Guest guest Posted October 26, 2001 Report Share Posted October 26, 2001 does anyone know how Amma would respond to the question: "Amma i have an affinity towards all realised beings. but two in particular have caught my attention. how do i know which one is my true Guru? need i pick one?" i would also like to introduce myself(my manners aren't up to par). my name is mohan. i met amma for the first time this past summer in DC. i went there with a group of people from an ashram nearby. now i live in athens GA. thanks to all who responded to my last post. i will follow up on that advice as soon as possible. namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2001 Report Share Posted October 26, 2001 In a message dated 10/26/01 3:59:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Ammachi writes: Om Namah Shivaya, I do not know what Amma would say, but I think that what I would do in a dilemma (spiritual or temporal) is to place the question before her in my heart, and I believe she will send the answer at the right time. I have also heard that one's Guru picks one as disciple, rather than the other way around. Usha. << Message: 4 Fri, 26 Oct 2001 07:25:26 -0000 mohanji who's the Guru? does anyone know how Amma would respond to the question: "Amma i have an affinity towards all realised beings. but two in particular have caught my attention. how do i know which one is my true Guru? need i pick one?" i would also like to introduce myself(my manners aren't up to par). my name is mohan. i met amma for the first time this past summer in DC. i went there with a group of people from an ashram nearby. now i live in athens GA. thanks to all who responded to my last post. i will follow up on that advice as soon as possible. namaste >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 Om Namo Shivaye, I share same feelings with you but now I don't worry about it as much as I used to because I understand that we, ordinary human beings, do get attracted towards different spices of life. There are different paths to the realization namely silent contemplation thru meditation, wisdom thru scriptures, devotion thru singings, ritualistic prayers, straight karma/seva, ... a spiritual seeker do get drawn in different directions many times because one sees the different paths leading to the spirituality. Every group has their own primary, seccondary, ... methods of helping a seeker. Eventually a seeker has to discover one or more or combination what works best for him/her. Although I have been drawn towards many masters myself but I have seen the advantage of having a single point of focus, so you can penetrate deeper. Reminds me of amma's advice (from Awaken Children), initially you drill holes many places to find our the reliable source of water for the well but later when you find one right one, you get water from there. Similarly all the needs can be fulfilled by one master. I have seen and heard that Amma as well as other Gurus have directed a spiritual seeker to other Guru if that's better for the seeker. Every seeker is unique and one has to decide what works and what does not. In the initial stages, I feel true satsanga is essential but at the same time one has to be careful of social aspect of a satsang. Anyway in the meanwhile, enjoy, learn and be sincere, when time is right answer will come to you. Om Ammaye Namah :ekanath Ammachi, mohanji@h... wrote: > does anyone know how Amma would respond to the question: > "Amma i have an affinity towards all realised beings. but two in > particular have caught my attention. how do i know which one is my > true Guru? need i pick one?" > i would also like to introduce myself(my manners aren't up to par). > my name is mohan. i met amma for the first time this past summer in > DC. i went there with a group of people from an ashram nearby. now i > live in athens GA. thanks to all who responded to my last post. i > will follow up on that advice as soon as possible. namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 Namaste! I have been having many questions about this very issue, as I am deeply attracted to another spiritual path/guru, which has resulted in my feeling very confused and torn with regard to my relationship with Amma. The problem being that I have already been initiated by Amma. My current spiritual path requires that I chant a mantra other than the one given to me by Amma, and also requires that I be re-initiated. I am so afraid to tell Amma my dilemma, as it obviously would be like telling Her I am rejecting Her as my guru!! Yet I also sense that perhaps She is the one who led me to this very path (knowing I would never be able to practice sadhana under Her direct guidance). I guess all I can do is bring this issue up the next time I see her:) Thank you for listening to me ramble! Your servant, Kirsten - <dilip10 <Ammachi> Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:04 PM Re: who's the Guru? > Om Namo Shivaye, > > I share same feelings with you but now I don't worry about it as much > as I used to because I understand that we, ordinary human beings, do > get attracted towards different spices of life. > > There are different paths to the realization namely silent > contemplation thru meditation, wisdom thru scriptures, devotion thru > singings, ritualistic prayers, straight karma/seva, ... a spiritual > seeker do get drawn in different directions many times because one > sees the different paths leading to the spirituality. Every group has > their own primary, seccondary, ... methods of helping a seeker. > Eventually a seeker has to discover one or more or combination what > works best for him/her. > > Although I have been drawn towards many masters myself but I have > seen the advantage of having a single point of focus, so you can > penetrate deeper. Reminds me of amma's advice (from Awaken Children), > initially you drill holes many places to find our the reliable source > of water for the well but later when you find one right one, you get > water from there. Similarly all the needs can be fulfilled by one > master. I have seen and heard that Amma as