Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Sat Nam Felix, Have you seen a chiropractor, yet? Please do that. You should be sure there isn't something acutely "wrong" with your vertebrae at that point, before you do something to make it worse. In the meantime you will do yourself a lot of good by doing something like the Basic Spinal Series in Sadhana Guidelines ( go/start.cgi/store/shop.html?showprod=P08001 or http://tinyurl.com/bt8yx ). If there is too much pain with this series then do the Aquarian Meditation (see below) for 40 days. How long have you been practicing kundalini Yoga? Are familiar with the Bhandas? ( http://kundaliniyoga.org/bhandas.html ) Jalandhara Bhand? Salud!, Dharam Singh Millis, MA First, make sure to Tune In properly with the Adi Mantra. (I personally like to do Japji before tuning in. It deepens the entire experience) ( kundalini yogakyt03.html ) 1 - Sat Kriya - ( http://www.sahej.com/Sat_Kriya.html ) Do 11 minutes. 2 - then Kirtan Kriya - ( kundalini yogakyt15.html ) Do 11 minutes, all aloud with navel point pumping with each syllable. 3 - Follow that with 11 minutes of Sodarshan Chakra Kriya ( http://www.sahej.com/Sodarshan.html ) End with "One minute Breath" for 11 minutes, afterward (20 secs inhale, 20 secs suspend, 20 secs exhale. One minute Breath integrates everything and one should consider following any yoga practice with it. Begin where you can and work up to 11 minutes for each part. After you feel comfortable with 11 minutes, you can slowly work up to 31 minutes for each kriya. Lay on your back at then end for 11 minutes with a conscious, rejuvenating breath at the navel, releasing from the brow point. felixe2ryhme wrote: > Sat Nam All, > This is the third time I've posted this message. Is there anyone > who can address this . Thanks > My energy is blocked at the certvicle vertebre level. I also suffer > sporadic pain and occasional waves of numbness (like when > your foot goes to sleep) at that spot and the left side of my neck > and shoulder. Any thoughts on a series that may help relieve the > problem. Thank You, > Felixe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Sat Nam Felix, Have you seen a chiropractor, yet? Please do that. You should be sure there isn't something acutely "wrong" with your vertebrae at that point, before you do something to make it worse. In the meantime you will do yourself a lot of good by doing something like the Basic Spinal Series in Sadhana Guidelines ( go/start.cgi/store/shop.html?showprod=P08001 or http://tinyurl.com/bt8yx ). If there is too much pain with this series then do the Aquarian Meditation (see below) for 40 days. How long have you been practicing kundalini Yoga? Are familiar with the Bhandas? ( http://kundaliniyoga.org/bhandas.html ) Jalandhara Bhand? Salud!, Dharam Singh Millis, MA First, make sure to Tune In properly with the Adi Mantra. (I personally like to do Japji before tuning in. It deepens the entire experience) ( kundalini yogakyt03.html ) 1 - Sat Kriya - ( http://www.sahej.com/Sat_Kriya.html ) Do 11 minutes. 2 - then Kirtan Kriya - ( kundalini yogakyt15.html ) Do 11 minutes, all aloud with navel point pumping with each syllable. 3 - Follow that with 11 minutes of Sodarshan Chakra Kriya ( http://www.sahej.com/Sodarshan.html ) End with "One minute Breath" for 11 minutes, afterward (20 secs inhale, 20 secs suspend, 20 secs exhale. One minute Breath integrates everything and one should consider following any yoga practice with it. Begin where you can and work up to 11 minutes for each part. After you feel comfortable with 11 minutes, you can slowly work up to 31 minutes for each kriya. Lay on your back at then end for 11 minutes with a conscious, rejuvenating breath at the navel, releasing from the brow point. felixe2ryhme wrote: > Sat Nam All, > This is the third time I've posted this message. Is there anyone > who can address this . Thanks > My energy is blocked at the certvicle vertebre level. I also suffer > sporadic pain and occasional waves of numbness (like when > your foot goes to sleep) at that spot and the left side of my neck > and shoulder. Any thoughts on a series that may help relieve the > problem. Thank You, > Felixe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 -- > Sat Nam Dharam Singh > 1. Have you seen a chiropractor, yet? > I live in Italy. Chiropractic is not an option. I wouldn't trust anyone here.....too new. Ironically, my brother-in-law is a chiropractor...lives in Arizona. I know don't have a lot of "cushion" in the atlas section. Seems to me like a pinched nerve. > 2. In the meantime you will do > yourself a lot of good by doing something like the Basic Spinal Series in Sadhana Guidelines > Do you mean lesson six for a flexible spine? That I do. Actually I'm in good shape except for this weak point. > 3. I'm very new to Kundalini (four months) with some Hatha experience (twoyears), but I go slow. I'm not seeki enlightenment just health and knowledge. For example I did the lesson 6 flexible spine set for 40 days and then the lesson 9 leg lifts for 40 days with no sign of a pulse at the navel center. I'm continuing with that until around x-mas. I may never find the pulse, but my center sure feels better. I do the neck lock and the full lock as well > Salud & Thank You > Feklixe2 > Firenze > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 > > > 3. I'm very new to Kundalini (four months) with some Hatha > experience (twoyears), but I go slow. I'm not seeki enlightenment > just health and knowledge. I have had a lot a trouble with this expression "enlightenment" for a very long time. It just isn't useful the way it is generally thought of. For instance, everyday and a everytime I do my Sadhana I experience some lightness, a lightening of my karmas and ama. More streamlined meaning less restriction within and less