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Hello everyone, I have ordered the song of the sacred gong. My question

is...when and how do I use this c.d. I have checked the archives but

really didn't get an answer. Thank You for your time

 

 

with regards...Hari Nam Kaur

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Hari Nam Kaur ji.,

You are free to use the gong after you have done your yoga and are

in your layout. Let the sound penetrate and carry you into that big

sense of Prana that connects you with all. After this I suggest you do

some meditation to bring everything together.

Very few sets will have actual instructions to use the Gong so it is

up to you to choose when to do so. That said you must NOT use the gong

with someone who has epilepsy. Additionally, play it loud enough to

challenge your sense of comfort. Let it be something that you must

stretch and adjust to. If your ears hurt then use earplugs, as your body

will still get a lot from the experience.

BTW, the Archives are full of info regarding the Gong but there are

still a few questions that need to be asked.

Oh, one other thing. I have at times just let the Cd play in the

background while at home. The effects are soothing even then.

All the Zest,

Dharam Singh

Millis, MA <----> Oregon

 

bliss462003 wrote:

 

>Hello everyone, I have ordered the song of the sacred gong. My question

>is...when and how do I use this c.d. I have checked the archives but

>really didn't get an answer. Thank You for your time

>

>

>with regards...Hari Nam Kaur

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Sat Nam Ji,

so cool that this is being brought up because we were

just talking about the gong...

I am curious...in our teachers manual the instructions

say to use the gong between 11-31 minutes

is 31 minutes the "max" that is recommend ?

Would more be too much for the nervous system to

handle?

Intuitively I feel that for beginners 11 min would be

enough...

what are your thoughts...

also,I have seen a few people have adverse reactions

to the gong, where one felt a black thick cloud come

over them & they felt smothered & couldn't

breathe...another felt frightful so strongly that she

had to leave the room...another felt so uncomfortable

within herself that she sat up & said she couldn't

handle it & started crying...these events did not

happen all at once in one sitting,they were something

I witnessed at different times...

in one instance I recommended that my friend buy the

tape & do it on her own & see if that would help her

gently face up to her fear of it because whenever the

Gong would be played she would walk out & not even

want to deal with it...

my question is, when these sort of things happen in

class do we encourage them to lay back down & try &

work thru it,be with it, perhaps to breakthrough...I

ask because I have never played a CD with the Gong in

class, what I witnessed was when I participated & it

was with the Gong being played live...(just trying to

give you all the details)

I would like to also add that when I have layed out

with the Gong, for me personally it has always been a

positive & very powerful experience. I felt so good

afterwards... I want to mention this as to not deter

others from trying it, everyone reacts/responds to

things differently...

& I ask these questions because as a teacher I want to

be prepared & want to know how to respond to a

situation like this with grace...

in light & love Jiwan Shakti

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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the Song of the Sacred Gong is said to open the subconscious mind to

meditative states in a way superior to that of any other instrument.

 

the gong works on a molecular level, raising spiritual energy, and the mind

has absolutely no defense against it.

 

 

 

The essential is to be in a meditative state.

 

I use it, daily, [very loud] after my set of KY [ideal for meitation].

 

the audio system should be powerfull to vibrate your body.

 

sat nam

 

Nabil M. Rizqalla

 

Beirut Lebanon

 

 

 

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"d h a r a m" <pran--_--yogi

<Kundaliniyoga>

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:13 AM

Re: Kundalini Yoga gong

 

 

> Hari Nam Kaur ji.,

> You are free to use the gong after you have done your yoga and are

> in your layout. Let the sound penetrate and carry you into that big

> sense of Prana that connects you with all. After this I suggest you do

> some meditation to bring everything together.

> Very few sets will have actual instructions to use the Gong so it is

> up to you to choose when to do so. That said you must NOT use the gong

> with someone who has epilepsy. Additionally, play it loud enough to

> challenge your sense of comfort. Let it be something that you must

> stretch and adjust to. If your ears hurt then use earplugs, as your body

> will still get a lot from the experience.

> BTW, the Archives are full of info regarding the Gong but there are

> still a few questions that need to be asked.

> Oh, one other thing. I have at times just let the Cd play in the

> background while at home. The effects are soothing even then.