well as other Gurus have > directed a spiritual seeker to other Guru if that's better for the > seeker. Every seeker is unique and one has to decide what works and > what does not. In the initial stages, I feel true satsanga is > essential but at the same time one has to be careful of social aspect > of a satsang. > > Anyway in the meanwhile, enjoy, learn and be sincere, when time is > right answer will come to you. > > Om Ammaye Namah > > :ekanath > > Ammachi, mohanji@h... wrote: > > does anyone know how Amma would respond to the question: > > "Amma i have an affinity towards all realised beings. but two in > > particular have caught my attention. how do i know which one is my > > true Guru? need i pick one?" > > i would also like to introduce myself(my manners aren't up to par). > > my name is mohan. i met amma for the first time this past summer in > > DC. i went there with a group of people from an ashram nearby. now > i > > live in athens GA. thanks to all who responded to my last post. i > > will follow up on that advice as soon as possible. namaste > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Ammachi > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 Namaste Kirsten, Many of us who have been given mantra initiation by Amma have come to her from the paths of other gurus. Before meeting her I was initiated into Kriya Yoga by the Self-Realization Fellowship (path of Paramahansa Yogananda). However, once I was given my mantra by Amma I felt guided to direct my energies toward her. Nevertheless, I have pictures of Yoganandaji, the Lord Jesus, the Blessed Virgin Mary and Mother Kali on my altar. Your situation sounds a little different than mine was. My suggestion would be: Next time you see Amma (are you seeing her in California or Michigan this November?) - talk to other devotees about this issue and/or talk to one of the swamis and/or get in the question line during morning darshan and ask Amma herself. Another suggestion is to write down this dilemma on a piece of paper and put it on your altar then pray and meditate about it for a month to see if Amma gives her answer without getting into the question line. I have a close friend who uses this method and so he has rarely gone in the question line. Good luck and Guru's Blessings, Amritanand Kirsten [khd5] Tuesday, October 30, 2001 4:36 PM Ammachi Re: Re: who's the Guru? Namaste! I have been having many questions about this very issue, as I am deeply attracted to another spiritual path/guru, which has resulted in my feeling very confused and torn with regard to my relationship with Amma. The problem being that I have already been initiated by Amma. My current spiritual path requires that I chant a mantra other than the one given to me by Amma, and also requires that I be re-initiated. I am so afraid to tell Amma my dilemma, as it obviously would be like telling Her I am rejecting Her as my guru!! Yet I also sense that perhaps She is the one who led me to this very path (knowing I would never be able to practice sadhana under Her direct guidance). I guess all I can do is bring this issue up the next time I see her:) Thank you for listening to me ramble! Your servant, Kirsten - <dilip10 <Ammachi> Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:04 PM Re: who's the Guru? > Om Namo Shivaye, > > I share same feelings with you but now I don't worry about it as much > as I used to because I understand that we, ordinary human beings, do > get attracted towards different spices of life. > > There are different paths to the realization namely silent > contemplation thru meditation, wisdom thru scriptures, devotion thru > singings, ritualistic prayers, straight karma/seva, ... a spiritual > seeker do get drawn in different directions many times because one > sees the different paths leading to the spirituality. Every group has > their own primary, seccondary, ... methods of helping a seeker. > Eventually a seeker has to discover one or more or combination what > works best for him/her. > > Although I have been drawn towards many masters myself but I have > seen the advantage of having a single point of focus, so you can > penetrate deeper. Reminds me of amma's advice (from Awaken Children), > initially you drill holes many places to find our the reliable source > of water for the well but later when you find one right one, you get > water from there. Similarly all the needs can be fulfilled by one > master. I have seen and heard that Amma as well as other Gurus have > directed a spiritual seeker to other Guru if that's better for the > seeker. Every seeker is unique and one has to decide what works and > what does not. In the initial stages, I feel true satsanga is > essential but at the same time one has to be careful of social aspect > of a satsang. > > Anyway in the meanwhile, enjoy, learn and be sincere, when time is > right answer will come to you. > > Om Ammaye Namah > > :ekanath > > Ammachi, mohanji@h... wrote: > > does anyone know how Amma would respond to the question: > > "Amma i have an affinity towards all realised beings. but two in > > particular have caught my attention. how do i know which one is my > > true Guru? need i pick one?" > > i would also like to introduce myself(my manners aren't up to par). > > my name is mohan. i met amma for the first time this past summer in > > DC. i went there with a group of people from an ashram nearby. now > i > > live in athens GA. thanks to all who responded to my last post. i > > will follow up on that advice as soon as possible. namaste > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Ammachi > > > Your use of is subject to > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 Dear Kirsten Thank you for sharing this will us. From books i had an idea that a person can have only one guru during one lifetime. And part of my mind still cannot understand how the opposite is possible:) It seems as a rare bliss to have just one guru and guru at all. Maybe you changed a lot since the time of Ammachi's initiation. But i am sure Amma knows everything and She is one and the same with another guru just in different appearance. And i think because there is only one God that leading all of us and is in all of us, you cannot reject anyone as your guru, God's (Amma's) will in everything what happens with us. Om Namah Shivaya. p.s. Kirsten, maybe it would be okay if i ask you to tell me on my email what is the difference in the spiritual paths and external difference of two gurus, if you are willingly to speak about these. Because i am very new to the spiritual aspect of yoga....... Ammachi, "Kirsten" <khd5@h...