resistance from around me. That's enlightenment to me. This idea that you follow a discipline for years and years and then "Bam, on a full December moon you become a Saint" idea just doesn't float, because after you're "enlightened" then you still have to feed the cats, do your discipline and go to work. So if you're here for just health and knowledge, that's fine, just know that a lightening of your being is part of the process and vice versa. Sorry if this is disappointing ) Dharam Singh Millis, MA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 d h a r a m wrote: This idea that you follow a discipline for years and years and then "Bam, on a full December moon you become a Saint" idea just doesn't float, because after you're "enlightened" then you still have to feed the cats, do your discipline and go to work. hee, this comment reminds me of a book written by (i think) a zen practitioner. the title is, "after the ecstasy, the laundry." also, i have a new question! how do you add time to an exercise? for example, when instructions say "begin with 11 minutes a day, and gradually add to 31," how does one know what the appropriate pace is? often with a meditation, it is not a matter of physical challenge, but mental...i know i get restless or my mind wanders or some such, but that happens in the 1st minute as well as in the 11th. so, should i just add a minute a day, or every two days, or...? with something like stretch pose, well, it's a little more apparent just how long one CAN hold the posture. any light on this subject would be appreciated! new moon yesterday/today!! sat nam from sue in seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Sat naam Suelini! I think you practically answered your own question -- the amount of time to add to an exercise definitely depends on what you are practicing & how often. When I was building up to 3 minutes of stretch pose as a daily practice, I added only 10 to 20 seconds a day. Whew! For most other meditations, adding a minute a day is in general a good formula if you are doing it regularly. Remember that time you jumped from like, 11 minutes of Sodarshan Chakra Kriya up to 31 !?!! You learned from your experience, that is not a good formula Be careful especially with the single-exercise kriyas & meditations that are complete Kriyas -- like Sat Kriya -- because they are very powerful and you need to build up your nervous system slowly to be able to handle the energy you create. For exercises that you have a lot of practice doing, for example Ego Buster, you can probably add as much time as you dare to! Namaste Ranjit K. Kundaliniyoga, seattle sue <thelmasue@s...> wrote: > > > > d h a r a m wrote: This idea that you follow a discipline for years > and years and then "Bam, on a full December moon you become a Saint" > idea just doesn't float, because after you're "enlightened" then you > still have to feed the cats, do your discipline and go to work. > > > hee, this comment reminds me of a book written by (i think) a zen > practitioner. the title is, "after the ecstasy, the laundry." > also, i have a new question! how do you add time to an exercise? for > example, when instructions say "begin with 11 minutes a day, and > gradually add to 31," how does one know what the appropriate pace is? > often with a meditation, it is not a matter of physical challenge, but > mental...i know i get restless or my mind wanders or some such, but that > happens in the 1st minute as well as in the 11th. so, should i just add > a minute a day, or every two days, or...? with something like stretch > pose, well, it's a little more apparent just how long one CAN hold the > posture. any light on this subject would be appreciated! > new moon yesterday/today!! > sat nam from sue in seattle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Sat Nam Dharam This idea that you follow a discipline for years > and years and then "Bam, on a full December moon you become a Saint" Your words are not my ideas. I am new not naive. I mean to go slow, observe and accept what comes as a witness rather than strive for an ideal. I'm sure there is wisdom in your observations. Thank you for sharing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 Sat Nam Felix, I've learned not to plan, but to simply have intentions and then follow through as well as I can. Intend wholeness and rejuvenation and then allow. Once we Tune In with the Adi Mantra, whatever we THINK we're doing Yoga for is completely up for reassessment. The needs of the deep psyche and Soul take precedence. You can "intend" to go slow and/but you may still find that things move in their own way. We get what we need, whatever that is. Sometimes Love hurts and sometimes it doesn't. Doing things for shortened times and resting longer in between postures is always okay. I've made a practice of chewing thoroughly before swallowing. Yogi Bhajan has said we are free to completely "thrash" any unfamiliar teachings, including his, with our "Negative Mind" before accepting anything. The technology is that bullet proof. Direct experience is the best teacher. Please read (below) my full account and experience with the Aquarian Meditation regarding my some spinal trouble I had a few years ago. Sat Nam, Dharam Singh Millis, MA From the Archives message #21208 Kundaliniyoga/message/21208 A couple of years ago I threw my back out real bad. I could barely breath due to the pain. Stretching was out of the question! I also didn't have the time to stay home and rest like I probably should have, due to work and schedule obligations. I was also unable to do any yoga at all due to pain. What I was able to do was the "Aquarian Meditation" (directions below). This is a powerful way to re-align your spine from within your own being deep within your core energy. When we are pulled off of our center and not