Guest guest Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Oercommitted and overwhelmed.. Technique for OCD-The Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder Breath (OCDB) Sit with a straight spine in a comfortable position, either with the legs crossed while sitting on the floor or in a straight back chair with both feet flat on the floor. Close the eyes. Use the right thumb tip to block the end of the right nostril; the other fingers point up straight; allow the arm to relax (elbow should not be creating unnecessary tension by sticking up and out to the side). A secure plug can also be used for the right nostril. Inhale slow and deep through the left nostril; hold in long; exhale slowly and completely through the same nostril (left nostril); hold out long. The mental focus should be on the sound of the breath. Continue this pattern with a maximum time of 31 min for each sitting. Initially, begin with a comfortable rate and time, but graduate to one where the effort presents a fair challenge for each phase of the breath. Deciding how long to hold the breath in or out varies from person to person. Ideal time per complete breath cycle is 1 minute, where each section of the cycle lasts exactly 15 sec. With daily discipline, this rate of respiration can be achieved within 5 to 6 months for the full 31 min. Yogic experiments (personal communication, Yogi Bhajan) claim that 90 days of 31 min per day, using the perfected rate of one breath per minute with 15 sec per phase, will completely eliminate all OC disorders. humbly dev saroop Can anyone shed light on this? Is there a kriya that relates to "right sizing" our lives? Even when I try to simplify my life, I overcomplicate it. But mostly I have so many goals that I am constantly strung out. Lilananda Milwaukee, WI USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Drug use aside, the teaching is about the negative ego which expresses itself as being over-extended (trying to do too much or control too much) or under-extended (not doing enough or not taking command of things enough). One of the goals in the meditation system of kundalini yoga is to overcome this imbalance by uncovering what is going on inside your mind to cause this and let go of the need to over-do or under-do, over-think or under-think. It is also important to learn to do what thing at a time, solve one problem at a time, finish one thing at a time. This too is a teaching and is particularly signifant at this time because of this years numerology. If you can learn to do that this year it will pay off big time in the future. Kundaliniyoga, "Lila" <lavenderk@w...> wrote: > Sat nam > I believe that I read or heard once that Yogi Bajan said that if we feel > overwhelmed, it may relate to taking drugs. I wonder if there is a > relationship to being chronically overcommitted (and thus overwhelmed) -- ?? > Can anyone shed light on this? Is there a kriya that relates to "right > sizing" our lives? Even when I try to simplify my life, I overcomplicate it. > But mostly I have so many goals that I am constantly strung out. > Lilananda > Milwaukee, WI USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 Sat Nam, After you do the breathing exercise as described by Dev Saroop, tune into the consciousness as described by gondolf!. One step at a time, watch how you over-extend or avoid taking action and make a shift in your mind. The meditation opens the space, then you have to train your mind to take appropriate action. Sat Nam, Gururattana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Hi, I haven't written for awhile. But I was reading about how important it is to do one thing at a time, but when you have a small child it is very difficult. Your constantly being interrupted by the rest of your family. I'm not a good multi-tasker and I find myself irritated because I would love to focus on one thing but my world seems overwhelming and I could use some advice. Elaine _______________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Elaine: Is there any time day por night that you have to yourself alone? or are you too tired when you are alone and just take that time to rest? Awtar s. Rochester, NY >I would > love > to focus on one thing but my world seems overwhelming and I could use some > advice. Elaine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Elaine Gentle (cool name), Sounds like you need to Bless (wahe guru) and cultivate an inner stance of "surrender" to everything around. See the sunshine in yourself and outside your self in everyway. That is that "one thing" that you can focus on. Anchor with the breath in each moment and it will bring back glandular balance and an expanded sense of yourself. Baby pose is good as a practical exercise to cultivate surrender. 