> wrote: > Namaste! > > I have been having many questions about this very issue, as I am deeply > attracted to another spiritual path/guru, which has resulted in my feeling > very confused and torn with regard to my relationship with Amma. The problem > being that I have already been initiated by Amma. My current spiritual path > requires that I chant a mantra other than the one given to me by Amma, and > also requires that I be re-initiated. I am so afraid to tell Amma my > dilemma, as it obviously would be like telling Her I am rejecting Her as my > guru!! Yet I also sense that perhaps She is the one who led me to this very > path (knowing I would never be able to practice sadhana under Her direct > guidance). I guess all I can do is bring this issue up the next time I see > her:) > > Thank you for listening to me ramble! > > Your servant, > > Kirsten > > > > - > <dilip10@e...> > <Ammachi> > Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:04 PM > Re: who's the Guru? > > > > Om Namo Shivaye, > > > > I share same feelings with you but now I don't worry about it as much > > as I used to because I understand that we, ordinary human beings, do > > get attracted towards different spices of life. > > > > There are different paths to the realization namely silent > > contemplation thru meditation, wisdom thru scriptures, devotion thru > > singings, ritualistic prayers, straight karma/seva, ... a spiritual > > seeker do get drawn in different directions many times because one > > sees the different paths leading to the spirituality. Every group has > > their own primary, seccondary, ... methods of helping a seeker. > > Eventually a seeker has to discover one or more or combination what > > works best for him/her. > > > > Although I have been drawn towards many masters myself but I have > > seen the advantage of having a single point of focus, so you can > > penetrate deeper. Reminds me of amma's advice (from Awaken Children), > > initially you drill holes many places to find our the reliable source > > of water for the well but later when you find one right one, you get > > water from there. Similarly all the needs can be fulfilled by one > > master. I have seen and heard that Amma as well as other Gurus have > > directed a spiritual seeker to other Guru if that's better for the > > seeker. Every seeker is unique and one has to decide what works and > > what does not. In the initial stages, I feel true satsanga is > > essential but at the same time one has to be careful of social aspect > > of a satsang. > > > > Anyway in the meanwhile, enjoy, learn and be sincere, when time is > > right answer will come to you. > > > > Om Ammaye Namah > > > > :ekanath > > > > Ammachi, mohanji@h... wrote: > > > does anyone know how Amma would respond to the question: > > > "Amma i have an affinity towards all realised beings. but two in > > > particular have caught my attention. how do i know which one is my > > > true Guru? need i pick one?" > > > i would also like to introduce myself(my manners aren't up to par). > > > my name is mohan. i met amma for the first time this past summer in > > > DC. i went there with a group of people from an ashram nearby. now > > i > > > live in athens GA. thanks to all who responded to my last post. i > > > will follow up on that advice as soon as possible. namaste > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > Ammachi- > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Jai Kirsten: > I am so afraid to tell Amma my > dilemma, as it obviously would be like telling Her I am rejecting Her as my > Amma would not feel any rejection no matter what you might tell Her ... such is Her infinite compassion. By all means, ask Her for She welcomes and invites all questions. Whom do you feel closest to in your heart: Amma or your other Guru? Follow that one for a while and see how your growth progresses. It matters not if you have been initiated before by another Guru, used another mantra or followed a different practice. Make your choice in your heart and follow that guidance. Om Amrtesvaryai Namah. Peter White St. Augustine, Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Om Namah Shivaya, Please remember one thing. Whoever you choose as your guru, the real guru is none other then the Self. This has been emphasisied by many great beings such as Anandamayi Ma, Ramana Maharshi, etc. Lisa Ammachi, DJUM@a... wrote: > In a message dated 10/26/01 3:59:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > Ammachi writes: > > Om Namah Shivaya, > I do not know what Amma would say, but I think that what I would do in a > dilemma (spiritual or temporal) is to place the question before her in my > heart, and I believe she will send the answer at the right time. I have also > heard that one's Guru picks one as disciple, rather than the other way around. > Usha. > > > << > Message: 4 > Fri, 26 Oct 2001 07:25:26 -0000 > mohanji@h... > who's the Guru? > > does anyone know how Amma would respond to the question: > "Amma i have an affinity towards all realised beings. but two in > particular have caught my attention. how do i know which one is my > true Guru? need i pick one?" > i would also like to introduce myself(my manners aren't up to par). > my name is mohan. i met amma for the first time this past summer in > DC. i went there with a group of people from an ashram nearby. now i > live in athens GA. thanks to all who responded to my last post. i > will follow up on that advice as soon as possible. namaste > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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