Guest guest Posted July 19, 2002 Report Share Posted July 19, 2002 I think I've quoted Amma on this before, but it's worth repeating. In one of the books, Amma says that a sadhak should only spend the first few years in close contact with the guru, then should spend time in solitude doing sadhana. Of course going going for annual darshan would still be ok. Whether you're married or not, having "bubble-time" (your own private bubble) as an ex-girlfriend used to call it, is healthy regardless of the reason. Being alone also helps in the later stretches of sadhana when you are doing it differently, sort of like the final lap in a race when you don't want any distractions. There are also times when you'll become very sensitive to subtle vibrations and being alone will be a great help, kind of like when you have a migraine headache and are sensitive to light and sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2002 Report Share Posted July 20, 2002 My thought is that marriage is such a dance it is easy to get out of step while in it. Getting out of sync will affect everything. I have been married for nearly 14 years and I have 5 wonderful children. I will admit with the kids it is hard to sometimes do my practices. I will be doing yoga and someone needs me and I have to stop or I go to meditate and someone falls or starts a tiff with a sibling. But what I am learning to do (and I wish Amma would help householders in this area) is to see the disturbance as being able to serve God/dess and make it an offering. I am sure if I was single I could do more yoga and have longer meditations and read more spiritual books and so on. Instead of chanting while I do dishes ,fold laundry or work in my garden. Or sing while I cook dinner and clean up dirty faces. I offer up my anger and actions when my two year old breaks a dozen eggs on the floor and the fridge (he did this the other night honestly) and I try to see that my children are my spiritual path and threw my love for them and the things I must do to take care of the family as my meditation and devotion. I know Amma understands. This does not mean I do not have days where I want to cry and I ask Kali why my life is this way or what I did wrong. Those days are just harder to see that my work is my meditation. Also it is so very important that a man and woman keep their energies ...oh how do I want to put this...blue and pink (My dear sister Venya shared this with me) . A husband must be the God figure and keep to his roles and a woman be the Divine Mother figure and to her roles. This is something that has taken me years to see. When my husband works to much or is to tired to do what he needs to do and I fill in for him and be "dad" it really does mess with the energies of our home. I can't be blue and still keep the pink going if you know what I mean. It sends me out of balance. And if I am busy and he is home trying to do all the things of wife and mother it throws him out of balance and then this affects the entire house. You can feel it and nearly see it when our home is out of balance. I think here in America ( I can't say in other places since I have never been anywhere) the role of husband/father and wife/mother are not looked at highly in society. It is a challenge for me to be a full time stay at home mother who homeschools. People often ask me if I am crazy or why don't I get a job? I believe I have the most important job in the world but there are days that to many people have asked me those types of questions and I want to hide. All of this affects my energy and if I have or make the time to have my quiet time in the morning or in the evening. So like i mentioned earlier I try to find other ways to keep God on my mind. It is a hard balance and dance. When I was single I could read and meditate and sit by the ocean and talk with divine uninterrupted My thoughts were for God and myself. Now I must think of God/dess, myself, husband and children. It makes for a full plate...but honestly I wouldn't have it any other way. I just wish Amma would share more of her wisdom to a western stay at home mommy. Jai Ma! Shelly Mommy to 5 CT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2002 Report Share Posted July 20, 2002 Dear Shelly, Many years ago I asked Mother how I could serve Her, and Her answer was to dedicate everything I do to Her. What a wonderful Seva to be taking care of your kids! Namah Shivaya Prasadini kalima wrote: > My thought is that marriage is such a dance it is easy to get out of > step > while in it. Getting out of sync will affect everything. I have been > married for nearly 14 years and I have 5 wonderful children. I will > admit > with the kids it is hard to sometimes do my practices. I will be doing > yoga > and someone needs me and I have to stop or I go to meditate and > someone > falls or starts a tiff with a sibling. But what I am learning to do > (and I > wish Amma would help householders in this area) is to see the > disturbance as > being able to serve God/dess and make it an offering. > > I am sure if I was single I could do more yoga and have longer > meditations > and read more spiritual books and so on. Instead of chanting while I > do > dishes ,fold laundry or work in my garden. Or sing while I cook dinner > and > clean up dirty faces. I offer up my anger and actions when my two > year old > breaks a dozen eggs on the floor and the fridge (he did this the other > night > honestly) and I try to see that my children are my spiritual path and > threw > my love for them and the things I must do to take care of the family > as my > meditation and devotion. I know Amma understands. > > This does not mean I do not have days where I want to cry and I ask > Kali why > my life is this way or what I did wrong. Those days are just harder to > see > that my work is my meditation. > > Also it is so very important that a man and woman keep their energies > ...oh > how do I want to put this...blue and pink (My dear sister Venya shared > this > with me) . A husband must be the God figure and keep to his roles and > a > woman be the Divine Mother figure and to her roles. This is something > that > has taken me years to see. When my husband works to much