Breathing issues and meditation, numerology, fasting

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Sat Nam,

 

Originally, I wrote to Dharam for a bit of insight on this. He recommended

that I post to the this list...

 

I would be very grateful for any help or advice. I have practiced KY on

and off for about a year now (more off, than on). My flexibility

is not at issue - it is the breathing/body connection that always impedes

my progress. I have a congenital lung condition, which makes my

practice somewhat difficult at times(wheezing, shortness of breath,

limited lung capacity). It's pretty hard to meditate or practice

pranayam when you're wheezing punches the silence like a loud clap of

thunder. Has anyone else have a similar issue that they've

encountered and resolved? In the past, I've have had Acupuncture, TCM &

currently take some Ayurvedic supplements (Triphala, Shilajit,

Chywannaprash), my lungs and overall health are improving and I feel that

KY as a regular practice would be vital. Where do I start?

 

Also, I'm not sure how to interpret my numerology. Part of my practice for

'Soul of 10' is to recite the Jap Sahib, how does that help

when I don't even understand what I'm reciting?

 

My numerology is:

SOUL OF 10

KARMA OF 5

GIFT OF 8

DESTINY OF 9

PATH OF 6

 

Am interested in the cleanse, however I was diagnosed with hypoglycemia -

though that has improved since I did Panchakarma last summer.

Is it still wise to practice a fast with this condition? Anyone had any

experience with fasting and hypoglycemia?

 

Thanks for any help in advance.

Peace, Love and Laughter ~

 

--

Debra

Potomac Falls, VA

 

 

 

 

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Hey, Sat Nam Deb,

Some responses below

 

Deb Breton wrote:

 

>Sat Nam,

>

>Originally, I wrote to Dharam for a bit of insight on this. He

recommended

>that I post to the this list...

>

>I would be very grateful for any help or advice. I have practiced KY on

>and off for about a year now (more off, than on). My flexibility

>is not at issue - it is the breathing/body connection that always

impedes

>my progress. I have a congenital lung condition, which makes my

>practice somewhat difficult at times(wheezing, shortness of breath,

>limited lung capacity). It's pretty hard to meditate or practice

>pranayam when you're wheezing punches the silence like a loud clap of

>thunder. Has anyone else have a similar issue that they've

>encountered and resolved? In the past, I've have had Acupuncture,

TCM &

>currently take some Ayurvedic supplements (Triphala, Shilajit,

>Chywannaprash), my lungs and overall health are improving and I feel

that

>KY as a regular practice would be vital. Where do I start?

>

 

Can you ask your TCM practitioner how much Liver meridian was an issue

for you?

If is is/was, pelvic lifts would be a great help. Do it long and slow

and in the "up" position inhale and tighten the butt muscles. Contract

them, squeeze more, and relax the body down as you exhale. You repeat

a coupe of times. Check you energy level after this. Play with it.

You should find meditation and Pranayam a lot easier with some

preparation.

 

>

>Also, I'm not sure how to interpret my numerology. Part of my

practice for

>'Soul of 10' is to recite the Jap Sahib, how does that help

>when I don't even understand what I'm reciting?

>

 

Often times our brains are our worst enemy. It's our preconceptions,

conditioned responses and habitual modes that have us operating in a

way that don't allow for an expressive outlet for our feelings and

emotions and our Souls get cheated. Guru Gobind, in his "poem" is able

to give expression to that aspect of the human psyche that knows no

defeatism. If you can imagine an area in your life where you think

courage would be of help, recite Jaap Sahib. If you have any anger

that is inner directed (depression), reciting this "poem" will help

transform that into a fire for creating success in all your doings.

You can read it in English to understand it, somewhat, but it is

through pronouncing and enunciating it in Gurmukhi that the meridians

in your mouth, glands in your brain and the whole nervous system gets

it. This comes with chanting Jaap Sahib regularly and lovingly. As

with many languages Gurmukhi loses something in the tranlation.

How is your Yoga practice?

Is Archer pose part of it ? ? ?

 

>

>My numerology is:

>SOUL OF 10

>KARMA OF 5

>GIFT OF 8

>DESTINY OF 9

>PATH OF 6

>

>Am interested in the cleanse, however I was diagnosed with

hypoglycemia -

>though that has improved since I did Panchakarma last summer.

