Re:Mother of all yogas...

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

I brought up this topic awhile ago & wanted to

elaborate on it, I found this quote in one of my books

& I'm not clear about it... quote: "Kundalini Yoga is

called the mother of all Yoga’s because it’s the

original system from which all other Yoga’s stem."

 

when I saw the movie documentary "Yoga Unveiled" they

spoke of the time of when Kundalini was born & it is

my understanding that it is younger than many of the

other systems, if my understanding is correct, how is

it then that we can be the Mother of all yogas(that

all other yogas stem)? I ask this question because I

want to be clear about the meaning of the quote (: any

insight to this question would be greatly appreciated,

thank you

in love & light,

Jiwan Shakti

Tampa, FL

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

First, the purpose of yoga, all yoga is to raise to the Kundalini and to

exalt that aspect of the deep self in all it's permutations. These New

Jack yogis, Fueurstein included, weren't there when the first person ,

either by choice or dire necessity, made the move from leaning on the

Ego (limited self), to leaning on the Infinite entirely for their

support. Kundalini may not have had a name way back in 6,000 BC but

that's what was going on. People were concerned with changing their life

within community, and not changing their butt (vanity). In this same

video you mentioned, they said clearly, and I quote, "little is known of

the origins of Yoga, but......" Blah, Blah, Blah. Well, if so little is

known then they shouldn't hold themselves as the great authority.

Along the same lines........How long has Yoga Journal been in

publication? Maybe 20+ years (???) Yogi Bhajan came here in '69. How

many articles do you think were written about him by YJ? One, and that

was after he passed over. Shouldn't that make you wonder if there is

maybe some self interest in all of this???? Cornering the market?

 

Kundalini is often defined as "lock of the hair of the Beloved".

Just reflect on that a bit. Think of the traditional Teacher-Chela

relationship. The transmission of knowledge through the Love and Trust.

That's what the full system of Yoga is about (Eight Stems or Ashtang).

What you're getting these days is one stem, Asana and that's pretty much it.

Kundalini has been called the "Yoga of Transmission".

Hey Jiwan Shakti, I am late for work.

Keep embracing these questions.

Sat Nam,

Dharam Singh

 

wolfsister harmony wrote:

 

> Sat Nam,

> I brought up this topic awhile ago & wanted to

> elaborate on it, I found this quote in one of my books

> & I'm not clear about it... quote: "Kundalini Yoga is

> called the mother of all Yoga's because it's the

> original system from which all other Yoga's stem."

>

> when I saw the movie documentary "Yoga Unveiled" they

> spoke of the time of when Kundalini was born & it is

> my understanding that it is younger than many of the

> other systems, if my understanding is correct, how is

> it then that we can be the Mother of all yogas(that

> all other yogas stem)? I ask this question because I

> want to be clear about the meaning of the quote (: any

> insight to this question would be greatly appreciated,

> thank you

> in love & light,

> Jiwan Shakti

> Tampa, FL

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear DHARAM,

 

The Crusial Question To All The Kundalini Lovers' Is: Have You Got Your

KUNDALINI RAISED / AWAKENED Totally, Reach The SAHASRARA Chakra, Stay

Active There & Never Goes Back Down To The Mooladhara Again ???

 

d h a r a m <pran-_-yogi wrote:

First, the purpose of yoga, all yoga is to raise to the Kundalini and to

exalt that aspect of the deep self in all it's permutations. These New

Jack yogis, Fueurstein included, weren't there when the first person ,

either by choice or dire necessity, made the move from leaning on the

Ego (limited self), to leaning on the Infinite entirely for their

support. Kundalini may not have had a name way back in 6,000 BC but

that's what was going on. People were concerned with changing their life

within community, and not changing their butt (vanity). In this same

video you mentioned, they said clearly, and I quote, "little is known of

the origins of Yoga, but......" Blah, Blah, Blah. Well, if so little is

known then they shouldn't hold themselves as the great authority.

Along the same lines........How long has Yoga Journal been in

publication? Maybe 20+ years (???) Yogi Bhajan came here in '69. How

many articles do you think were written about him by YJ? One, and that

was after he passed over. Shouldn't that make you wonder if there is

maybe some self interest in all of this???? Cornering the market?

 

Kundalini is often defined as "lock of the hair of the Beloved".

Just reflect on that a bit. Think of the traditional Teacher-Chela

relationship. The transmission of knowledge through the Love and Trust.

That's what the full system of Yoga is about (Eight Stems or Ashtang).

What you're getting these days is one stem, Asana and that's pretty much it.

Kundalini has been called the "Yoga of Transmission".

Hey Jiwan Shakti, I am late for work.

Keep embracing these questions.

Sat Nam,

Dharam Singh

 

wolfsister harmony wrote:

 

> Sat Nam,

> I brought up this topic awhile ago & wanted to

> elaborate on it, I found this quote in one of my books

> & I'm not clear about it... quote: "Kundalini Yoga is

> called the mother of all Yoga's because it's the

> original system from which all other Yoga's stem."