> All the Zest,

> Dharam Singh

> Millis, MA <----> Oregon

>

> bliss462003 wrote:

>

>>Hello everyone, I have ordered the song of the sacred gong. My question

>>is...when and how do I use this c.d. I have checked the archives but

>>really didn't get an answer. Thank You for your time

>>

>>

>>with regards...Hari Nam Kaur

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Kundalini Yoga - for the best online

> selection of Books, Videos and DVDs on Kundalini Yoga, based on ancient

> technology as brought to the West by Yogi Bhajan. Also a great range of

> beautiful Meditation and Mantra CDs, all with RealAudio sound clips.

> - visit

> Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Nabil,my name is richard jones.My question is,where to buy ..the song of

the sacret heart? Also,any info on its use would be appreciated.Thank you.

richard jones rjones6134

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"Nabil M Rizqallah" <nabilriz

<Kundaliniyoga>

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:41 AM

Re: Kundalini Yoga gong

 

 

>

>

> the Song of the Sacred Gong is said to open the subconscious mind to

> meditative states in a way superior to that of any other instrument.

>

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Hey there Jiwan Shakti,

It would be great if Gurucharan Singh would re-release his book on

The Gong. I have a copy and will respond to your questions partially

with quotes from that book for reasons of time.

Oh, one thing that may have a bearing on the gong experience is the type

and size of Gong.

It has been taught that we need to use a "full chakra" gong. That is a

gong that is a minimum of 28 inches in diameter. This larger sized gongs

will balance the 'lower" chakras. Additionally, Paiste has many gong

types (eg. Moon, Earth.....) but the default choice is to get the

"Symphonic" gong.

In LA, Yoga West has a 36" and Golden Bridge has a 40" or 48". They

absolutely ROCK!

One more thing. Play softly to begin with, building to a peak and stay

close at the level of intensity, and after several minutes build to

another, higher peak and then plateau there for a while, and then take

it a notch up for a while. You can steadily come down from there

finishing with soft, long sounds. Also, never strike a gong from a 90

degree angle. It's an assault and an insult. Strike with a circular,

glancing motion.

Other thoughts below, gotta run.

Sat Nam,

Dharam

on the road............

 

 

wolfsister harmony wrote:

 

>Sat Nam Ji,

>so cool that this is being brought up because we were

>just talking about the gong...

>I am curious...in our teachers manual the instructions

>say to use the gong between 11-31 minutes

>is 31 minutes the "max" that is recommend ?

>

>

The way you play is more important than how long you play. You must play

in a way that feels rich and creamy to you! If you are in the zone, and

it feels good to you then you have to know that all is right. Others

will have that same experience unless they have an awful lot "on board".

 

"The master player of the gong links himself and attunes his mind to the

power of the original sound current.

 

The proper way to link the mind and the subtle body to play the gong in

kundalini yoga is to give a prayer. The prayer can be done internally or

out loud. The prayer has three steps to it. You accomplish each step by

reciting a mantra. Each mantra relates to a different level of your

being. The three mantras in sequence are:

 

Ad Gurey Nameh - I bow/invoke the teacher who exists at the beginning

 

Jugad Gurey Nameh - I bow to the teacher who teaches through all times

 

Sat Gurey Nameh - I bow to the teacher who teaches from the truth

 

Siri Guru Devay Nameh - I bow to the unseen subtle teacher of all

 

 

Ong Namo - I bow to the infinite creator of all

 

Guru Dev Namo - I bow to the divine subtle teacher who guides my soul

 

 

 

Ad Such -The truth that existed before beginnings

 

Jugad Such - The truth that exists through all time and circumstances

 

Haibhee Such -The truth that exists at this moment

 

Nanak Hosee Bhee Such - That truth which Nanak's mind sees will ever be true

 

The first mantra is called a Mangalacharan Mantra. This means it is a

celebration of the qualities of God. It is an acknowledgment of

gratitude and happiness. It invokes the mind to bow before the teacher

and to accept the world as a teaching and a blessing. It relates to the

daily experience of living on the earth. It is a witness to the joys and

sorrows, the successes and failures, the births and deaths that make up

the richness of our personal encounter of life. It celebrates that

vastness and asks to be taught and guided with each sensation, challenge

and moment. The first mantra gives you peace and centeredness. It is a

Bhakti Mantra - a mental projection of devotion and acceptance of the

gift of life and an appreciation of this moment of opportunity where you

may play the gong.