31 minutes is a common practice time. Also, there is the "Meditation to Keep Up with our Children". I have uploaded it to the "Files" area of our group. http://tinyurl.com/db76y or, if that doesn't work, try http://f2.grp.fs.com/v1/4OYiQy2cUA4v0yevkMJI6Dx6yB10Zfpa1ON77MaIhMnvaomewDf\ gAgdSy4TNvzD7fB3_3xJgFRI8_mZxAQ/keeping_up_with_children.jpg You'll need a profile to get it....no biggie. This is a golden opportunity to learn and practice Pratyahar. Do some basic full body work/warmup, at least, before sitting with this meditation. Sweating is probably pretty essential, at this point, but then totally cover up and rest for at least 11 minutes. Any other info you offer about yourself (full birthday info) could be helpful in understanding YOU. There is always one or more "bodies" (numerologically speaking) that when brought into balance can make all the difference between being in wellness and or being in total fry mode. Sat Nam, Dharam Singh Millis, MA Elaine Gentle wrote: > > Hi, I haven't written for awhile. But I was reading about how > important it > is to do one thing at a time, but when you have a small child it is very > difficult. Your constantly being interrupted by the rest of your family. > I'm not a good multi-tasker and I find myself irritated because I > would love > to focus on one thing but my world seems overwhelming and I could use > some > advice. Elaine > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Elaine, I can empathize with you COMPLETELY! My grandsons and son have been around a lot for this past week *staying overnight, etc.) and I get nothing done for ME! I understand your irritation; it is like everyone else can have a life, but me... They are gone this morning, but I am totally drained. For me to think about doing KY... thinking about it is all I will do. For now, I just want to lie down and sleep, or just veg in front of the TV ... The sad thing is, I'm to have a BBQ this evening, which I will probably postpone until next weekend. Sometimes I wonder why people (my son) are not considerate; it is like their life is more important that ,oine. Any advice? Turn my adorable grandsons 3 and 4-1/2 years away? How do I set my boundaries? Thank you. Sat Nam, Padmani Kaur - Elaine Gentle<gentle555196 Hi, I haven't written for awhile. But I was reading about how important it is to do one thing at a time, but when you have a small child it is very difficult. Your constantly being interrupted by the rest of your family. I'm not a good multi-tasker and I find myself irritated because I would love to focus on one thing but my world seems overwhelming and I could use some advice. Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 dear elaine, padmani kaur, and all the others who struggle with the demands of family... i also understand your feelings. i am a single mom and my son's father lives in korea: no alternate weekends off for me! children are a completely different demand than any other: you simply canNOT delay, put off, say no, reschedule, find someone else to do it, etc. etc. etc. this is part of the reason why sometimes months go by and i don't do any yoga at all - because with all the various demands of that child, running a household, working, connecting with friends, etc., i just can't make time for yoga too. but i've realized that then things shift, and suddenly i'm able to (and WANT TO, and even HAVE TO) carve out a few minutes or more to do something. the great thing is, yoga (and G-d, however you perceive it to be) waits. it's always here, waiting for you to be ready, and it never judges you for being away busy doing other things! i also find that what often happens to me is i will commit to doing the very simple wake up exercises (you can find them in gururattan's books: 4 simple one minute exercises to do even before getting out of bed in the morning), and then that will make me crave more... then suddenly i'm squeezing in another 3 minute meditation later in the morning...then a half hour in the afternoon... etc. etc. not everyone can find those openings in their schedule, and if you can't, elaine, please don't beat yourself up about it. if you keep cultivating your intention to do yoga, sooner or later you will! it absolutely works like that! maybe you can join gururattan's wednesday teleconference. maybe you can't stay on the line for the whole hour, or you join late, or whatever. but maybe the child decides to sleep through the whole thing, and you can put your phone on mute and do some laundry while listening in. there are a lot of ways to bring a little yoga into your life. sometimes none of them are feasible, but sometimes they are if you know they are available! also, remember, with