Guest guest Posted April 29, 2001 Report Share Posted April 29, 2001 In reply to K.R. Ranjeesh (or is it Rajneesh?). I was very moved by this great tribute to the enlightening awareness. It is the best thing I have seen on thie e-group as yet. And it is good that the name was not given, until the end, so as not to prejudice us ahead of time. Is it Rajneesh who is the author? Such a clear, fine expression. It is indeed good to be reminded of what the search is all about; one can lose the thread of things over time, even to the point of doubt of the whole nebulous process. What I found intriguing is that he did not say just not to seek. He said that one must seek up to a certain point; only then can one not seek. One has to see the futility of seeking for oneself. I wonder what the others in this e-group think. How is Amma serving this process for you? Do you see the futility of the search, or must you continue to search? What does Amma do for you? Thank you. Avram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2001 Report Share Posted April 29, 2001 In a message dated 4/29/01 1:10:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sprose1 writes: > How is Amma serving this process for you? Do you see the futility of the > search, or must you continue to search? What does Amma do for you? I have not known of Ammachi for very long, but what I have read reminds me of my teacher, Almine. For 2 years I have been devoted to my teacher and her teachings. Before I began, I felt lost, jaded and confused. Almine's teachings reminded me not only of hope, faith, and what I was striving for in the first place, but she then reminded me that there would come a time when I was on the path for it's own sake. At that point I found that the seeking outside of myself was futile, because it was not an experience that could be transferred. But you do have to step up onto a rock before you can step down and each part of the path is unique to each, it's not a race and there is no reward for being "ready" for seeking to be futile yet if it's not. Too many, I think see the effects of awakening and think they are causes. It's important to be open to what one's own highest truth is and not be convinced that if enlightened ones say that they do "this", to think doing "this" will cause enlightenment, because it may not be causal. peace, Verdena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 >What I found intriguing is that he did not say just not to seek. He said >that one must seek up to a certain point; only then can one not seek. One >has to see the futility of seeking for oneself. I wonder what the others >in >this e-group think. Dear Amma's darlings, Awaken Children -V gives some details about this, and I shall try to give a gist of it below. Beyond a certain point, the guru within oneself will be awakened. A LOT of effort is required on the part of the seeker to attain this state. The period of time between this, and the attainment of Self realization is a waiting period: a lot of changes happen within, but the seeker may not be aware that this is happening. The Guru knows this as his grace flows continuously to the disciple. Maybe, this is the point at which the seeker stops conscious effort. What do the others think? Jagadheep _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2001 Report Share Posted May 10, 2001 Avram wrote: It is the best thing I have > seen on thie e-group as yet. I too thought this was very helpful. > What I found intriguing is that he did not say just not to seek. He said > that one must seek up to a certain point; only then can one not seek. One > has to see the futility of seeking for oneself. I wonder what the others in > this e-group think. I remember after attending Amma's programs for several years, suddenly realizing getting darshan wasn't enough. I wanted to serve her and help others get to her. I remember last year giving up on making satsang happen in this community. And recently, being so low with pneumonia I didn't care any more if I lived or died, let alone say mantra. And now a new light within and without. By Amma's grace we seek until we don't. By Amma's grace the ego gives way, little by little. Her Baby, premarupa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2001 Report Share Posted May 10, 2001 Ammachi, sprose1@a... wrote: > > What I found intriguing is that he did not say just not to seek. He said > that one must seek up to a certain point; only then can one not seek. One > has to see the futility of seeking for oneself. I wonder what the others in > this e-group think. Hi :-) lovely question. I guess I know that seeking leads us to That which we seek. When one is ready to meet That preciousness, That Self then the seeker is 'not there' cause they are One. It may be a glimpse. Then both seeker & 'Sought' awareness coexists. Then they marry over time gradually into one as Love. > > How is Amma serving this process for you? Do you see the futility of the > search, or must you continue to search? What does Amma do for you? I think Amma provides such love for that part of me that plays as seeker. That part of me is childlike, vulnerable & seeking Mother Love. > > Thank you. > Avram > Thanks, Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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