Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Satnam everyone, I don't have a specific or rigorous routine for my yoga practice but I feel like I've become dependent on a routine of doing some exercises every morning. I worry that I should be a happy and stable person even without it - even worrying that one day I may be unable to have a daily routine (perhaps through strains of work or motherhood) and so will feel out of control in life. Or is it that we all have controls in life that keep us sane - and a yoga routine is at least a positive one? I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts! Sending warmth on a damp and windy day in London, Emily. ;-) xx _________ Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 hello,and thank for your kindly message.i like Yoga,but idont know how starting? Moderator's Note: Does anyone have any ideas as to where Pirooz should start with Kundalini yoga. The free lessons maybe? emily beckwith <e.beckwith wrote: Satnam everyone, I don't have a specific or rigorous routine for my yoga practice but I feel like I've become dependent on a routine of doing some exercises every morning. I worry that I should be a happy and stable person even without it - even worrying that one day I may be unable to have a daily routine (perhaps through strains of work or motherhood) and so will feel out of control in life. Or is it that we all have controls in life that keep us sane - and a yoga routine is at least a positive one? I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts! Sending warmth on a damp and windy day in London, Emily. ;-) xx _________ Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger. Kundalini Yoga - for the best online selection of Books, Videos and DVDs on Kundalini Yoga, based on ancient technology as brought to the West by Yogi Bhajan. Also a great range of beautiful Meditation and Mantra CDs, all with RealAudio sound clips. - visit Yoga meditation music Yoga meditation Kundalini yoga Kundalini yoga dvd Yogi bhajan Visit your group "Kundaliniyoga" on the web. Kundaliniyoga Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 As long as your routine is mobile in your schedule; you should not have to give it up. I can tell you from experence that a mother needs a thing that is only hers; and what better way to deal with the tribulations than yoga. Be reassured, if you let things flow they will find the propper place to settle. calm winds and warm thoughts. emily beckwith <e.beckwith wrote:Satnam everyone, I don't have a specific or rigorous routine for my yoga practice but I feel like I've become dependent on a routine of doing some exercises every morning. I worry that I should be a happy and stable person even without it - even worrying that one day I may be unable to have a daily routine (perhaps through strains of work or motherhood) and so will feel out of control in life. Or is it that we all have controls in life that keep us sane - and a yoga routine is at least a positive one? I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts! Sending warmth on a damp and windy day in London, Emily. ;-) xx _________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Sat Nam, Emily In my experience, daily practice keeps us elevated. We are less likely to let the negative energy we encounter daily get us down. Sometimes the negativity seemingly comes from others (like some nasty personality in your face) and sometimes it seems to rise up from our subconscious to be healed in the form of thoughts and/or emotions. We also attract more positive and enlightening internal and external experiences. I think it's ALL the same process, and that daily practice, or SADHANA, both accellerates the process and empowers us master it. As far as routines go, I think you have to focus on connecting with your inner guidance in chosing and practicing them. If you do this, you will develop an awareness of what you need to be working on. I practiced yoga for many years before discovering Kundalini Yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan. Kundalini yoga has been extremely effective for me in deepening awareness of and connection with my inner self. Ironically, I knew correct posture and how to do the breathing, locks, and mudras from an excellent Hatha teacher/friend I'd worked with. However, doing the KY sets (I use videos) has made a huge difference. As for the outside stresses like jobs and motherhood - you have to find a balance. If you can get to bed early enough, it's a lot easier and more rewarding in every respect to practice during the "ambrosial hours" (4-6a.m.) Of course, there are times when we women especially, have to modify or even take a break from our routines - and resume as our cycles allow. (I had been in a no yoga high stress slump for several years before resuming with daily Kundalini Yoga practice.) Now, with KY, I know some techniques I can practice under all sorts of circumstances. So really, it's not about self control. I think our egos want control and the ego's rebellion can trick us into confusing the need for firm, gentle discipline, with control. Daily practice is about developing awareness of and becoming our true selves, purging the dross as we go along. It is a PROCESS that will have ebbs and flows. Rome (as the saying goes) wasn't built in a day. If you fall off the wagon, pick yourself up, dust yourself off and get back on track when you can. Sometimes you need the space to be a vegetable and heal. You'd be suprised at how much you retain even after a long slump. Consistency is the key. Blessings, Linda ********************* Satnam everyone, I don't have a specific or rigorous routine for my yoga practice but I