Guest guest Posted April 6, 2001 Report Share Posted April 6, 2001 A devotee at a satsang recently said that Amma said we should pour our anger out at God, rather than on others, because God can handle it. (a poor paraphrase if a divine quote, I'm sure. If anyone has a better version, please share it with us.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2001 Report Share Posted April 7, 2001 Dear Amma's Darlings, As Usha mentioned, Amma never identifies with Her anger. She is a supreme witness to everything. The anger is just a mask, and we, who are in the world of duality, feel that She has got angry the same way as we do. Also, every action of Amma is out of love for the disciples, and She has said more than once that it is Her scoldings, more than Her love, which remove the vasanas in the brahmacharis. In Eternal Wisdom-I, when one of the brahmacharis apologises to Amma for making Her angry in the past, the response from Amma is "Was it not out of Her love for you that She spoke to you so sternly at that time, son?". Jagadheep >The Gita verse was III, 37. I'll post more, maybe tonight. Regarding gurus >getting angry, in light of the "blocked desire" explanation for anger: The >guru is cosmic intelligence incarnate; God in human form. It is the desire >of cosmic intelligence that everything evolve. If the disciple, who has >submitted himself to the guru, behaves in ways contrary to the force of >evolution (God's/Guru's will), then the "desire" of God/guru (the cosmic >force of evolution) is blocked, and that collision of desire with opposing >force results in anger, in this case "cosmic" anger. It's not individual, >egocentric anger based on need and weakness and lack. It's the grace of God >helping to rid the individual of impediments to his enlightenment. > >That's my take on why Amma, Maharishi, and other gurus "get" angry. _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2001 Report Share Posted April 7, 2001 --- Kenna <ammaskenna wrote: > A devotee at a satsang recently said that Amma said > we should pour our anger > out at God, rather than on others, because God can > handle it. > This must be true -- I've been told that Amma has counseled certain devotees who were struggling with anger to throw their Amma dolls across the room! I heard this at a time when I was literally making myself sick holding in my anger. I guess I felt anger was unholy, and was therefore denying and repressing it. Hearing what Amma had advised helped me understand that She knows we often need to release anger, but in a way that does not harm others. So I did some martial arts-style exercises, imagining that I was throwing the anger off. I asked Amma to take the anger...soon enough, that prayer was answered, and my daily, almost-debilitating headaches were gone. Thanks to all for your insights. Although I don't write frequently, please know that I treasure this satsang, and learn so much from everyone. In Amma's love, Amala Get email at your own domain with Mail. http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2001 Report Share Posted April 14, 2001 Dear Fellow Path Trodders, I've been wanting to join this chain about anger for about a week now, but the busy-ness of everyday life has kept me too busy to do so. When the topic of conversation turns to anger, I usually have an opinion. I grew up with a mother who had a lot of frustrated desires in her life and expressed it as anger towards us children. This anger in turn, got internalized by us and it took many years for me to learn what to do with it (only through the spiritual path from Catholicism to Anglicanism to Self-Realization Fellowship to Amma. Until I came to Amma, while I was always a caring person, but I still had this anger inside that could flare up at an appropriate or inappropriate time. Towards the latter part of those years, I very strongly wanted to be rid of all that anger so I prayed a lot about it and through meditation primarily I began to shed the layers of anger one by one - like an onion skin. Not that I am perfect now, my tendency towards angering quickly is still there, but doesn't appear nearly as often. Personally, I believe the sadhana, the seva, giving to charity all the practices Amma talks about help to heal the anger. Amma's love and grace heal the anger. A couple of thoughts came to mind from listening to the swami talks over the past few years. I have heard at least one of them say that anger is very destructive - its ultimate expression is insanity. At first I thought that was a strong way of putting it, but I thought about it and yes, when we're talking about that kind of rage that takes on a life of its own, insanity follows. Just look at the assassinations that have taken place in America - like in the 1960s. Or there's the man who got so angry at a motorist that committed some minor infraction here on a Bay Area road a year ago that he took the dog out of the person's car and threw it out onto the highway. Fortunately the dog survived. When I heard the swami say that it made a deep impression. Swamiji Amritaswarupananda brought up another related point at a talk I heard about a year ago. He said that once we start getting closer to the