>

Bow pose can be help, but a complete Sadhana will be your best friend.

You spoke of Lung problems. According to Chinese teachings the

Pancreas/Spleen transports the energy in food up to the lungs. Here

prana, the energy of the breath, combines with it to form the

essential human energy that nourishes the whole body. If the

Pancreas/Spleen meridian is damaged due to worry, and excessive intake

of sweets, or obsession, this process of food transformation will be

hindered. In this condition a person will be weak, forgetful, worried,

or have digestive problems.

I wouldn't recommend fasting for you, and certainly not online.

Consider the millet diet if you want to address this issue of blood

sugar imbalance. Check it at http://kundaliniyoga.org/kyt23.html

BTW, there is great value in the doing "the Cleanse" and there is very

little reason you have to worry about low blood sugar if you modify

the last phase a bit, perhaps. Throughout the cleanse you are drinking

veggie/fruit juice and all the alkaline producing foods you can fit in

to your schedule. At no point need you go more that 2 hours without

solid food intake until the last phase and then you are drinking lots

of juices.

"The Cleanse" is not a fast.

 

Sat Nam,

Dharam

Millis, MA

 

>Is it still wise to practice a fast with this condition? Anyone had any

>experience with fasting and hypoglycemia?

>

>Thanks for any help in advance.

>Peace, Love and Laughter ~

>

>--

>Debra

>Potomac Falls, VA

>

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Sat Nam Dharam,

 

As for sadhana... started doing nahbi kriya with everyone (thanks to

Seattle Sue!) and that helped me get my butt in gear to

do some other things as well.

 

Yes, I do archer pose as part of my reg. practice too, we can never have

too many tools for eradicating fear! No, I don't do

bow pose as part of my practice. Does it matter what 'sequence' I do the

kriya/pose's in? I've been doing the pelvic lifts as

suggested and it seemed as though I had more energy today than in many,

many months WAHE GURU - thank you! I no longer see my

TCM doc, but at the time of treatments, my kidney essence was extremely

low, not sure if this has any bearing on the liver

meridian.

 

I understand now, thanks to you and others, the importance of saying the

Jaap Sahib in Gurmukhi, though I'm not sure if I am

reciting it correctly. Is there a CD I can recite along with, to ensure I

have the correct enunciation? Either way I will keep

plugging along with it, a tall order with someone who admittedly has made

little progress of 'keeping up'...

 

Lastly, I would like to do 'The Cleanse', originally I thought it involved

fasting glad you pointed that out. Can you post or

send me off-list the info on where to get it?

 

Thanks again Dharam!

 

--

Peace,

Deb

 

http://thedebs.com

 

 

 

 

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wow, deb!! you are awesome!!

and guess what everybody? i am STILL doing nabhi kriya! today is day 13

- is that possible?! why is the second exercise SO HARD?!?!?!? OMIGOD!!!

i'm trying to tell myself it will get easier.........only can do 2

minutes at this point......

also, today was day 40 of sodarshan chakra kriya. i think i'm gonna keep

going! i'm up to 22 minutes and think i'll work up to 31. i had a class

once here in seattle with brad and he said, as we were struggling to get

through a couple of minutes of stretch pose, "give yourself this

opportunity!" i hear his voice every time i'm trying to get through

something hard. why not do it and see what happens? if you give up,

you'll never know!

sat nam jis!!

xo,

seattle sue

 

 

Deb Breton wrote:

 

>

>Sat Nam Dharam,

>

>As for sadhana... started doing nahbi kriya with everyone (thanks to

>Seattle Sue!) and that helped me get my butt in gear to

>do some other things as well.

>

>

>

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Sat Nam Seattle Sue!

 

It is YOU who is awesome. I'm so grateful to you for suggesting we all do

Nabhi kriya, I printed the names of our group and sent positive energy

along with some wishes for us ALL to be succesful in our sadhana! Yes -

and wow, you're right, the second exercise is a struggle, I am STILL at

only 1 minute on that one, on my first attempts I was lucky to do 34

seconds! Oh my, talk about a weenie:)

 

Congrats on your 40 days of sodarshan kriya, still building up my lung

capacity to be able to do it. So, you go girl!!!!!