feel like I've become dependent on a routine of doing some exercises every morning. I worry that I should be a happy and stable person even without it - even worrying that one day I may be unable to have a daily routine (perhaps through strains of work or motherhood) and so will feel out of control in life. Or is it that we all have controls in life that keep us sane - and a yoga routine is at least a positive one? I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts! Sending warmth on a damp and windy day in London, Emily. ;-) xx _________ Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger. ______________________ ______________________ Kundalini Yoga - for the best online selection of Books, Videos and DVDs on Kundalini Yoga, based on ancient technology as brought to the West by Yogi Bhajan. Also a great range of beautiful Meditation and Mantra CDs, all with RealAudio sound clips. - visit ------ ------ Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Sat Nam, first question, what's wrong with becoming dependent on a yoga routine? Is it a negative dependency? Do you feel like a slave to some exercises? Or do you simply enjoy and look forward to it each day? If you decide that you do feel positive about this "dependency" then why not strengthen it by practicing something more challenging? Go beyond "some exercises" and challenge yourself to a set or meditation that is not so easy. Even the best yogi or yogini will miss a day ot two or three or four. The key is to practice devotedly enough that you will carry your positive attitudes through the negative times when you can't do what makes you happy. You can never be out of control of your own life. It is by definition yours. You simply have to decide what YOU are going to do with YOUR life. Other demands happen, so take care of your responsibilities as you have to, one of them being your spiritual discipline and pursuits. Yoga doesn't keep us sane, our practice of it in our lives does that. "Keep up" as Yogi Bhajan said many times, "and you will be kept up." Sat Nam Kundaliniyoga, emily beckwith <e.beckwith@t...> wrote: > > Satnam everyone, > > I don't have a specific or rigorous routine for my > yoga practice but I feel like I've become dependent on > a routine of doing some exercises every morning. I > worry that I should be a happy and stable person even > without it - even worrying that one day I may be > unable to have a daily routine (perhaps through > strains of work or motherhood) and so will feel out of > control in life. > > Or is it that we all have controls in life that keep > us sane - and a yoga routine is at least a positive > one? > > I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts! > > Sending warmth on a damp and windy day in London, > Emily. ;-) xx > > > > > > _________ > Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Emily, Here in my part of Virginia, USA, we are having a major drought. Send some of the damp our way, ok? I think a daily routine is kind of like cleaning house, or brushing your teeth. For me, it is a spiritual tune-up. It cleans out the stuff (physical, mental) that just being a human being walking on the earth right now brings with it. All that "clingy" noise our brains keep picking up just gets wiped clean. A daily practice "tunes" our instruments--bodies, minds, souls--so that we keep a daily connection to a bigger part of ourselves. Also, for me, it just feels mighty *&^%*(*&^!!! wonderful. Keeps me present. Doesn't make any of life's noises go away, but sure makes it easier to tune into a bigger frequency and then go out into the world with a calm center. And believe me, getting a daily practice going now will make all the times you can't practice easier to bear. Life never slows down, so yeah, sometimes we have to miss some "formal" practice, which is our foundation. But with that foundation established, you can always do what I call small daily practice. Breath of fire on the way to work (yep, even in a crowd if you are quiet about it). A mindful morning can start for me with just stretch pose even before my feet hit the floor. Sat Kriya (3 minutes) and a short meditation (7 minutes) can be done in 10 minutes. Sorry, long response to a short question. What could be wrong with your "dependent" need for daily exercise/yoga/meditation? It is your body/mind/soul telling you, take care of us. Your call to move and be moved everyday is satisfying a message coded into our very DNA. We have just forgotten how to listen. Daily practice gives us back our ears so that can hear. Sat Nam, Gurugiana Kundaliniyoga, emily beckwith <e.beckwith@t...> wrote: > > Satnam everyone, > > I don't have a specific or rigorous routine for my > yoga practice but I feel like I've become dependent on > a routine of doing some exercises every morning. I > worry that I should be a happy and stable person even > without it - even worrying that one day I may be > unable to have a daily routine (perhaps through > strains of work or motherhood) and so will feel out of > control in life. > > Or is it that we all have controls in life that keep > us sane - and a yoga routine is at least a positive > one? > > I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts! > > Sending warmth on a damp and windy day in London, > Emily. ;-) xx > > > > > > _________ > Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 The kundalini makes you feels more dynamic and takes you to a different level. Especially in the beginning! When you do a routine your day seems to go smoother and in general you reap the benefits of daily practice. Choose one set for 40 days, and see what happens. Sat and Nabhi kriya were where I started. Work the lower chakras