Guest guest Posted July 5, 2001 Report Share Posted July 5, 2001 Hi Everybody: Tonight I heard a very interesting talk about forgiveness. It caused me to wonder what Mother has said about the subjects. Unfortunately, I don't recall reading anything of Her teachings. Can anybody help me out here. Does anyone recall anything that Mother has said about "Forgiveness" ? Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2001 Report Share Posted July 5, 2001 Dear Peter, Mother has said that if somebody does you 'harm', you should try to see that also as God's prasad, trying to mould you for the better. She said that once we have a Guru, everything in life is a lesson, some pleasant and some painful, but all are for our ultimate good. It seems to me that there is then no necessity for forgiveness, since if everything is to be seen as good, a spiritual seeker would be grateful or at least accepting of everything and everyone. You only forgive people who have harmed you. This attitude seems to be even more powerful than forgiveness in eradicating our anger and bitterness. May Amma's smile shine from us and everyone we meet. Regards, Vallath Nandakumar >pwhite0130 >Ammachi >Ammachi > Forgiveness >Thu, 5 Jul 2001 22:01:22 EDT > >Hi Everybody: > >Tonight I heard a very interesting talk about forgiveness. > >It caused me to wonder what Mother has said about the subjects. >Unfortunately, I don't recall reading anything of Her teachings. > >Can anybody help me out here. Does anyone recall anything that Mother has >said about "Forgiveness" ? > >Peter > > > > _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Vallath: > It seems to me that there is then no necessity for forgiveness, since > if everything is to be seen as good, a spiritual seeker would be > Exactly. Although I would substitute the word "it is" instead of "good". The reasoning for no necessity for forgiveness is because the forgiveness is based on a judgement. Someone did something wrong to us therefore we forgive them. We made the judgement that their conduct was wrong. Judgements are hardly spiritual so forgiveness is not spiritual also. Om Amrtesvaryai Namah. Peter White St. Augustine, Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 The recent dialogue on the net about forgiveness has been very inspiring. I have nothing original to contribute, but I went through my files and found these Amma quotations on the subject. On Forgiveness of others: 1) "No one is above fault. Whenever you see any faults in others, you should be ready to look within yourself. Then you will understand that all those faults can be found within yourself. If someone loses his temper, you should think of it as his samskara (the totality of impressions and deep-rooted tendencies which we have acquired during countless lives). Then you will be able to forgive him -- you will have the strength to forgive. Our attitude of forgiveness will make our thoughts, words and actions good. Our good deeds will bring us God's grace." --Amma 2) "There is no human being who doesn't possess at least one divine quality. If we can forgive the mistakes of others, the divinity in them will be awakened. So we should try to cultivate this attitude. When we perceive the good in everything, we are filled with Gods' grace. That grace is the source of all success in life. So, light the lamp of love within you and move forward. When we take each step with good thoughts and a smiling face, all the goodness will come to us and fill our being. Then God cannot possibly stay away from us. HE will embrace us. There won't be a moment in our life without peace and happiness." --Amma On seeking forgiveness for ourselves: 3) [As a bramacharin sought forgiveness for his mistake, tears welled up in his eyes.] Amma replied, "Son, don't worry. God forgave you as soon as you realized your mistake and repented." --Amma 4) "The mere realization of your wrongdoing has freed you from it. You have already been forgiven. The pain you have suffered is more than enough to wash away the sin. Any sin will be washed away by the tears of repentance...From now on you shouldn't carry this burden in your mind. You have Amma to take care of you. Forget it and be at peace." --Amma May we all find delight and Truth through the grace of Amma's words. How fortunate we are to have such a Satguru to guide us. At Amma's feet, vaishnavi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2001 Report Share Posted September 12, 2001 Namah Shivaya dear ones, Nandu's message from July takes on special meaning in the face of the uproar caused by yesterday's events. > "Vallath Nandakumar" <vallathn > Ammachi > Fri, 06 Jul 2001 05:11:14 > Ammachi > Re: Forgiveness > > > Dear Peter, > Mother has said that if somebody does you 'harm', you should try > to see that also as God's prasad, trying to mould you for the better. > She said that once we