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A couple of years ago, I bought an engraved white metal Sri Yantra, and

brought it with me to Ammachi when I went up for darshan. As she

prepared to hug me, I held it out to her, and she smiled broadly and

said, "Sri Yantra, eh?" and kissed it.

 

It is on my altar, and I wave incense before it when doing puja to my

deities, chanting a <shloka> to Durga during the waxing Moon, and one to

Kali during the waning Moon.

 

So it seems Amma approves of the use of the Sri Yantra (although I feel I

don't really have a good idea of how to properly worship it).

 

Now I'm wondering about other yantras, though. Woulkd Amma approve of

using a yantra designed for specific purposes? There are yantras

designed to remove debts, or assure the birth of a son, or cause your

opponent in court to not present his case well, or to inspire your

enemies to get divorced.

 

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 07:38:23 -0800 (PST) Yoga man <childofdevi

writes:

> Namaste!

>

> Recently one of my close friends had a yantra built

> for a specific purpose and upon commencement of

> worship of the yantra, the result was truly stunning.

> This was really a big surprise for me as I was

> lifelong skeptic of yantras. And I did notice that

> some books of Amma have the Sriyantra(on the cover) in

> it, there are also a couple of Sriyantras that I have

> seen in the Ashram at Vallikavu.

> The deity of the Sriyantra has been variously

> described as Tripurasundari, Lalitha, Laxmi etc by

> different traditions.

>

> My question is - does Amma recommend a yantra based

> worship?

>

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Namaste!

 

Recently one of my close friends had a yantra built

for a specific purpose and upon commencement of

worship of the yantra, the result was truly stunning.

This was really a big surprise for me as I was

lifelong skeptic of yantras. And I did notice that

some books of Amma have the Sriyantra(on the cover) in

it, there are also a couple of Sriyantras that I have

seen in the Ashram at Vallikavu.

The deity of the Sriyantra has been variously

described as Tripurasundari, Lalitha, Laxmi etc by

different traditions.

 

My question is - does Amma recommend a yantra based

worship?

 

Aum Namasivaya

Vijay Pillai

 

 

 

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On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 10:42:59 -0000 "tomgull" <tomgull writes:

>

> I've started to use a Sri Yantra in front of an oil

> lamp while listening to the L.Sahasranama stotra tape.

> I just make sure to polish it at least weekly and try

> to offer it the 5-element puja, even if it's just

> mentally. What intrigues me is the numerical yantras.

> tom

>

 

Are you talking about the numbered three-by-three magic squares where the

rows, columns, and diagonals all add up to the same number? They're used

to invoke different planetary energies? Or are you talking about

something else?

 

The same magic squares are found in Hebrew Kaballistic treatises, the

Chinese I Ching, all sorts of far-flung traditions.

 

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

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>From my understanding:

 

I have never heard or read of Amma promoting or not

promoting the use or worship of yantras.

Traditionally yantra (tantric) worship requires more

strict adherence to the various rules of the worship,

at least if that's going to be a sadhana, especially

if it involves actually drawing the yantra, versus

purchasing a common engraved one. There's books

available in how to prepare simple yantras and describe

the various materials to use.

 

Yantra literally means "machine", and is a more

subtle form of the deity than the person form, but more

gross than the mantra form. If you're invoking a deity

through its yantra form, its supposedly more important

to follow the specific rules, as the personal form

may be more forgiving that the subtle form. In other

words, it's the difference between having Amma come over

to your house in her person form, and appearing

as formless radiance, etc. itself, which you may not be

able to properly worship or attend to.

 

I've started to use a Sri Yantra in front of an oil

lamp while listening to the L.Sahasranama stotra tape.

I just make sure to polish it at least weekly and try

to offer it the 5-element puja, even if it's just

mentally. What intrigues me is the numerical yantras.

tom

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On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 10:42:59 -0000 "tomgull" <tomgull writes:

>

> Yantra literally means "machine", and is a more

> subtle form of the deity than the person form, but more

> gross than the mantra form. If you're invoking a deity

> through its yantra form, its supposedly more important

> to follow the specific rules, as the personal form

> may be more forgiving that the subtle form.