check lesson 9 navel power on the free on line classes. This is an incredibly exciting journey stripping away the debris to the inner core of your true identity. One filled with unlimited potential. With so many bad depend dependencies out their I can say this is a good one. Sat Nam, Chris madrid emily beckwith <e.beckwith wrote:Satnam everyone, I don't have a specific or rigorous routine for my yoga practice but I feel like I've become dependent on a routine of doing some exercises every morning. I worry that I should be a happy and stable person even without it - even worrying that one day I may be unable to have a daily routine (perhaps through strains of work or motherhood) and so will feel out of control in life. Or is it that we all have controls in life that keep us sane - and a yoga routine is at least a positive one? I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts! Sending warmth on a damp and windy day in London, Emily. ;-) xx _________ Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger. Kundalini Yoga - for the best online selection of Books, Videos and DVDs on Kundalini Yoga, based on ancient technology as brought to the West by Yogi Bhajan. Also a great range of beautiful Meditation and Mantra CDs, all with RealAudio sound clips. - visit Yoga meditation music Yoga meditation Kundalini yoga Kundalini yoga dvd Yogi bhajan Visit your group "Kundaliniyoga" on the web. Kundaliniyoga Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 "I worry that I should be a happy and stable person even without it - even worrying that one day I may be unable to have a daily routine (perhaps through strains of work or motherhood) and so will feel out of control in life." Sat Nam, The above statement stimulated a few thoughts for me... If yoga is a practice that helps us to develope an awareness of our soul essence....giving us the tools that we require to begin to have a relationship with our essence and then, ultimately, it leads to communion with our essence (embodiment of our essence/soul).....then I suppose it depends on where you are in that process, as to whether the cessation of your daily "ritual" practice, would be detrimental or not to your wellbeing? I think in the beginning..."your spirtiual practice" and all the other things you do in a day remain separate......but the more you connect with your essence/soul and begin to integrate your practice into every moment of your life....the line begins to dissolve. Life becomes a yoga. All of the things you work on during meditation, such as, allowing sensations, emotions and thoughts to pass by without identifying or judging them....or experiencing insight or wisdom that comes to you...or experiencing different states of consciousness....all of "this" is going on in your "everyday life" as well...and you can choose to apply/practice your yogic skills outside of the frame of "doing yoga or meditation", in these instances. So I am saying... if you have a certain amount of skill developed around applying the meditative mind, but you aren't for some reason able to sit down and do a formal yogic practice at this time of your life.............there's still plenty of opportunity to practice "yoga" in every moment of your daily experience...by recognizing that life is a yoga and that, ultimately, what you learn during your "practice time/daily spiritual routine" is preparation, for learning to "live it on the street". At some point, in your spiritual developement, you are mean to "take your show on the road"....as in, live your consciousness. Anything in life can become a yogic opportunity if it is done with consciousness and awareness. Be present in every moment...use your powers of observation without judgment...and ask that insight and understanding come to you every moment of your life....and regardless of whether you are sitting in easy pose meditating or walking down mainstreet, you will be continuing your yogic practice. And it is, much easier said then done, if you haven't developed the meditative mind yet...but if you have, then it is possible, to make "life" your yogic practice. All Light, Sat Sangeet Kaur AB, Canada Find your next car at Canada Autos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Satnam Sat Sangeet Ji! Really your thoughts and expression what is/ should be a daily yogic routine is excellent. It shows the depth of your yogic practice in practical life. I appreciate it from my heart core and simultaneously I feel that despite , in yoga field for more than 31 years I m no where. There is no change in my life, my irritative/ negative thinking nature. thinking / indulging in sex even at age of 65. Would you kindly help and guide me for my yogic growth by suggesting on following points: 1) How to develope skill for applying the meditative mind in every moment of daily experience so as to become the life , a yoga and "live it on the street". to "take the show on the road" ..as in, live your consciousness. 