Guest guest Posted December 23, 2001 Report Share Posted December 23, 2001 Om I had recently written a long letter to Swamin of SSB with respect yet questioning her why and what am i going thru and why are her own people trying to put it on her (when they themselves are the culprits). I haven't got the reply (in a email or as such). I expereinced one serious 'attack' (what I call it) on me yesterday - so the subject of this email "Bliss or ...". By the same thing had happened to several times in past 1 year, everytime it happened within minutes I lost the jobs, person I'm with for no reason started conflict with me, the opportunity in hand got lost completely, i pretty much felt unconcious, all of a sudden bad temper, body shivering, spritual drainage, .... family member taken to hospital, etc.... you got the idea - serious manipulation at the spirit level (effect triggers down to mental to physical level). My assesment is that was 'evil' influence, originating from my contact with some of those fake devotees in some way or other and their aggresive invasion. I know Ammachi has followers of different groups and that's so nice about it. Let me first greet Sai Ram to Sai Devotees / Om Namo Shivay to Amma devotees - or just OM with Love of Krishna to everyone. By the way just last friday I received invitation from SaiNEWs-owner to join the sai group and I may join because I have respect for Holy SSB but definately I don't plan to be part of any of their mandalis I know of. By the way on the average I attended 1 satsang of SSB every 4-6 months in last 12 years because I didn't feel there was need, moreso I didn't feel presence of that devotion I had experienced in past. Anyway, that's my interpretation or maturity level - I have respect for everyone for at least their effort towards but please don't encroach others, put serious efforts. Now let me share one more episode of same expereince which result in what I call teh 'evil' influence on me as well as on surroundings. On Friday night I attended one other Satsang for first time and I noticed someone with the similar look alike with the one lady who had started lots of my problems. Then later next morning around 6am or so, [i'm partially awake after 5am most of the times] I feel strong influence of same lady and some of her friends on my mind. Later during prayer I felt presence of mostly bad vibrations from same group. I started driving towards Shiva - Vishnu temple and on the way I passed by the houses / shops of some those devotees in Fremont Ardenwood - all of a sudden all the (whatever was left) positive influence / mood is vanishing. Read carefully now and tell me what is it "Bliss or ... something else opposite". I had visited SSB during my teen years (20 years ago) and I sort of had His impression on my mind. I didn't really attach to that and I had forgotten it for long until last year. So all of a sudden I start getting visual effect but this time effect is totally opposite. I'm expereincing spiritual drainage, bad words, lose of focus on the road (on a rainy day) and later I'm sitting dazed / unconcious for long time in the Balaji temple with my eyes closed - totally exhausted - no knowledge of where I'm. It was like someone took away all the blood from my body and was totally 'asuri' influence. Then pooja started and slowly I felt revival but it took me 1+ hour to overcome those negative influences. Similar presence of 'supposed SSB' has caused me serious damage as mentioned above, I know it's Not Him but some people playing evil with His vibrations / Bliss. Our local Bay area groups are directly involved and they have help from India. So I have CCed this message directly to the Swamin from SSB group I had talked about several times. I have CCed to Dayamrita Swaimji also ---- Can someone stop these evil inflences on me and my surroundings. Sometimes I feel Guru gives Grace to the students but who will remove the Greed and Ego from the minds of those selfish devotees who would misuse the Grace to terrorize other new devotees and other spiritual activities. As per our Hindu scriptues, I understand the place of Guru as God but who takes responsibility of damages caused by the same devotees who run the centers, etc...? What kind of practises are being followed by those SSB devotees? I know there are quite a few in Ammachi Center also and they want me to pray to SSB also. How can I pray or keep picture or anything .... except have my deep respect and Love for Him - because all those externals have caused serious havoc in my life. I know those same devotees take the ownership of Ammachi and SSB, only to push me away. Until three years ago, I used to pray, read scriptures, follow satvik practises, etc ... I knew there were some mixed personalities around me but I used to manage well to stay away from them. Then I met Amma in Jun 98 and all my spiritual practises, life was accelerated until I started encounter those fake devotees of SSB in our Bay area. Their Greed and Ego tried in vain to manipulate me. They managed their way to Amma's devotees also and now my dedication with Amma has been threatened. If I don't want to do 108 names or Lalitha, it should be my choice. I don't want people to enforce their views on me! These SSB devotes have gone too far - IS THERE ANYBODY (SANYASI(N), AMMA, SSB) WHO CAN STOP THOSE NAZIES AND STOP THEM FROM THEIR EVIL PRACTISES. With Love and Respect for SSB, I conclude why has His memories have been like "curse" to me, why has His caused me so much destruction, ..... why are Amma devotees helping those same people of Bay area and other places???????? WHY WHY - IF GURU IS GOD And DISCIPLES / SANYASI(N) ARE CLOSE TO THE GURU - HOW CAN THEY TOLERATE (OR ENCOURAGE?) THOSE EVIL DUDES? Just message of Love from all the sources is NOT ENOUGH, direct intervention is required! OM SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI Ekanath Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2001 Report Share Posted December 23, 2001 Om Amriteshwariye Namah fyi: I have CCed this message to SSB's sanyasin as well as Dayamita Swami ji. ONCE AGAIN I'm not interested in joining any of those mandalis of SSB followers. I have silent respect and love for SSB and effort of tthose devotees but I don't respect their influences / manipulations on other devotees or spiritual places. Om :ekanath Ammachi, Dilip Raheja <ekanath> wrote: > > Om > > I had recently written a long letter to Swamin of SSB with respect yet questioning her why and what am i going thru and why are her own people trying to put it on her (when they themselves are the culprits). I haven't got the reply (in a email or as such). > > > > I expereinced one serious 'attack' (what