kundalini yoga, as little as three minutes can make a change. perhaps there are some suggestions about what you should do if you only have three minutes - not 31, not even 11, but just three. i have learned that sat kriya is considered a perfect, complete kriya. maybe others will have ideas about this? if you could find 3 minutes, then you get not only the benefit of doing the yoga, but also the empowering feeling of being able to carve a little time for yourself. please remember elaine (i address myself mostly to you because i know your time crunch won't end when the visitors leave), that you deserve time for yourself. you absolutely do. everyone might grump about it, but too bad. it will make you happier, and more fun for them to be around, so in fact, you are doing it for them too. i know how hard it is. my son is 11 now but man, i remember what it was like when he was six. and three. and one and a half. and eight. and nine!! it's still hard, but it is definitely better now. he is used to his wacko mom checking out for a while to do her yoga. haha! that's a key: you just gotta train the people around you that this is how it's gonna be. YOU DESERVE IT!!! let that be your mantra for a while!! hang in there! sat nam, seattle sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 sat nam, me again, padmani kaur, i missed this question and wanted to say that, maybe you could set a particular time of day when you do your own thing? like, from 2:00 til 4:00, grandma is busy doing other stuff? or, have a chat with your son - he's an adult, after all - and set the boundaries with him instead of your little muffins. it's very important for us, as women, to train the men in our lives that no, we are not available for them 24/7, that we DO have lives of our own, and that they WILL survive for a few minutes without our continuing attention. it might help to think of it that way, instead of as a way of just making "time for yourself." or, your grandsons might like doing yoga with you! haha! kids are so cute when they do yoga! also, i keep telling myself, 'this is not forever.' some day (soon, maybe, with him being eleven), my son won't want to have anything to do with me, and then i'll miss the days of cling action. but to keep sane meanwhile, try the above maybe. free advice from seattle sue, worth what you paid for it. sat nam, seattle sue > Any advice? Turn my adorable grandsons 3 and 4-1/2 years away? How > do I set my boundaries? Thank you. > > Sat Nam, > Padmani Kaur > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 If you feel overcommitted or overwhelmed, then you have taken the first step in recognizing the imbalance. Sit and "feel" where you feel it happening in the body and just be with the feeling, without judgement and without blame to others or yourself. Just feel it. How does one set boundaries? Just set them and keep them. When in meditation, pull *your* energy back to you and consolidate it. Perhaps consider sets that strengthen the navel and throat chakras. Keep the bhanda's engaged, such as root lock, to reduce energy leakage.... I bet any set will be helpful if you reach deep within and give to yourself. When practicing, bring yourself into the present. You will empower yourself with presence. Perhaps have the family over and they can bring the meal so you can enjoy your grand kids. There is no need to turn the children away to clear a loving space for you. People are not considerate if you project inconsideration of you. Change that. Be considerate and compassionate of yourself. Project *self* love to the world and the world will respond. You will empower yourself this way. It does not seem unreasonable for the family to share the responsibilties. If they dont, then let them, but you still have your boundary firmly in place for you. There is no need to take ownership of other peoples issues. Remember, you are the most important person in your life.... Sat Nam, Diana Bellucci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Dear Padmani: Does your son know he is not being considerate? If you could just let him know what you really want, what would you say to him? If he insists, then you can say "No thank you! not this time, I already a commitment!" He'll respect you for it! Go for it! Awtar Singh Rochester, NY > Sometimes I wonder why > people (my son) are not considerate; it is like their life is more > important that mine. Any advice? Turn my adorable grandsons 3 and 4-1/2 > years away? How do I set my boundaries? Thank you. > > Sat Nam, > Padmani Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 I believe my son knows he is being inconsiderate; it is just I have spoiled him and put myself on the back burner with him, as I have done my whole