 

In any case, I seem to REALLY be getting something out of my practice,

much MUCH more than in the past(must be the pelvic lifts). Also added

chanting, that is so powerful - whoa, I'm actually CRAVING it midday now -

is that normal or what??!!

 

Made myself a little note for the yoga room: "give yourself this

opportunity" - this is goood... Thank you.

--

Peace,

Deb

 

http://thedebs.com

 

 

Re: Re: Breathing issues and meditation, numerology, fasting

 

wow, deb!! you are awesome!!

and guess what everybody? i am STILL doing nabhi kriya! today is day 13

- is that possible?! why is the second exercise SO HARD?!?!?!? OMIGOD!!!

i'm trying to tell myself it will get easier.........only can do 2

minutes at this point......

also, today was day 40 of sodarshan chakra kriya. i think i'm gonna keep

going! i'm up to 22 minutes and think i'll work up to 31. i had a class

once here in seattle with brad and he said, as we were struggling to get

through a couple of minutes of stretch pose, "give yourself this

opportunity!" i hear his voice every time i'm trying to get through

something hard. why not do it and see what happens? if you give up,

you'll never know!

sat nam jis!!

xo,

seattle sue

 

 

 

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Sat Nam All:

 

I have stalled Nabhi Kriya until 03-13 when I am to begin a new 40 day

Kriya for teacher training. I have done it a few times, taught it to 2

amazing women Wednesday evening and am looking forward to beginning the

commitment in earnest. Any late bloomers are welcome to join me.

 

Sodarshan Chakra Kriya is amazing. I thought it would take a while to

build lung capacity as well, but I found that just relaxing into the

retained breath was not at all difficult. My mind's anticipation was

the problem!

 

I am loving this process and the support and wisdom of this group. No

one here is a weenie!

 

Blessings,

Guru Gopal

 

 

On Thursday, March 9, 2006, at 01:56 PM, Deb Breton wrote:

 

>

> Sat Nam Seattle Sue!

>

> It is YOU who is awesome. I'm so grateful to you for suggesting we all

> do

> Nabhi kriya, I printed the names of our group and sent positive energy

> along with some wishes for us ALL to be succesful in our sadhana! Yes -

> and wow, you're right, the second exercise is a struggle, I am STILL at

> only 1 minute on that one, on my first attempts I was lucky to do 34

> seconds! Oh my, talk about a weenie:)

>

> Congrats on your 40 days of sodarshan kriya, still building up my lung

> capacity to be able to do it. So, you go girl!!!!!

>

> In any case, I seem to REALLY be getting something out of my practice,

> much MUCH more than in the past(must be the pelvic lifts). Also added

> chanting, that is so powerful - whoa, I'm actually CRAVING it midday

> now -

> is that normal or what??!!

>

> Made myself a little note for the yoga room: "give yourself this

> opportunity" - this is goood... Thank you.

> --

> Peace,

> Deb

 

 

 

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Deb Breton wrote:

 

Sat Nam Dharam,

 

Yes, I do archer pose as part of my reg. practice too, we can never have

too many tools for eradicating fear! No, I don't do

bow pose as part of my practice. Does it matter what 'sequence' I do the

kriya/pose's in? I've been doing the pelvic lifts as

suggested and it seemed as though I had more energy today than in many,

many months WAHE GURU - thank you!

 

Hi Deb, sorry for taking so long to respond.

You're doing Archer as a warm up, or as part of a set? If as part of a

warm up, let it be the last in a series before your main set. End it on each

side by closing the eyes, inhaling and suspending the breath. Remain in

posture for 15 seconds and then exhale. Repeat this breath sequence 2 more

times. When done on both sides come into Baby Pose for a couple of minutes.

Completely surrender. Archer Pose establishes your innate radiance and royal

courage so that the rest of our practice is processed from that perspective

and thus we will be more capable of of embracing, penetrating and completely

moving through challenges brought up by our practice. I do Archer with

Breath of Fire. You can also play a recording of Jaap Sahib to help

cultivate this aspect. and balance the Tenth Body (Radiant Body).