>

> when I saw the movie documentary "Yoga Unveiled" they

> spoke of the time of when Kundalini was born & it is

> my understanding that it is younger than many of the

> other systems, if my understanding is correct, how is

> it then that we can be the Mother of all yogas(that

> all other yogas stem)? I ask this question because I

> want to be clear about the meaning of the quote (: any

> insight to this question would be greatly appreciated,

> thank you

> in love & light,

> Jiwan Shakti

> Tampa, FL

[Guest guest]

Dearest Sister,

 

What Was Explained Before Is Of The So Many Answers You Can Get, But

In My Opinion, It Began With The Knowledge About " The Very Useful Material

Energy Which Stay Dormant Inside The Mooladhara Chakra"; From That Time On,

Especially Yogis, Have Been Trying Very Hard, By CREATING All Types Of Yoga ,

In Order To Find A Very Short Way To Get Their " Useful Material Energy "

Totally AWAKENED; Yogis Named That Dormant Material Energy By KUNDALINI in a

way To translate The Curved Shape Of The Energy.

 

Even Now People With REIKI aware That They Are In a Way To KUNDALINI

Awakening!

 

Hoping You Get The Answer.

 

wolfsister harmony <wolfsister_harmony wrote:

Sat Nam,

I brought up this topic awhile ago & wanted to

elaborate on it, I found this quote in one of my books

& I'm not clear about it... quote: "Kundalini Yoga is

called the mother of all Yoga’s because it’s the

original system from which all other Yoga’s stem."

 

when I saw the movie documentary "Yoga Unveiled" they

spoke of the time of when Kundalini was born & it is

my understanding that it is younger than many of the

other systems, if my understanding is correct, how is

it then that we can be the Mother of all yogas(that

all other yogas stem)? I ask this question because I

want to be clear about the meaning of the quote (: any

insight to this question would be greatly appreciated,

thank you

in love & light,

Jiwan Shakti

Tampa, FL

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Dharam & Pieter,

I thank you both for responding to this question that

I have yet to find the answer to...sigh

& as I say this (smile) I will also say that I am

thinking that perhaps its the phrase of the question

that I am stuck on...

quote: "Kundalini Yoga is called the mother of all

Yoga's because it's the original system from which all

other Yoga's stem."

while I completely understand that the goal of "all"

yogas is to raise the Kundalini...am I to understand

then that what this phrase is refering to is that the

"kundalini" is the mother, as this is what we go back

to? The core?

Ok & what does "from which all other yoga's stem",

mean???? Please explain....

perhaps I'm being dense & like I said being stuck on

the phrasing of this...in my mind I am seeing this as

something in which we are all reaching

"towards"...(kundalini rising) not something branching

out from...which is what I feel that "stemming"

implies

"all other yoga's stem" what does that mean?

(patients please)...smiles

I really appreciate your helping me work thru this

one, I want to be clear & I look forward to the moment

when this all comes together for me & I

understand...smiles

PS Dharam, I will be at summer solstice...God willing,

& I'll come up & talk with you, perhaps this is a

conversation that is easier to be discussed in

person...I do thank you both for your time & your

patience...with many blessings,

Jiwan Shakti Kaur

Tampa FL

 

--- d h a r a m <pran-_-yogi wrote:

 

> First, the purpose of yoga, all yoga is to raise to

> the Kundalini and to

> exalt that aspect of the deep self in all it's

> permutations. These New

> Jack yogis, Fueurstein included, weren't there when

> the first person ,

> either by choice or dire necessity, made the move

> from leaning on the

> Ego (limited self), to leaning on the Infinite

> entirely for their

> support.

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Jiwan Shakti,

 

I don't think that what's being said is that "Kundalini Yoga as taught by YB" is

the mother of all yoga's...but that the complete practice of yoga, which is what

YB's system that he has taught us embodies, is the core from which other styles

of yoga were born out of.

 

I was taught that the practice of KY most recently, re-surfaced at the time of

the ten Sikh Gurus, but that it had it's foundation in the first yoga that we

see ever documented in history?

 

Like YB says...it takes something like 20 years of practicing hatha yoga...and

then several more years of pranayam work.... etc etc.... to exprience the same

effects of 2-7years of KY practice.

 

So I don't think it's such a big stretch to think that perhaps at some point

in history, as we became more separate from the remembrance of our soul and the

veil came down, that the original form of yoga (KY) in it's full potency had to

be pulled part a bit and distributed out in way that was more digestable to the

average person...so we saw the birth of "the bits and pieces" of KY....and

that's why we can see all styles of yoga out there having it's roots in

KY....posture, breathing, meditation, moving posture, held posture etc etc.

This is my speculation on it anyways....I can't prove it.

 

My teacher has said that one is called to practice KY....it is part of their

karma to be given the opportunity to practice it. Not everybody has it in their

karma and not everyone who has it in their karma is necessarily able to heed the

call either. As teachers, we've all probably seen many students over the years

hit a wall of resistance and stop their practice...some people can't move

through the resistance......or it takes them a long time to return to the

practice.

 

But ultimately, I would say that all of the other styles of yoga that we see are

a training ground, that prepare one eventually for a practice of KY, which is

considered a complete yoga, all aspects of yoga are included in it. And there

are probably other systems out there, that I am personally not aware of, that

are complete systems of yoga as well....I doubt if we have the corner on the

market!! ha ha!

 

All Light,

Sat Sangeet kaur

AB, Canada