 

"The most sublime instrument of the Yogi is the Gong. It is a musical

instrument, a healing tool for the nervous system and a cauldron in

which you can create alchemical blends of qualities that open and

develop the Inner Self. Yogi Bhajan has asked that each ashram and yoga

center have a gong and play it regularly. He said it would help repair

the ravages of drugs in the nervous system. The sound of the gong

creates deep relaxation, releases you from the torrent of thoughts and

stimulates the glandular system to a higher level of functioning. Each

student of kundalini yoga is encouraged to become familiar with the

basic idea, use and experience of the gong."

 

 

>Intuitively I feel that for beginners 11 min would be

>enough...

>what are your thoughts...

>also,I have seen a few people have adverse reactions

>to the gong, where one felt a black thick cloud come

>over them & they felt smothered & couldn't

>breathe...another felt frightful so strongly that she

>had to leave the room...another felt so uncomfortable

>within herself that she sat up & said she couldn't

>handle it & started crying...these events did not

>happen all at once in one sitting,they were something

>I witnessed at different times...

>

>

"The gong impacts the body and its meridians. It releases blocks,

reduces tension and stimulates circulation. The result of this is a

reorganization of the emotional energy and feelings that are tied

into the body structure.

 

We hold attitudes toward our bodies and ourselves. These attitudes

are recorded by habitual body postures. If the energy changes or the

posture changes, there is an often an intense useful emotional flow

in the body. During a gong meditation or during the relaxation

afterwards some people may cry, feel weightless or laugh

uncontrollably. Relax. The release of feelings is a normal process

in Gong meditation. Play a meditation tape and give the person some

water, a tissue and a little conversation.

 

The gong changes the feelings that are blocked by cutting the

thoughts that sustain and recreate the feelings. As a person comes

back to normal, they notice a great difference between their current

bodily feelings and the ones they are used to. This can be

frightening, arousing, exciting or delightful. That will depend on

the individual.

 

Inform the students, before playing a long deep gong meditation, to

listen to the gong by relaxing the muscles and letting the sound of

the gong penetrate the body and guide the mind. If they tighten the

muscles and try to fight the natural process of change that occurs,

they may feel tired or irritated by the gong's strong pulsation."

 

I will encourage people to place their hands, fingers crossed, on their

navel point. Also, have them slightly roll their closed eyes downward

and then to actually NOT TRY to focus. To let go of the need to go

visual and to let their other senses engage and move to the fore. The

eyes relate to the Sympathetic (fear, fight or flight). The sound of the

gong is working to balance the parasympathetic, so the more a person can

do/not to allow, the more they can have some sense of embracing the

experience rather than having the mental frame that this something that

is being done TO them. This same shift in focus applies throughout many

of the actions during one's Kundalini practice.

 

>in one instance I recommended that my friend buy the

>tape & do it on her own & see if that would help her

>gently face up to her fear of it because whenever the

>Gong would be played she would walk out & not even

>want to deal with it...

>

>

Good idea if the previous approach doesn't work.

Lastly, I suggest that people make to keep themselves hydrated up 'til

class time, but not much that they can't get through a 2 hour class.

 

>my question is, when these sort of things happen in

>class do we encourage them to lay back down & try &

>work thru it,be with it, perhaps to breakthrough...I

>ask because I have never played a CD with the Gong in

>class, what I witnessed was when I participated & it

>was with the Gong being played live...(just trying to

>give you all the details)

>

>

 

> I would like to also add that when I have layed out

>with the Gong, for me personally it has always been a

>positive & very powerful experience. I felt so good

>afterwards... I want to mention this as to not deter

>others from trying it, everyone reacts/responds to

>things differently...

>& I ask these questions because as a teacher I want to

>be prepared & want to know how to respond to a

>situation like this with grace...