Master, he or she won't show any mercy to the ego, as others have pointed out in previous emails on this subject. Turmoil in us, he said is a good sign. It is hard, said Swamiji, to be around an enlightened master. It appears to us that we get unwarranted "kicks" by the master. However, in these terms, the more kicks we get, in a sense, the more she loves us. Swamiji said the best way to deal with anger is to slowly start being aware of our feelings. Eventually you get to a point where you start to notice it coming - there's a moment BEFORE it actually takes over. After some time of observing ourselves quietly, we will be able to witness the feelings and let them pass on by. I have tried doing this and it works for me. Regarding social injustice, that's a toughie. We are not made of stone. Witnessing someone being racially profiled on the streets or being beat up for how you look or talk - the tendency is to feel angry. That is normal. However, I believe that I want to turn that anger into action - use it as a catalyst to get involved with social justice groups, and most importantly, when people around the office, or relatives are talking to you, you can explain your point of view to them in a clear way. We all influence others every day and in that way we can maybe help re-direct people's opinions on some social issues that are very important to us. Anger that motivates me is positive. Anger that rises up to become rage to me can be very destructive. Thank you for letting me share, In Amma's Grace, Amritanand Kenna [ammaskenna] Friday, April 06, 2001 10:28 PM Ammachi Anger A devotee at a satsang recently said that Amma said we should pour our anger out at God, rather than on others, because God can handle it. (a poor paraphrase if a divine quote, I'm sure. If anyone has a better version, please share it with us.) Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 Om Namah Shivaya, Brianna - In addition to the great advice everyone else has given you, I highly recommend you give yourself some time to process and release the anger in an appropriate way. If you try to supress it, it may come out in the physical body or in other indirect ways that aren't healthy. Journaling your feelings can be helpful - I have heard Amma say that it's helpful to talk about your feelings, so talk to your journal. What I think is most helpful and powerful, for me at least, is doing artwork. Drawing, painting, whatever. Let it be expressed that way. Put the energy into the paper, rather than yourself or the world. If you combine this with the journaling, it will likely give you understanding as to why this is coming up, and it will help you release the energies so that you are not carrying them around inside, or at least as much. You will probably find that over time, the artwork will transform of itself, and the anger will begin to change into some other creative energy. Please do not supress it... but find the appropriate means for releasing it. Blessings, Achintya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 Thich Nhat Hanh gave a public talk at the Riverside Church, New York, New York on September 25, 2001. Mr. Hanh closed the talk as follows: My Dear friends, I would like to tell you how I practice when I get angry. During the war in Vietnam, there was a lot of injustice, and many thousands, including friends of mine, many disciples of mine, were killed. I got very angry. One time I learned that the city of Ben Tre was bombarded by American aviation. And the city was destroyed. The military man who was responsible for that declared later that he had to destroy the city of Ben Tre to save it. I was very angry. No, I am not crying. I hold my face in my two hands. To keep my loneliness warm Two hands, protecting, Two hands, nourishing, Two hands preventing My soul from leaving me in anger. To My Fellow Struggling Souls, G4M Connie Habash <Connie wrote: Om Namah Shivaya, Brianna - In addition to the great advice everyone else has given you, I highly recommend you give yourself some time to process and release the anger in an appropriate way. If you try to supress it, it may come out in the physical body or in other indirect ways that aren't healthy. Journaling your feelings can be helpful - I have heard Amma say that it's helpful to talk about your feelings, so talk to your journal. What I think is most helpful and powerful, for me at least, is doing artwork. Drawing, painting, whatever. Let it be expressed that way. Put the energy into the paper, rather than yourself or the world. If you combine this with the journaling, it will likely give you understanding as to why this is coming up, and it will help you release the energies so that you are not carrying them around inside, or at least as much. You will probably find that over time, the artwork will transform of itself, and the anger will begin to change into some other creative energy. Please do not supress it... but find the appropriate means for releasing it. Blessings, Achintya Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi/ Ammachi Search - Find what you’re looking for faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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