2) How to develope the practice of doing the things with consciousness and awareness and to Be present in every moment and use the powers of observation without judgment...and ask that insight and understanding come to me every moment of my life...and make "life" a yogic practice. With Warm regards & Satnam, Humbly yours, R N Gupta Sat Sangeet <satsangeetkaur wrote: India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Sat Nam, It's a big topic to cover. In order to be able to apply the meditative mind, first you must develope it...and that happens through the practice of meditation and the intention to recognize and be aware of your experience while meditating. The meditative mind is the ability to witness and observe what's going on inside of you, in terms of your emotions, thoughts and feelings at any given time and be non-reactive to that. So to be able to watch it like it is on a movie screen and your are in the audience and not the character on the screen. So to be able to watch your self with some distance or perspective, without getting so wrapped up in it all. Often if you begin thinking in a particular way or desiring something specific...you'll begin fueling it with more thought (throwing gasoline on the fire)...then you'll begin to feel a certain way about it and this wraps alot of emotional energy around that line of thought.....and emotional energy acts like glue and keeps you very identified (stuck) with that line of thinking or behaving. So anytime you feel stuck in a certain way of being (which is what you have described to me)......you have to look at what kind of emotion is tied up with it and then have the intention to release the emotional tension. You do this through intention and attention. First intend to release and then open your nuetral space, where you observe and witness your thoughts and emotions, without judgement or reaction. This takes lots of practice and training, especially if the line of thinking or feeling brings up alot of (for instance) shameful or guilty feelings..or anger..or whatever uncomfortable emotion it might be...it's challenging to remain neutral in the face of intense emotions. If you can do that, the emotion will release and behind that, wisdom, insight or understanding, will arise around what kinds of thoughts are conditioning this specific experience for you. Once you touch the consciousness of it, then it begins to unravel. It's what we don't know, that holds us prisoner...once we know, we can begin to consciously work with it. The worst thing we can do is to be afraid of investigating ourselves and to not have the intention to understand ourselves and why we feel and think the ways that we do. We don't have to be afraid of our shadow. Everything that we uncover within ourselves, is transformable. It is all grist for the mill. The more we are willing to dive in and observe and become aware of the places where we are off kilter and out of alignment.....the greater the healing potential becomes. If you want to transform a certain kind of behavior....then investigate within yourself, what kinds of thinking and feeling condition that behavior. Until you are aware of that, the behavior will persist, because it is a manifestation of a certain way of thinking. To understand more about the meditative mind you could read "The Mind" by Yogi Bhajan But ultimately, begin with investigating your emotions around whatever issue is troubling you...if you get ahold of that thread, the whole sweater will begin to unravel. Whenever you meditate or practice yoga, remember to begin with an intention...if you want something to shift, then you need to begin by intending for a shift. Then as you practice or meditate pay attention to what thoughts, feelings and emotions arise. This will be direct feedback to what you need to work with in order to experience your intention manifested in your life. For example, if anger arises, set your intention to release the anger and to understand what thinking is lurking behind the energy of anger? In this way, little by little you'll make small transformations that will equal big change eventually. All Light, Sat Sangeet Find your next car at Canada Autos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Sat Sangeet did a wonderful job describing the inner work. Her description is patient and kind and that is exactly the attitude needed with oneself in order to do that work! One of the keys I have found to be useful in releasing negativity is to acknowledge to our self that we are experiencing a feeling and that we don't know why. Most people when they feel agitated would tell you that they know why they feel that way: It is because so and so did such and such, or because. But that is not the truth because the truth releases the agitation and they are still agitated, you can feel it as they describe their reason for feeling agitated. Another key is to avoid saying: I am angry, or I am depressed, or I am ashamed, or I am scared. .. because that is final. If that's what you are then no one can change that! Instead acknowledge your feeling: I feel angry, depressed, ashamed, scared. Now you have something you can work with. Accept the fact that that's what you are feeling and allow the feeling to be OK and felt! Give yourself permission! Third: we get tied up in second degree emotions (that's what I call them): anger of feeling anger, depressed of feeling depressed, ashamed for feeling shame, scared for feeling fear. There is nothing you can do with these second degree except recognize them for what they are and then welcome the first degree emotion. So if you notice you feel scared of feeling scared, notice and acknowledge the first level of fear and start being curious about it. Wow, I am feeling such and such, isn't that interesting? Where is it in my body? What is it related to? Let yourself know your feeling is OK. And finally: you are not limited by your feelings. Negative emotions are not a guide as to what you should or should not do in life. It is not because you feel scared of something that you should not get involved in it, it is not because you feel angry at someone that that means you can never see them again, or should cut them out of your life. This whole process is a process of claiming your complete freedom! Blessings, Awtar S. Rochester, NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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