life. I am trying to start anew. I want to take KY training in India in October, but I'm worried I have not had much experience practicing KY prior to my taking the 3-week class. I just started KY in June (took 2 classes prior to going to Solstice/White Tantric) and have not had many classes since. I have read a lot, but not practiced a lot. In your opinion, do you feel/believe a student should be pretty well prepared in KY prior to taking Teacher's Training? As usual, I am feeling inadequate and don't know the best way to catch up to where I need to be to undertake such a transformation. Bless you, and thank you for responding. I learn and feel a lot from the sharing in this forum. Padmani Kaur Dear Padmani: Does your son know he is not being considerate? If you could just let him know what you really want, what would you say to him? If he insists, then you can say "No thank you! not this time, I already a commitment!" He'll respect you for it! Go for it! Awtar Singh Rochester, NY > Sometimes I wonder why > people (my son) are not considerate; it is like their life is more > important that mine. Any advice? Turn my adorable grandsons 3 and 4-1/2 > years away? How do I set my boundaries? Thank you. > > Sat Nam, > Padmani Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 Dear Padmani: > I believe my son knows he is being inconsiderate. Help me understand: If you feel your son is being inconsiderate but you allow him, he is following your lead, isn't he? Then how could he know it is not OK with you? Would you like him to make the decision for you? > I want to take KY training in India in October [...] In your opinion, do > you feel/believe a student should be pretty well prepared in KY prior to > taking Teacher's Training? The teacher training does not require any prior experience with kundalini yoga, just a willingness to go through the experience (your experience as it will be like no other student's experience) of the training. At the time I took my teacher training it was the best "therapy" I had ever experienced! It still counts as a highlight in my life! > As usual, I am feeling inadequate and don't know the best way to catch > up to where I need to be to undertake such a transformation. First, I understand. There are areas in my life where I don't know what the rules are, what I may or may not do, I feel lost. Let me reassure you: Give yourself the gift of being with the flow and let go of worries. Let your journey transport you! Let it support you! You are not responsible to know ahead how to prepare for the transformation that will come to you as a result of taking the training! @:-) Do you see/understand what I am saying? Allow yourself to relax and breathe through everything. Remember only that your own joy will carry you through; worries and fears will make you agitated and tired and you will miss out on a lot if not the most important! OK? Blessings, Awtar S. Rochester, NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 Awtar S., thank you for your attention and response. Because I am an adult child of alcoholic parents and resided in foster homes the majority of my life, I doubt my decisions. I have made many decisions who have benefited others (which I really don't mind), HOWEVER, I have this sad tendency to jump and want a quick fix in my life, a quick healing (while I assist others). I LOVE KY. I know why it is there and what it can do. Thank you so much for your encouragement. You have helped another to KEEP UP along the way. God Bless You! Padmani Kaur Dear Padmani: > I believe my son knows he is being inconsiderate. Help me understand: If you feel your son is being inconsiderate but you allow him, he is following your lead, isn't he? Then how could he know it is not OK with you? Would you like him to make the decision for you? > I want to take KY training in India in October [...] In your opinion, do > you feel/believe a student should be pretty well prepared in KY prior to > taking Teacher's Training? The teacher training does not require any prior experience with kundalini yoga, just a willingness to go through the experience (your experience as it will be like no other student's experience) of the training. At the time I took my teacher training it was the best "therapy" I had ever experienced! It still counts as a highlight in my life! > As usual, I am feeling inadequate and don't know the best way to catch > up to where I need to be to undertake such a transformation. First, I understand. There are areas in my life where I don't know what the rules are, what I may or may not do, I feel lost. Let me reassure you: Give yourself the gift of being with the flow and let go of worries. Let your journey transport you! Let it support you! You