I had suggested Bow Pose as it is one of those postures that opens up

blockages in the diaphragm and balances the Pancreas/Spleen meridian. This

will help you with your Hypoglycemia. Do it several times a day if you like

but, at least, do it as part of your warm-ups. As far as in what sequence,

if pressed I would say do it after the Pelvic lifts which open the Liver

Meridian and lungs. Keep your knees from spreading too much and be really

present with your mid-section. Completely connect and allow yourself be

subjected to the experience. Lean on the breath.

 

I no longer see my

TCM doc, but at the time of treatments, my kidney essence was extremely

low, not sure if this has any bearing on the liver

meridian.

 

Kidney, Liver and Heart are the three main "blood" organs and so imbalances

in one will manifest in the other.

 

I understand now, thanks to you and others, the importance of saying the

Jaap Sahib in Gurmukhi, though I'm not sure if I am

reciting it correctly. Is there a CD I can recite along with, to ensure I

have the correct enunciation? Either way I will keep

plugging along with it, a tall order with someone who admittedly has made

little progress of 'keeping up'...

 

Is it Japji Sahib OR Jaap Sahib you are working with? At any rate a

recording is absolutely essential if you have no one teaching you proper

pronunciation.

There may be a recording at Yogatech.com. My favorite is by Sardarni Jasbir

Kaur and then I like Hari Dharam Kaur after that.

 

Lastly, I would like to do 'The Cleanse', originally I thought it involved

fasting glad you pointed that out. Can you post or

send me off-list the info on where to get it?

 

Many postings on this. Also in the "Files Area" a pdf file has been

uploaded entitled "Arise and Shine".

I am on the road and so I am using computers other than my own. Please also

do a search in the Archives for "Arise and Shine"..

 

Sat Nam,

Dharam

MA <--> OR

 

P.S.

One day you I may call you about lathes and wood. This is something I have

had a fantasy about..

 

Thanks again Dharam!

 

--

Peace,

Deb

 

http://thedebs.com

 

 

 

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Sat Nam, Deb,

 

I meant to reply a bit ago :-) : About your reciting of Jaap Sahib:

I also have a Soul of 10 so that particular bani is recommended for

me in the same way, as well. I began working with it by listening

and reciting with an audio tape called "Jaap Sahib Learning Tape" by

Ram Das Kaur Khalsa. It is an OLD tape & it is only on tape -- not

yet released on CD, maybe never will be???? But the pronunciation is

slow enough so that you can hear each syllable & really distinguish

the sounds. I then bought the Bani Pro 2 CD set & worked with that

version of Jaap for awhile --it's a faster tempo. I like Hari Dharam

Kaur's version on CD also. My absolute favorite is a long musical

version, again an oldie available only on tape, by Nirinjan Kaur &

Sada Sat Kaur. I have found that to work consistently with any bani

I need a recording that gives me good, clear pronunciation, but also

some other versions that give me musical variety.

 

Another BIG HELP: print out the transliteration & the translation of

JAAP & use it while you chant. Then you WILL understand what you are

chanting! I print out banis with one line of English under one line

of transliteration. When I am working with a slower recorded

version, after I am somewhat familiar with correct pronunciation, I

have time to let my eyes run over the English translation while I am

reading the line in transliteration. That way the English meaning

gets associated in my brain with what I am seeing on the page & also

with the sounds I am making. Eventually you won't even have to look

at the translation; you will become that familiar with the meaning of

the words.

 

You can print out banis from the www.sikhnet.com website. Go to:

downloads, GGS & banis, download banis -- select the "English

translation & Romanized" for whatever bani you want to work with.

 

You will benefit from the soundcurrent of Jaap without understanding

what you're saying :-) but I think it's beneficial to saturate

ourselves on as many levels as possible with these powerful

compositions. Appreciating their left-brain "meaning" is a great

tool for doing this!

 

Blessing,

Nirvair Kaur

 

 

Kundaliniyoga, "Deb Breton"

<WoodturnerGal wrote:

 

Also, I'm not sure how to interpret my numerology. Part of my

practice for 'Soul of 10' is to recite the Jap Sahib, how does that

help when I don't even understand what I'm reciting?

Thanks for any help in advance.

Peace, Love and Laughter ~

 

Debra

Potomac Falls, VA

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