I call it) on me yesterday - so the subject of this email "Bliss or ...". By the same thing had happened to several times in past 1 year, everytime it happened within minutes I lost the jobs, person I'm with for no reason started conflict with me, the opportunity in hand got lost completely, i pretty much felt unconcious, all of a sudden bad temper, body shivering, spritual drainage, .... family member taken to hospital, etc.... you got the idea - serious manipulation at the spirit level (effect triggers down to mental to physical level). My assesment is that was 'evil' influence, originating from my contact with some of those fake devotees in some way or other and their aggresive invasion. > > > > I know Ammachi has followers of different groups and that's so nice about it. Let me first greet Sai Ram to Sai Devotees / Om Namo Shivay to Amma devotees - or just OM with Love of Krishna to everyone. By the way just last friday I received invitation from SaiNEWs-owner to join the sai group and I may join because I have respect for Holy SSB but definately I don't plan to be part of any of their mandalis I know of. By the way on the average I attended 1 satsang of SSB every 4-6 months in last 12 years because I didn't feel there was need, moreso I didn't feel presence of that devotion I had experienced in past. Anyway, that's my interpretation or maturity level - I have respect for everyone for at least their effort towards but please don't encroach others, put serious efforts. > > > > Now let me share one more episode of same expereince which result in what I call teh 'evil' influence on me as well as on surroundings. On Friday night I attended one other Satsang for first time and I noticed someone with the similar look alike with the one lady who had started lots of my problems. Then later next morning around 6am or so, [i'm partially awake after 5am most of the times] I feel strong influence of same lady and some of her friends on my mind. Later during prayer I felt presence of mostly bad vibrations from same group. I started driving towards Shiva - Vishnu temple and on the way I passed by the houses / shops of some those devotees in Fremont Ardenwood - all of a sudden all the (whatever was left) positive influence / mood is vanishing. Read carefully now and tell me what is it "Bliss or ... something else opposite". > > I had visited SSB during my teen years (20 years ago) and I sort of had His impression on my mind. I didn't really attach to that and I had forgotten it for long until last year. So all of a sudden I start getting visual effect but this time effect is totally opposite. I'm expereincing spiritual drainage, bad words, lose of focus on the road (on a rainy day) and later I'm sitting dazed / unconcious for long time in the Balaji temple with my eyes closed - totally exhausted - no knowledge of where I'm. It was like someone took away all the blood from my body and was totally 'asuri' influence. Then pooja started and slowly I felt revival but it took me 1+ hour to overcome those negative influences. > > > > Similar presence of 'supposed SSB' has caused me serious damage as mentioned above, I know it's Not Him but some people playing evil with His vibrations / Bliss. Our local Bay area groups are directly involved and they have help from India. So I have CCed this message directly to the Swamin from SSB group I had talked about several times. I have CCed to Dayamrita Swaimji also ---- Can someone stop these evil inflences on me and my surroundings. Sometimes I feel Guru gives Grace to the students but who will remove the Greed and Ego from the minds of those selfish devotees who would misuse the Grace to terrorize other new devotees and other spiritual activities. > > > > As per our Hindu scriptues, I understand the place of Guru as God but who takes responsibility of damages caused by the same devotees who run the centers, etc...? > > > > What kind of practises are being followed by those SSB devotees? I know there are quite a few in Ammachi Center also and they want me to pray to SSB also. How can I pray or keep picture or anything .... except have my deep respect and Love for Him - because all those externals have caused serious havoc in my life. I know those same devotees take the ownership of Ammachi and SSB, only to push me away. > > > > Until three years ago, I used to pray, read scriptures, follow satvik practises, etc ... I knew there were some mixed personalities around me but I used to manage well to stay away from them. Then I met Amma in Jun 98 and all my spiritual practises, life was accelerated until I started encounter those fake devotees of SSB in our Bay area. Their Greed and Ego tried in vain to manipulate me. They managed their way to Amma's devotees also and now my dedication with Amma has been threatened. If I don't want to do 108 names or Lalitha, it should be my choice. I don't want people to enforce their views on me! These SSB devotes have gone too far - IS THERE ANYBODY (SANYASI(N), AMMA, SSB) WHO CAN STOP THOSE NAZIES AND STOP THEM FROM THEIR EVIL PRACTISES. > > > > With Love and Respect for SSB, I conclude why has His memories have been like "curse" to me, why has His caused me so much destruction, ..... why are Amma devotees helping those same people of Bay area and other places???????? > > > > WHY WHY - IF GURU IS GOD And DISCIPLES / SANYASI(N) ARE CLOSE TO THE GURU - HOW CAN THEY TOLERATE (OR ENCOURAGE?) THOSE EVIL DUDES? Just message of Love from all the sources is NOT ENOUGH, direct intervention is required! > > > > OM SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI > > > > Ekanath > > > > Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Greetings. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 > IS THERE ANYBODY (SANYASI(N), AMMA,SSB) > WHO CAN STOP THOSE NAZIES AND STOP THEM > FROM THEIR EVIL PRACTISES. Honestly, if it's really this bad, it seems like planetary influences/karma. If you've got money to spend, I'm sure there's special pujas that you can have performed, or check with your local temple pundit or the internet for a "kavach" pendant or yantra like those sold here: http://www.vedicstore.com/products.html But, as Dayamrita suggested to you already, daily chanting of the 1000 names is also a remedy for negating evil effects. As a Tantric practice, you can also chant various "armor" slokas to provide protection, such as the one usually chanted with the Chandi Paath/Devi Mahaatmyam, or the 16 Eternities armor, the English translation of which is given here: http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/gthursby/tantra/kavacha.htm Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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