are not responsible to know ahead how to prepare for the transformation that will come to you as a result of taking the training! @:-) Do you see/understand what I am saying? Allow yourself to relax and breathe through everything. Remember only that your own joy will carry you through; worries and fears will make you agitated and tired and you will miss out on a lot if not the most important! OK? Blessings, Awtar S. Rochester, NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Awtar, I have done yoga since I was a teenager. For some weird reason I was offerred free lessons in this smelly, small town I was in. My KY instructor tried to encourage me but i was messed up. The unusual thing is I quickly reach spiritual states of mind. So this morining I put on my sweat pants school before my son went to school, he is 5 and did my yoga and sang my chants and just let him crawl on me. He is probably a better yogi than me. I am older now, 46 and my son came as a great surprise but one from God that says I got keep up whether I like it or not! I'm hardly ever alone it seems so many people reach out to me even though I am just staying home making jewelry. It must be my energy and I know how to maintain I just don't do it because I am lazy. Elaine >yoga >Kundaliniyoga >Kundaliniyoga >RE: Kundalini Yoga Re: overcommitted and overwhelmed >Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:10:43 -0400 (EDT) > >Elaine: Is there any time day por night that you have to yourself alone? >or are you too tired when you are alone and just take that time to rest? >Awtar s. >Rochester, NY > > >I would > > love > > to focus on one thing but my world seems overwhelming and I could use >some > > advice. Elaine > > > > > > _______________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 Sat Nam, I tried to reach these two sites & couldn't...say's these pages cannot be found.... bummer, what book did this come out of? Perhpas I can locate it...thanks for your help (: --- d h a r a m <pran-_-yogi wrote: > Elaine Gentle (cool name), > Sounds like you need to Bless (wahe guru) and > cultivate an inner > stance of "surrender" to everything around. See the > sunshine in yourself > and outside your self in everyway. That is that "one > thing" that you can > focus on. Anchor with the breath in each moment and > it will bring back > glandular balance and an expanded sense of yourself. > Baby pose is good > as a practical exercise to cultivate surrender. 31 > minutes is a common > practice time. > Also, there is the "Meditation to Keep Up with our > Children". I have > uploaded it to the "Files" area of our group. > http://tinyurl.com/db76y > or, if that doesn't work, try > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Weird! If clicking on http://tinyurl.com/8sx9p doesn't work, then go to our Group "Files" area at Kundaliniyoga and manually look for the file entitled "Meditation to Keep Up with our Children". It's there. Sat Nam, Dharam Millis, MA wolfsister harmony wrote: > Sat Nam, I tried to reach these two sites & > couldn't...say's these pages cannot be found.... > bummer, what book did this come out of? Perhpas I can > locate it...thanks for your help (: > > --- d h a r a m <pran-_-yogi wrote: > > > Elaine Gentle (cool name), > > Sounds like you need to Bless (wahe guru) and > > cultivate an inner > > > Also, there is the "Meditation to Keep Up with our > > Children". I have > > uploaded it to the "Files" area of our group. > > http://tinyurl.com/db76y > > or, if that doesn't work, try > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Sat Nam Dharam, I couldn't open up the first link but I was able to access it thru the group files (: thanks alot! smiles with many blessings, Jiwan Shakti Tampa FL --- d h a r a m <pran-_-yogi wrote: > Weird! If clicking on http://tinyurl.com/8sx9p > doesn't work, then go > to our Group "Files" area at > Kundaliniyoga > and manually look for > the file entitled "Meditation to Keep Up with our > Children". It's there. > Sat Nam, > Dharam > Millis, MA > > > wolfsister harmony wrote: > > > Sat Nam, I tried to reach these two sites & > > couldn't...say's these pages cannot be found.... > > bummer, what book did this come out of? Perhpas I > can > > locate it...thanks for your help (: > > > > --- d h a r a m <pran-_-yogi wrote: > > > > > Elaine Gentle (cool name), > > > Sounds like you need to Bless (wahe guru) and > > > cultivate an inner > > > > > Also, there is the "Meditation to Keep Up with > our > > > Children". I have > > > uploaded it to the "Files" area of our group. > > > http://tinyurl.com/db76y > > > or, if that doesn't work, try > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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