Guest guest Posted December 2, 2001 Report Share Posted December 2, 2001 Thank you, Lutz, for gently reminding my mind or me about why I go to see Amma. The mind takes over after and leaves one with a vacuum. The mind says what is the point of being addicted to getting these fleeting feelings at all? It cannot be held onto, and no one I know can just sit there and produce the feeling of Being which they have in Amma's presence; why is that, after so many years. Me, I feel I am repeating the same thing endlessly to no avail. I started recently doing my mantra as often as possible. I found myself remembering automatically, which was an improvement for me. but the WTC derailed this progress, as the scene changed, and the hours glued to CNN...I must endeavor to re-start what I had going, in the hopes that something will deepen or grow or become clearer. I could not get myself to go to West Coast and take time off from my ordinary life; and, I felt I would return empty handed by the time the plane touched down again. It is that irrational impulse that allows me to go at all. That irrational impulse indeed. When having it, it seems to be the only rational impulse, doesn't it? Avram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2001 Report Share Posted December 4, 2001 Lutz said: <<Her Ashram is a big laboratory and certainly unique among the Indian ashrams. If you are tired of it you can also ad a few days on the beach to recover from all the massive superrational forces encountered.>> LOL! Lutz, I am hoping to visit Amma in a little over another year, and I was thinking of spending a couple weeks at a hatha yoga ashram beforehand. Now, I'm wondering if I might need it afterwards! I think I'll just make sure I have a few days off when I get back to recover - from jet lag and Amma lag! Blessings, Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2001 Report Share Posted December 4, 2001 >It is that >irrational impulse that allows me to go at all. That irrational impulse >indeed. When having it, it seems to be the only rational impulse, doesn't >it? Avram Dear Avram, this irrational impulse is also known to me. I consider it an expression of parts deep within my heart, which are yearning to be with Amma. I've often struggled to resist them but if I gave in to them I never returned without gifts. Amma is unpredictable and so is being with her. But looking back I think it is worth it to go and see her every time it is possible. >I could not get myself to >go to West Coast and take time off from my ordinary life; and, I felt I would >return empty handed by the time the plane touched down again. Here again your mind played a trick with you. May be you wouldn't have returned as a whole new being but some inner gifts you missed. I am happy to hear that you made some serious effort to experience the divine within. >From my experience it is very supportive to join a group of other devotees now and then rather than trying to do it all alone. If people gather in Amma's name it attracts her presence and grace. Also I recommend to see her disciples. There is a special grace working thru them. In my understanding and also acording to Amma's words true spiritual unfoldment is a long time process. But continous regular effort yields a result. If you achieved a certain degree of clarity and concentration power you can take refuge in a selfmade inner peacetemple presided by Amma. Isn't that worth it? If you are willing to give some more time and money I recommend to go and see Amma in India if you havn't done it before. Her Ashram is a big laboratory and certainly unique among the Indian ashrams. If you are tired of it you can also ad a few days on the beach to recover from all the massive superrational forces encountered. Not too bad, isn't it? cordial greetings Lutz Ammachi, sprose1@a... wrote: > Thank you, Lutz, for gently reminding my mind or me about why I go to see > Amma. The mind takes over after and leaves one with a vacuum. The mind says > what is the point of being addicted to getting these fleeting feelings at > all? It cannot be held onto, and no one I know can just sit there and > produce the feeling of Being which they have in Amma's presence; why is that, > after so many years. Me, I feel I am repeating the same thing endlessly to > no avail. I started recently doing my mantra as often as possible. I found > myself remembering automatically, which was an improvement for me. but the > WTC derailed this progress, as the scene changed, and the hours glued to > CNN...I must endeavor to re-start what I had going, in the hopes that > something will deepen or grow or become clearer. I could not get myself to > go to West Coast and take time off from my ordinary life; and, I felt I would > return empty handed by the time the plane touched down again. It is that > irrational impulse that allows me to go at all. That irrational impulse > indeed. When having it, it seems to be the only rational impulse, doesn't > it? Avram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2001 Report Share Posted December 4, 2001 >It is that >irrational impulse that allows me to go at all. That irrational impulse >indeed. When having it, it seems to be the only rational impulse, doesn't >it? Avram Dear Avram, this irrational impulse is also known to me. I consider it an expression of parts deep within my heart, which are yearning to be with Amma. I've often struggled to resist them but if I gave in to them I never returned without gifts. Amma is unpredictable and so is being with her. But looking back I think it is worth it to go and see her every time it is possible. >I could not get myself to >go to West Coast and take time off from my ordinary life; and, I felt I would >return empty handed by the time the plane touched down again. Here again your mind played a trick with you. May be you wouldn't have returned as a whole new being but some inner gifts you missed. I am happy to hear that you made some serious effort to experience the divine within. >From my experience it is very supportive to join a group of other devotees now and then rather than trying to do it all alone. If people gather in Amma's name it attracts her presence and grace. Also I recommend to see her disciples. There is a special grace working thru them. In my understanding and also acording to Amma's words true spiritual unfoldment is a long time process. But continous regular effort yields a result. If you achieved a certain degree of clarity and concentration power you can take refuge in a selfmade inner peacetemple presided by Amma. Isn't that worth it? If you are willing to give some more time and money I recommend to go and see Amma in India if you havn't done it before. Her Ashram is a big laboratory and certainly unique among the Indian ashrams. If you are tired of it you can also ad a few days on the beach to recover from all the massive superrational forces encountered. Not too bad, isn't it? cordial greetings Lutz Ammachi, sprose1@a... wrote: > Thank you, Lutz, for gently reminding my mind or me about why I go to see > Amma. The mind takes over after and leaves one with a vacuum. The mind says > what is the point of being addicted to getting these fleeting feelings at > all? It cannot be held onto, and no one I know can just sit there and > produce the feeling of Being which they have in Amma's presence; why is that, > after so many years. Me, I feel I am repeating the same thing endlessly to > no avail. I started recently doing my mantra as often as possible. I found > myself remembering automatically, which was an improvement for me. but the > WTC derailed this progress, as the scene changed, and the hours glued to > CNN...I must endeavor to re-start what I had going, in the hopes that > something will deepen or grow or become clearer. I could not get myself to > go to West Coast and take time off from my ordinary life; and, I felt I would > return empty handed by the time the plane touched down again. It is that > irrational impulse that allows me to go at all. That irrational impulse > indeed. When having it, it seems to be the only rational impulse, doesn't > it? Avram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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