Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Sat Nam! I've been doing the spinal set everyday since December along with the kirtin kriya, but usually around 8 or 9 a.m. I've always found it very energizing. However, this week I have started following an ayurvedic schedule and diet and getting up around 5:30 a.m., showering, meditation, then my ky spinal set and kirtin kriya. So I'm finished with all of this by 7:30 a.m....long before I was even out of bed before! :) My question is that since this change I am noticing that I am nearly falling asleep by the end of the spinal set and am not feeling energized by the set or the kirtin kriya as I have always in the past. In fact, this sleepiness is still with me until late morning. Should I just press on and this will pass, or have I made a mistake in the way I have combined these new ayurvedic practices along with ky?? I am very Vata dominant and was having a lot of trouble sleeping and just calming down, and the ayurvedic practices seemed a good fit. And in fact I have been sleeping much better this week. But I'm so new to all of this, and I don't really know what I'm doing! I'd really appreciate any advice you may have. Thanks so much! Blessings, Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Sat Nam Carol, >However, this week I have started following an ayurvedic schedule and diet Could you elaborate a bit? prakruti / vikruti? >long before I was even out of > bed before! :) Vata's generally need more sleep. > I am very Vata dominant and was having a lot of trouble sleeping and > just calming down, and the ayurvedic practices seemed a good fit. And > in fact I have been sleeping much better this week. Great I study ayurveda and love it's spiritual side and how it can support yogic practice, if you give me some more info I'd gladly try to help out. Blessings, Gurushabd Singh (Albuquerque, NM) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 You know, what I've always found works best for me is listening to my own body and patterns. I am NOT a morning person. I am sensitive to lack of sleep and, like you, do not always sleep restfully. The few days I tried the whole pre-dawn yoga thing I felt rotten. My advice is to do what is comfortable for YOU and to work with yourself, rather than following someone else's formula. In my own case, the "wrong" times are right for me. Cheers, Mia >"carmill00" <carmill00 >Kundaliniyoga >Kundaliniyoga >Kundalini Yoga getting sleepy during/after ky >Sun, 22 May 2005 14:25:55 -0000 > >Sat Nam! I've been doing the spinal set everyday since December along >with the kirtin kriya, but usually around 8 or 9 a.m. I've always >found it very energizing. However, this week I have started following >an ayurvedic schedule and diet and getting up around 5:30 a.m., >showering, meditation, then my ky spinal set and kirtin kriya. So I'm >finished with all of this by 7:30 a.m....long before I was even out of >bed before! :) > >My question is that since this change I am noticing that I am nearly >falling asleep by the end of the spinal set and am not feeling >energized by the set or the kirtin kriya as I have always in the >past. In fact, this sleepiness is still with me until late morning. >Should I just press on and this will pass, or have I made a mistake in >the way I have combined these new ayurvedic practices along with ky?? > >I am very Vata dominant and was having a lot of trouble sleeping and >just calming down, and the ayurvedic practices seemed a good fit. And >in fact I have been sleeping much better this week. But I'm so new to >all of this, and I don't really know what I'm doing! I'd really >appreciate any advice you may have. Thanks so much! > >Blessings, Carol > > > > _______________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Dear Carol, Are you going to bed earlier so that you are getting the sleep that you require? If not, therein lies a big part of the answer. Maybe vatas have a different optimal schedule. GuruShabd, could you address the possibility that different types have different optimal sleep schedules? Sat Nam, Gururattan Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 Carol, what time are you getting to sleep? I ask that for two reasons, and the first being pretty obvious: 1- are you getting the same amount of sleep as before? and 2- the sleep one gets before midnight is of a deeper kind. The nervous and endocrine systems are repairing more so before midnight and the circulatory and respiratory systems afterward. If when you do Kundalini Yoga your reaction (regardless of the time of day) is to go deep into sleepyness, it's maybe your body going into the flow and trying to get the rejuvenation it didn't receive before midnight. I personally am a night owl and will often do a 4am Sadhana on little more than 3 hours of sleep. I then go back to sleep for the balance. (I am self employed so..........). If, however I wait and try to do a yoga practice at the time you are trying it is very, very difficult. Maybe this has something to due with the energy going from the more Satvic period (2am - 6am) into the Tamasic guna that dominates from 6am - 10am. Many people use coffee to get themselves out the door at this time. To clarify, doing my sadhana at 4am - 6am, although on less sleep and confronting my deepest issues is easier than a practice 2 hours later. I will also say that if you are one of those folks living out there on the frontier where you are one of a very few doing this sacred technology, and getting together a group is nearly impossible, I have a bunch of compassion for you. There is no way I could do what I do in the Amrit Vela (2.5 hours before sunrise) without at least a few other folks around. It's an extremely challenging time those first few minutes getting out of bed ( more at http://www.sahej.com/Chicago_sadhana.html ). "The hotter the battle, the sweeter the victory". So, in closing, I am saying get up earlier. Sat Nam, Dharam Singh Millis, MA http://www.sahej.com/Chicago_sadhana.html It is common to regret not waking, but no one ever regrets coming to Sadhana!" Shiva Singh - Chicago, USA > an ayurvedic schedule and diet and getting up around 5:30 a.m., > showering, meditation, then my ky spinal set and kirtin kriya. So I'm > finished with all of this by 7:30 a.m....long before I was even out of > bed before! > > Blessings, Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2005 Report Share Posted May 26, 2005 Sat Nam, > Maybe vatas have a different optimal schedule. GuruShabd, could you address > the possibility that different types have different optimal sleep schedules? Most definitly. Vatas are the ones that need most sleep, between 7 or even 9 hours. >From an all-around health perspective (not keeping yogic practices at amrit vela in mind), vatas can wake up as "late" as 06:30 am. The reasoning behind this is that kapha time in the morning starts at 06:00 am. If you are sleeping after this time, the kapha will increase making you lethargic and dull (think of those sunday morning when you sleep in till noon and don't get anything done). This is not really going to be a problem for vatas (who are quite thin and jumpy by nature). Kaphas on the other hand need to get up as early as 04:30, and preferably sleep around 5-6 hours. Pittas around 6-7 (5:30 wake up). Staying up late aggravates vata, making us restless and ungrounded. Artist love to stay up this late, as vata (air and ether elements) governs creativity also. Blessings, Gurushabd (Albuquerque, NM) PS: a nice online constitution assesment quiz can be found here: http://www.banyanbotanicals.com/constitutions/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2005 Report Share Posted May 28, 2005 Sat Nam Carol, One other consideration is if the time of your practice coincides with a need to clear yourself through a particular meridian. Check out http://www.sahej.com/meridians.html Although mindfulness is difficult if we're falling off into sleep, but there may more to it than an actual need for sleep. Someday if you are ever seeing an acupuncturist, you may be able to get some further insight on this. Have a good weekend, Sat Nam, Dharam Singh Millis, MA > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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