go mentally through her and both of your life, let images come from your life together, and, on each exhale, send a blessing. Honour what has been, what is and what will be. Honour your and her love, and if you want or have to cry, don't hesitate. Just feel your heart and your blessing. >From what you write, it seems that your daughter did yoga and meditation for a certain time. So she seems to have been very close to you and open for the inner healing. Doing that meditation you could help her as well open up again. Sometimes children who internally feel very close to us externally have to do very violent things either to be able to separate (and not being able to tolerate that) or trying to find their own way different from their parents. Sometimes they initiate power games, sometimes they are very aggressive, sometimes they turn this aggression inside. Your daughter is in an age when she is about to internally leave the nest so to speak, and for some sensitive people that is a very challenging time. Another idea I had was to do Kirtan Kriya for her, for this time of transition in her life (and in yours as well). To surrender to life itself and trust that everything happens to us to grow into love. Just being open and vulnerable - and that way strong in our hearts. I pray for you and your daugher. Love and light. Sadhana K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Sat Nam, dear Sangeet, your mail and the problem around your daughter touched me deeply. I was thinking: what would I do, if I would be faced with such a problem ?! I assume, that this problem is challenging you / your daughter and family on various levels and is not solely a problem of your daughter alone. Questions for me would be: - can I accept the will of my daughter ? - can I let go and trust in god ? - do I love my child without conditions ? - what can we do to improve the situation (go to a travel, change our daily life, change our communication, make together a seminar, what kind of professional help is available, etc.) Just a thought: I heard a couple of times, that for youth with depression / suicide wishes the responsibility for a small or young pet is getting them back on track with life - perhaps she needs the feeling to be needed e.g. for a small dog, a kitten, etc. ?! Sending you a beam of light, love and blessings, Adarsh S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Sat Nam, Suicidal depression is indeed different that the normal kind of analitic depression common in our society. The good news is that at 18-19 she will have completed an important stage in childhood development and may just come out of it. The bad news is that that darkness you see around her may indeed be a darkness around her soul that is very hard to shake without skilled spiritual intervention (shamans, priests, etc.). People who are chronically anorexic often have this for instance, and will starve themselves almost to the point of death. That said, if you look in the mind of the suicidal individual you will see a tendency towards black and white thinking. Life is viewed as unacceptable and it will always be like that and the only alternative therefore is death. If you, or a skilled therapist, can break through this tendency then the outcome will probably be positive. This is my experience studying and treating suicidal individuals. I'm presuming you have already spoken with a suicide prevention specialist and have been made privy to the varying reasons why a person threatens suicide, though that probably doesn't apply here. Good luck. And please keep us informed how it goes. Kundaliniyoga, Sangeet <sangeet@h...> wrote: > > Eight days ago my daughter attempted suicide by overdosing on a lethal dose of caffeine, she will turn seventeen in two days. She is very lucky to be alive. > She was taken to hospital by ambulance and is now in a teen mental health department of a hospital. > After visiting her today, I am advised they Dr.'s are considering having her go home by the end of the week. > She, although very depressed appears to be obsessed with killing herself and has implied this is her intention when she is out. > > She almost appears as though her soul is gone. There is a lot of darkness around her and I feel great concern. > She used to do yoga, but no longer has any interest. > Is there a mantra I can do to send protection to her and the house if she returns the way she is. > As it is now I would not be able to leave her alone and not be able to sleep as she is determined to not give up her plans. > They have put her on Prozac. > Please any recommendations would be appreciated and I do believe this is more than just a regular depression. > Blessings, > Sangeet > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 Dear Sangeet, My prayers are also with you and your daughter and I will hold you both in my meditation. I have experienced in my own life what it is like to want to die. I want to tell you that If your daughter is taking Prozac you should watch her even more carefully as there are strong indications that Prozac and other anti-depressants are NOT recommended for young people and may actually cause suicide. If you want more info e-mail me off the list. I don't mean to scare you but to let you know some of the resrarch. kartarkaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 sangeet, love, peace and strength with you both at this time! I am sure of one thing... Prozac is unnatural and detrimental to the minds and bodies of many young people. I kniow, having been on it and several other medications in my youth. It can often give them just the mental energy they need to persue their destructive urges. I am not saying it is so for everyone, but I know that there are better ways of dealing with suicidal urges. Please don't be alarmed- God is watching after you and yours. But it is commonly believed these medications can disturb and deform thought patterns and spiritual vibrations. The best thing for a young person to know in these times is that someone is there for them who loves them, and without judgement or control. My prayers are with you. Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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