Guest guest Posted March 31, 2001 Report Share Posted March 31, 2001 Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!! Namaste dear sisters and brothers!!! this was posted first on the other Amma list, where Eknath had described his "encounter" with Christ...for any one who may just not have already seen it.... my dear little ones, Jesus is visiting us all the time...it's just that we are unable to see Him usually...the same with Krsna and Amma...and all the devas...whenever we are receptive, tho, we can feel their loving energies...and if we are really receptive, like Eknath was, at that time, we may even "see" or feel the presence of one of these Great Ones. it is not that They do not visit us, but that we do not let Them OUT...from our heart's locked room....and then we blame them for not appearing in our lives....when we won't let them out of our own hearts.... Amma or Christ is always "knocking" on the door of our hearts...from the inside...we are too "busy"...so we say: "go away i'm too busy right now..." and Amma says..."ok"....and then we blame Her for not helping us!!!even though we won't let Her! How can there be any real difference between any of those Great Ones...are they not all cut from the same Cloth....the Cloth of Divine Consciousness...this is why Swami Sivanandaji could talk of Jesus and the other Great Ones so "casually"...he saw that they are all essentially "ONE".... as Amma has said, God is not a Hindu...nor is He a Christian, or Jew, or Moslem.....those are all our own labels applied by us for mostly political reasons. The masters would get together and have a big party...no disagreements there, but we, the followers....that's where the trouble begins...with our misunderstandings of the Master and misinterpretations of what S/He might have meant when S/He said so and so.... Eknath, thank you for your loving presentation of your experience with Christ....i think it is entirely possible to love Christ, and not be a 'Christian' as they are known...what is the need for "conversion" when we see that all these great ones are One....and we have our own Master...our Mother, Amma...Who has said that all of these great ones are really incarnations of the Divine Mother...Christ included.... when i met Mother the first year, after the outside, afternoon meditation, we were all walking back across Fort Flagler's fields, from Amma's house to the Dining Hall, where Amma would distribute the food to all Her children there... We were singing along with Amma...Amba Bhavani, Jaya Jagadambe!..... Around the time we got to the dining hall area, i was overcome with the strongest feeling that i was with Christ and the multitudes...just before He would feed us with the loaves and fishes...it was like a deja vu so to speak...very strong, powerful impression...just as i had thought this, a friend turned to me (she was also a first timer, and raised an Italian Catholic...)and said: "i feel like we are with Christ and the multitudes!" my hair stood on end...and with tears running down my face, i told her that was precisely what i had just thought...we were speechless with awe after that.... i would imagine that many of Amma's western Children were "christians" earlier...we had such longings for the Divine...and it could only be satisfied in our culture by loving Christ...as He was the only available Incarnation to attach our love to...so i suspect that many of us had a very loving personal intimate relationship with Christ in our hearts already, before we met Amma....for some of us it may have been the calling to Christ, which seemingly brought Amma into our lives... There is no distinction in my mind between either Christ or Amma...the same loving being...what you might call "christ consciousness"...it doesn't really have a body, but it incarnates in bodies occasionally to give the children some help...some Divine Love...and to be a model of how to live in this world.... Thus we shouldn't be surprised at a similarity between Amma and Christ...if there is ONLY ONE Divine Consciousness....how could there NOT be similarities? this doesn't mean however that we must join a christian church! We may love the master without wanting to join the followers in their particular sect...in the same way we may love Krsna without being Vaishavas... as Swami Vivekanandaji once said: "God founds a religion and the devil steps right in and organises it.." So we don't have to be attached to the "organisation"...we can go directly to the source...and have our own personal relationship with the Divine, in whichever form we love the most, be it Christ or Krsna or Amma....They will all take us along to the Goal. The key is not WHO we love, but THAT we DO LOVE.. Paramahansa Yoganandaji used to visit all the time with Divine Mother, Christ and Krsna....he loved them all equally...and i take his example in this...they are all equally loveable... Amma too, has said that all these Devas are within us... in this vein we have not to "become a christian"...as we ARE already devotees of the Divine, in whichever form appeals to us.... We needn't exclude anybody here...all are welcome to the feast. Eknath, when you described Christ standing there beside you with His hand on your shoulder, you reminded me of an experience this past year with our own Amma.... it was Seattle 2000...in that hotel at Lynnwood... Atma Puja was happening...(i'm more used to the idea of DEVI Puja...and have wondered why they changed the name)...it was VERY hot, and stifling in that huge room, and people were pretty crowded, although possibly not as crowded as sometimes.... so many people experienced a lot of discomfort there...one friend told me of how he had felt like just jumping up and running screaming from the hall! (he's a little agoraphobic...and was feeling VERY crowded, and hot...doesn't take heat well either).... However i felt so honoured and happy to be there with Amma performing this puja together, that soon i didn't notice my discomfort any more.... When we started to sing the Devi's Names....i just REALLY got into it...like Amma had taken me over in a way...i just lost my self in those beautiful names and the responses....i suddenly became aware that Amma was standing right beside/behind me, in Devi Bhava (in a green sari)...and touching me lovingly on the shoulder...i had to look at the stage to see that She was still there...but i could strongly feel Her Divine Presence just behind me, hand touching my shoulder for the rest of the Names and more of the Puja...in Devi Bhava already...although She was actually in Her usual Whites(onstage)...this feeling was so strong of Amma's presence behind me and touching my shoulder, that i felt She was blessing me for so getting into the puja (i have been doing pujas on my own too, since the second year after i met Amma...so i felt particularly blessed and honoured to be there with Amma doing the same!)...so i never felt the heat or the suffocation which many people felt, because i was lost in Divine Bliss...lost in Amma's Love...Lost in Her Names....melting in the Sea of Love..... it's interesting that Amma was doing exactly the same thing with me that She was doing with Swami Nealu, on the cover of his book....standing protectively, lovingly beside Her child with Her hand on his shoulder.... and it is also interesting that Christ was experienced by Eknath as doing that very same thing...standing behind with a hand on his shoulder...Are they One or what? Om Christave Namah! Om Gurave Namah! Om Sri Mata Amritanandamayi Devyai Namah! In Amma's Divine Love, and in Her Service, as ever, Your own Self, visvanathan Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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