have a Guru, everything in life is a lesson, > some pleasant and some painful, but all are for our ultimate good. > > It seems to me that there is then no necessity for forgiveness, since > if everything is to be seen as good, a spiritual seeker would be > grateful or at least accepting of everything and everyone. You only > forgive people who have harmed you. This attitude seems to be even more > powerful than forgiveness in eradicating our anger and bitterness. > > May Amma's smile shine from us and everyone we meet. > > Regards, > Vallath Nandakumar > >> pwhite0130 >> Ammachi >> Ammachi >> Forgiveness >> Thu, 5 Jul 2001 22:01:22 EDT >> >> Hi Everybody: >> >> Tonight I heard a very interesting talk about forgiveness. >> >> It caused me to wonder what Mother has said about the subjects. >> Unfortunately, I don't recall reading anything of Her teachings. >> >> Can anybody help me out here. Does anyone recall anything that Mother has >> said about "Forgiveness" ? >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> > > _______________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Ammachi > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Dear Shelly, This is just my opinion... Forgiveness is a Perfect Tool to help ourselves. Many people have done things to me in my past, and some I have forgiven, others I haven't yet. The times I have been able to forgive have helped ME feel better. BUT, I had to be ready to do it. To try and forgive before I was ready, before I had ample time to mull it all over in my head and heart, never worked. Forgiving myself for things I've done to hurt others is even harder, but again, it would help me be closer to God because as Amma say, "The past is a cancelled check". In other words, if you just found this thing out, I would say don't beat yourself up about not forgiving yet. Give yourself time to do it. Only a Perfect Being like Amma could do it instantly, not being bound by time and natural processes like us. But maybe consider yourself on the path toward forgiving that person. Those that I haven't yet forgiven completely, I've forgiven a bit more each year. One thing that helped me a lot was to examine the pieces of the offense... what exactly about the offense hurt me? Betrayal, coersion, manipulation, abuse, neglect, etc. Understanding what exactly hurt me at my core helped me understand my emotional response and take responsibility for it. With understanding, forgiveness came quicker. Without it, it still came sometimes, but a bit slower. That has helped me, anyway. However, this is all about my own dealings with forgiving people who have hurt me, not people who have hurt someone I love. With love, Gabriela --- kalima <kalima wrote: > Thank you for the welcome back and the prayers for > my heatlh. I am > currently waiting for a doctor to call me back about > a possible heart > condition. Sadly though the doctor told me that if I > do have this > condition there is no treatment for me since I have > asthma and low > blood pressure and this could make my quality of > life horrible and I am > honestly doing well. At least that is how I feel. > > I just pray things come back ok as my mother in law > just had a heart > attack and my husband is so so worried about me now. > I told him I am > not worried as I know I have improtant work to do > and it is not my time > to move on yet. Which to me sounds funny as I use to > be so so afraid of > death and now I am not. > > Like I said in my intro I have learned so much this > year from just > silly health problems. > > The one thing I am really working on and could use > prayers for (and any > advice) is how to really let go and forgive. > > I consider myself a very forving person but I > recenctly discovered > someone did things that seriously changed the > outcome of my life and my > relationship with my father. It was like finding out > that everything I > knew was a lie and I don't know what was real. I > want to give > forgiveness and let this go so the energy is not in > my life. I pray to > Mother to help me but I don't know what to do really > to let this go. I > don't speak with the person who caused this pain as > she caused pain on > my children and husband. I want to close this > chapter and move on but > not sure how. > > If someone has advice I would love to hear it. Or > knows of something > Amma said I could read to help me with this. > > Thank you. > > Jai Ma! > Shelly > Do what you can, with what you have, where you are - > Theodore Roosevelt > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Gabriela thank you so much for you answer to me. It makes perfect sense. I love the quote from Amma to. I think I am going to write that out and place it on my altar to look at when I pray about this. Shelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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