>in light & love Jiwan Shakti

>

>

"The most sublime instrument of the Yogi is the Gong. It is a

musical instrument, a healing tool for the nervous system and a

cauldron in which you can create alchemical blends of qualities that

open and develop the Inner Self. Yogi Bhajan has asked that each

ashram and yoga center have a gong and play it regularly. He said it

would help repair the ravages of drugs in the nervous system. The

sound of the gong creates deep relaxation, releases you from the

torrent of thoughts and stimulates the glandular system to a higher

level of functioning. Each student of kundalini yoga is encouraged

to become familiar with the basic idea, use and experience of the gong"

 

 

>

>

 

 

 

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Absolutely! Sometimes I feel it deeply, and sometimes it's more subtle.

The experience of integration is going to be different as the player of

the gong can't "dis-corporate" as can the folks who are receiving the

experience while on their back.

Dharam

 

Karin wrote:

 

>Do the effects of the gong apply as well to the one playing it?

>Sat Nam, Prithi

>

>

 

 

 

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Hello,richard jones here.my question is,where to buy a good gong? Also,is

there any cds you could recommend? Thank You .ps your letter was excellent

on gongs

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"d h a r a m" <pran--_--yogi

<Kundaliniyoga>

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:31 PM

Re: Kundalini Yoga gong

 

 

> Hey there Jiwan Shakti,

> It would be great if Gurucharan Singh would re-release his book on

> The Gong. I have a copy and will respond to your questions partially

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---- Original Message ----

"richard jones" <rjones6134

<Kundaliniyoga>

Friday, January 20, 2006 5:06 PM

Re: Kundalini Yoga gong

 

>...

> Also,is

> there any cds you could recommend?

 

These are some cds i know:

 

"Song of the Sacred Gong" - Sat Jiwan Singh

"Therapeutic Gong" - Dr. Hari Simran Singh Khalsa

"Sun Gong" - Sotantar Simrat Singh

"Earth Planet Gong" - Sotantar Simrat Singh

 

AC Sujan Singh

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www.inzona.com/jap

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Richard,

the subject CD is entitled "song of the sacred gong"

it is available online at yogatech.com.

I strongly recommend it for meditation,

provided you have a good audio system &.., loud very loud.

sat nam

Nabil Rizqallah

Beirut Lebanon

-

 

> Hello,richard jones here.my question is,where to buy a good gong? Also,is

> there any cds you could recommend? Thank You .ps your letter was

> excellent

> on gongs

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Sat Nam Richard,

I got my gong on line at musiciansfriend.com

They have both Paiste and Zildjian. I had shopped around for awhile

and they seemed to have the best prices. I got the 36 inch Zildjian

and it is wonderful.

 

Kundaliniyoga, "richard jones" <rjones6134@c...>

wrote:

>

> Hello,richard jones here.my question is,where to buy a good gong?

Also,is

> there any cds you could recommend? Thank You .ps your letter was

excellent

> on gongs

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Dear Nabil,

 

I hope you got my email to contact Jai Deva Kaur in Beirut. You will have

another companion in your KY world.

sylviedeva

 

Blessings,

 

Gururattana :+)

 

 

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"Nabil M Rizqallah" <nabilriz

<Kundaliniyoga>

Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:02 AM

Re: Kundalini Yoga gong

 

 

> Richard,

> the subject CD is entitled "song of the sacred gong"

> it is available online at yogatech.com.

> I strongly recommend it for meditation,

> provided you have a good audio system &.., loud very loud.

> sat nam

> Nabil Rizqallah

> Beirut Lebanon

> -

>

>> Hello,richard jones here.my question is,where to buy a good gong? Also,is

>> there any cds you could recommend? Thank You .ps your letter was

>> excellent

>> on gongs

>

Kundalini Yoga - for the best online

> selection of Books, Videos and DVDs on Kundalini Yoga, based on ancient

> technology as brought to the West by Yogi Bhajan. Also a great range of

> beautiful Meditation and Mantra CDs, all with RealAudio sound clips.

> - visit

> Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Gururattana,

Kindly give me Jai Diva Kaur data in Beirut so I could contact him or, give

him my e-mail

nabilriz.

 

Liberty & Peace

Nabil Rizqallah

Beirut Lebanon

 

 

-

 

Re: Kundalini Yoga gong

 

 

> Dear Nabil,

>

> I hope you got my email to contact Jai Deva Kaur in Beirut. You will have

> another companion in your KY world.

>

>

> Blessings,

>

> Gururattana :+)

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