or is to > tired to > do what he needs to do and I fill in for him and be "dad" it really > does > mess with the energies of our home. I can't be blue and still keep the > pink > going if you know what I mean. It sends me out of balance. And if I am > busy > and he is home trying to do all the things of wife and mother it > throws him > out of balance and then this affects the entire house. You can feel it > and > nearly see it when our home is out of balance. > > I think here in America ( I can't say in other places since I have > never > been anywhere) the role of husband/father and wife/mother are not > looked at > highly in society. It is a challenge for me to be a full time stay at > home > mother who homeschools. People often ask me if I am crazy or why don't > I get > a job? I believe I have the most important job in the world but there > are > days that to many people have asked me those types of questions and I > want > to hide. > > All of this affects my energy and if I have or make the time to have > my > quiet time in the morning or in the evening. So like i mentioned > earlier I > try to find other ways to keep God on my mind. It is a hard balance > and > dance. > > When I was single I could read and meditate and sit by the ocean and > talk > with divine uninterrupted My thoughts were for God and myself. Now I > must > think of God/dess, myself, husband and children. It makes for a full > plate...but honestly I wouldn't have it any other way. I just wish > Amma > would share more of her wisdom to a western stay at home mommy. > > Jai Ma! > > Shelly > Mommy to 5 > CT > > > > > Sponsor > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Ammachi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 I absolutely agree , finding spirituality in marriage and children daily chores is a challenge, I don't think Amma means that single or married lives are better or worse, it is a matter of individual choice regardless of one , following once Dharma is the key issue , there are also struggles on single path , Amma in one of the articles from Amrituapuri newsletters , mentions that renunciation does not mean running into woods away from society , I understand renunciation can also be present in marridge, in a sense of detachment ( not being careless ) but rather detached .... , doing laundry , sweeping after kids , cleaning the dishes is also form of meditation, if one can attain such state, where all forms of action become offering and meditation to Amma is the ultimate goal, Married life should not be looked down upon , and certainly Amma does not , She is fully aware of what married life is , after all She is a Mother kalima <kalima wrote: > My thought is that marriage is such a dance it is > easy to get out of step > while in it. Getting out of sync will affect > everything. I have been > married for nearly 14 years and I have 5 wonderful > children. I will admit > with the kids it is hard to sometimes do my > practices. I will be doing yoga > and someone needs me and I have to stop or I go to > meditate and someone > falls or starts a tiff with a sibling. But what I > am learning to do (and I > wish Amma would help householders in this area) is > to see the disturbance as > being able to serve God/dess and make it an > offering. > > I am sure if I was single I could do more yoga and > have longer meditations > and read more spiritual books and so on. Instead of > chanting while I do > dishes ,fold laundry or work in my garden. Or sing > while I cook dinner and > clean up dirty faces. I offer up my anger and > actions when my two year old > breaks a dozen eggs on the floor and the fridge (he > did this the other night > honestly) and I try to see that my children are my > spiritual path and threw > my love for them and the things I must do to take > care of the family as my > meditation and devotion. I know Amma understands. > > This does not mean I do not have days where I want > to cry and I ask Kali why > my life is this way or what I did wrong. Those days > are just harder to see > that my work is my meditation. > > Also it is so very important that a man and woman > keep their energies ...oh > how do I want to put this...blue and pink (My dear > sister Venya shared this > with me) . A husband must be the God figure and keep > to his roles and a > woman be the Divine Mother figure and to her roles. > This is something that > has taken me years to see. When my husband works to > much or is to tired to > do what he needs to do and I fill in for him and be > "dad" it really does > mess with the energies of our home. I can't be blue > and still keep the pink > going if you know what I mean. It sends me out of > balance. And if I am busy > and he is home trying to do all the things of wife > and mother it throws him > out of balance and then this affects the entire > house. You can feel it and > nearly see it when our home is out of balance. > > I think here in America ( I can't say in other > places since I have never > been anywhere) the role of husband/father and > wife/mother are not looked at > highly in society. It is a challenge for me to be a > full time stay at home > mother who homeschools. People often ask me if I am > crazy or why don't I get > a job? I believe I have the most important job in > the world but there are > days that to many people have asked me those types > of questions and I want > to hide. > > All of this affects my energy and if I have or make > the time to have my > quiet time in the morning or in the evening. So like > i mentioned earlier I > try to find other ways to keep God on my mind. It > is a hard balance and > dance. > > When I was single I could read and meditate and sit > by the ocean and talk > with divine uninterrupted My thoughts were for God > and myself. Now I must > think of God/dess, myself, husband and children. It > makes for a full > plate...but honestly I wouldn't have it any other > way. I just wish Amma > would share more of her wisdom to a western stay at > home mommy. > > Jai Ma! > > Shelly > Mommy to 5 > CT > > > > Health - Feel better, live better http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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