 

Hmmm... I seem to recall Harish Johari writing that, at least so far as

planetary yantras are concerned, the yantras are easier to use than a

<murti> of the planet's deity, which has to be specially installed by a

priest.

 

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

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> Hmmm... I seem to recall Harish Johari writing that,

> at least so far as planetary yantras are concerned, the

> yantras are easier to use than a <murti> of the planet's

> deity, which has to be specially installed by a priest.

 

>From my understanding of Tantra and I'm certainly no expert,

Formal pranapratishta (seating/installing of the prana) for

permanent murthi's such as a temple, the same procedures

are required for a permanently installed yantra, just as

a statue.

 

 

> Are you talking about the numbered three-by-three magic

> squares where the rows, columns, and diagonals all add

> up to the same number? They're used to invoke different

> planetary energies? Or are you talking about something else?

> The same magic squares are found in Hebrew Kaballistic

> treatises, the Chinese I Ching, all sorts of far-flung

> traditions.

 

There are some 3 x 3 numerical yantras on the copper yantras

for planets that I have. But I'm talking about the ones listed

below. Specifically, there's one corresponding to the Nitya

Armor prayer that I've uploaded into the files section here,

and if you check the graphic of Durga in the files section, as

many paintings of Durga or Amba, etc. there'll usually be the

Durga numerical yantra at the very bottom. Many times the

numbers will be the sanskrit form of the number.

 

Durga numerical yantra (ignore the author's comments about

reversing the order of the numbers):

http://www.yogamagik.com/yogamagik/sacredgeometry/

 

Note the triangular form of the yantra. The Triangle

is representative of fire, and Durga (and Rudra) represent

the mystical/divine fire.

 

Graphic of Nitya (Lalitha) Armor numerical yantra:

http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/gthursby/tantra/kavacha.htm

 

Other numerical yantras, similar to the ones in a book I have:

http://www.teoindia.com//yantra2.htm

 

tom

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On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:11:41 -0000 "tomgull" <tomgull writes:

>

> > Are you talking about the numbered three-by-three magic

> > squares...

 

> There are some 3 x 3 numerical yantras on the copper yantras

> for planets that I have. But I'm talking about the ones listed

> below. Specifically, there's one corresponding to the Nitya

> Armor prayer that I've uploaded into the files section here,

> and if you check the graphic of Durga in the files section, as

> many paintings of Durga or Amba, etc. there'll usually be the

> Durga numerical yantra at the very bottom. Many times the

> numbers will be the sanskrit form of the number.

>

> Durga numerical yantra (ignore the author's comments about

> reversing the order of the numbers):

> http://www.yogamagik.com/yogamagik/sacredgeometry/

>

> Note the triangular form of the yantra. The Triangle

> is representative of fire, and Durga (and Rudra) represent

> the mystical/divine fire.

 

I can't access Websites on this computer, but I'm very familiar with the

triangular yantra for Durga. It's actually a triskele, a sort of

pinwheel with three blades (the Celts liked them, too!), and marked off

into nine numbered sections, 9 being Durga's number. Last Autumn, for

Navaratri, Durga's festival, I drew the numbered yantra, and had the nine

attendees at a puja I held pull chits with the nine names of Durga out of

a hat, and daub kum-kum on the equivalent numbered section. The nine

Durgas are:

 

1 - Shailaputri (daughter of the peak)

2 - Brahmacharini (celibate student)

3 - Chandraghanta (lunar bell)

4 - Kushmanda (yellow gourd)

5 - Skandamata (mother of the spiritual warrior)

6 - Katyayani (unmarried one)

7 - Kalaratri (night of time)

8 - Mahagauri (great golden one)

9 - Siddhidatri (giver of magic)

 

I picked <Mahagauri>, for what it's worth...

 

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

>

> Graphic of Nitya (Lalitha) Armor numerical yantra:

> http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/gthursby/tantra/kavacha.htm

>

> Other numerical yantras, similar to the ones in a book I have:

> http://www.teoindia.com//yantra2.htm

>

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