relating to our "essence", it seems to me our spine (con-fidence or with Fidelity) suffers on more than just an energetic level. I practiced the "Aquarian Meditation" before going off to work and was able to function pretty well throughout the day. This practice brings you into yourself very deeply and to the point that the physical body wasn't dictating the score. The pain itself was even an afterthought. A consistent practice WILL WORK MIRACLES! Be gentle. Even once you pain has subsided remember that the healing process is taking place. The key words are "Rest it, Don't Test it". Also, don't forget the emotional work. Feel and allow anything that may come up. Watch "The Color Purple" if you need to stir things up. I would also highly suggest that you came into Baby Pose (sitting on the heels and the forehead to floor with arms alongside your body) for several minutes after Sodarshan (#3) and before the One minute Breath. Then completely layout after all this for another 11 minutes. Feel free to call me for more on this 508 376-4635 Also, acute pain can be relieved by laying on your back and bringing your knees to your chest and holding this with the arms around the knees. This can be done for many minutes at a time. Once during a White Tantric we once did this for 60 minutes but I wouldn't hold it that long unless during a Tantric. Eleven minutes should be good. Lay out afterward. It feels great! Also, work with his nutrition. Glucosamine and Condroitin (sp?) are good. Golden Milk is a no-brainer (recipe below). Sat Nam, Dharam Singh Millis, MA First, make sure to Tune In properly with the Adi Mantra. ( kundalini yogakyt03.html ) 1 - Sat Kriya - ( http://www.sahej.com/Sat_Kriya.html ) Do 11 minutes. 2 - then Kirtan Kriya - ( kundalini yogakyt15.html ) Do 11 minutes, all aloud with navel point pumping with each syllable. 3 - Follow that with 11 minutes of Sodarshan Chakra Kriya ( http://www.sahej.com/Sodarshan.html ) End with "One minute Breath" for 11 minutes afterward (20 secs inhale, 20 secs suspend, 20 secs exhale) One minute Breath integrates everything and one should consider following any yoga practice with it. Begin where you can and work up to 11 minutes for each part. After you feel comfortable with 11 minutes, you can slowly work up to 31 minutes for each kriya. Lay on your back at then end for 11 minutes with a conscious, rejuvenating breath at the navel, releasing from the brow point Golden Milk Golden Milk is a drink, which is a great help for stiff joints, and is a source of lubrication for the system. This is the recipe used by practitioners of yoga who have creaking joints, lots of cracking, and pain in the knees and back from sitting in a cross-legged position. It is also really great for those who simply have a need for a deep, healing sleep. Your sleep may be so rejuvenating that your voice may be deeper and more resonant in the morning. The turmeric is good for many ailments including liver trouble. It is prepared in two parts: (1) Prepare a golden yellow turmeric paste by taking a 1/4 cup of turmeric powder to 1/2 cup of pure water and simmer for 8 minutes. It will form a thick paste. There is an important reaction that takes place at 8 minutes. This paste will be used for the next 40 days, so store it in a jar in the refrigerator. (2) After the paste is made, once daily for 40 days, for each cup of Golden Milk you want, blend together 1 cup of raw milk 1 teaspoon of almond oil, sesame or any vegetable oil, 1/4 teaspoon of the turmeric paste as prepared above and honey to taste. While stirring on a low heat, bring the milk just to the boiling point. The mixture may be then blended in an electric blender to make a beautiful foamy drink. I recommend serving with a little cinnamon and/or a few dashes of nutmeg. Pretend you're at Starbucks. More info on Turmeric http://www.healthy.net/scr/column.asp?PageSource=index&ColumnId=18&action=print <http://www.healthy.net/scr/column.asp?PageSource=index&ColumnId=18&action=print\ > felixe2ryhme wrote: > > Sat Nam Dharam > This idea that you follow a discipline for years > > and years and then "Bam, on a full December moon you > become a Saint" > Your words are not my ideas. I am new not naive. I mean to go > slow, observe and accept what comes as a witness rather than > strive for an ideal. I'm sure there is wisdom in your observations. > Thank you for sharing them. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 >d h a r a m <pran-_-yogi >Kundaliniyoga >Kundaliniyoga >Re: Kundalini Yoga Block (spinal trouble) >Wed, 02 Nov 2005 08:36:41 -0500 > > > > I truly understand your feelings about enlightment, however carrying the inner peace of your higher self is what your trying to obtain. This comes about with total trust. How much you believe and trust come from your own ability to be neutral and at peace when heady situations come. I have experienced states where cooking dinner and taking care of my kid were quite blissful. Why me? Who knows? It is like living on two different dimensions, and the more you teach your body and your emotional body that experiencing states of higher self are ok the more you can integrate it into daily life. Small measures count, no matter what you are much bigger than you think. Than your emotional body thinks, teaching ourselves of new ways of dealing with human life, and we are humans, is the key. How far you are willing to go to overcome inertia and be filled with your true self. This is the lesson I learn over and over. When my husband is yelling at me and my kid is demanding, how willing am I to remain in a state of peace. My higher self tells me inner peace can be touched by nothing. This is my goal. I hope this helps, Sat Nam, Elaine _______________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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