Jump to content
IndiaDivine.org

Help Locating Story

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Guest guest

A friend of mine is doing some research for an article he wants to write.

He¹s trying to find a story and thinks it is either in the Ramayana or Yoga

Vasishtha. Can anyone remember where it is? Here¹s the story:

 

There¹s a story where Rama, at the age of 16, looks at an assembly of kings

(probably gathered on the occasion of his marriage to Sita), and sees that

they are nothing, that all their titles and decorations are nothing compared

to him. Something like that.

 

I could not locate in the Ramayana although I remember reading it. It¹s

probably in the Yoga Vasishtha, in one of the first chapters (I don¹t have a

copy).

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

According to an English translation of the Kambhan (Tamil) Ramayana

that I broght home from Kerala last year, there are even more

Ramayanas than I ever knew, nearly one in every major Indian

language. You might try sending the question to creators of

websites on the different version of the story. I know there are

sites on the Valmiki and Tulsidas versions. I'll send the question

to my Bengali friend who has recently enjoyed the Krittivasa (Bengali

writer) version.

 

It could come just before Rama lifted Shiva's bow and won Sita. In

the versions I've read, Rama is presented as someone who isn't aware

of his status as an avatar but it would fit in the story just before

he lifts the bow without negating the idea that he didn't know he was

an avatar.

 

Aikya

 

Ammachi, Rick Archer <rick@s...> wrote:

> A friend of mine is doing some research for an article he wants to

write.

> He¹s trying to find a story and thinks it is either in the Ramayana

or Yoga

> Vasishtha. Can anyone remember where it is? Here¹s the story:

>

> There¹s a story where Rama, at the age of 16, looks at an assembly

of kings

> (probably gathered on the occasion of his marriage to Sita), and

sees that

> they are nothing, that all their titles and decorations are nothing

compared

> to him. Something like that.

>

> I could not locate in the Ramayana although I remember reading it.

It¹s

> probably in the Yoga Vasishtha, in one of the first chapters (I

don¹t have a

> copy).

>

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

I checked the Kambhan Ramayana (English translation) yesterday --

the story of the visit of Rama, Lakshmana and their archery guru to

King Janaka during the period when the king was seeking someone who

could lift Lord Shiva's bow and win Sita as wife. With the exception

of telling how Rama and Sita fell in love with each other

immediately, Kambhan doesn't tell what Rama was thinking. He has the

guru extolling the greatness of Rama's solar lineage. Great

description of Rama wielding the bow and the reaction of all the

women who immediately had a crush on him.

 

I think one of the versions of Ramayana will have the section you

describe. Alas I do not have either TulsiDas or Valmiki in

original. Valmiki is an encyclopedia sized collection of books.

 

Good luck.

 

Aikya

 

Ammachi, Rick Archer <rick@s...> wrote:

> A friend of mine is doing some research for an article he wants to

write.

> He¹s trying to find a story and thinks it is either in the Ramayana

or Yoga

> Vasishtha. Can anyone remember where it is? Here¹s the story:

>

> There¹s a story where Rama, at the age of 16, looks at an assembly

of kings

> (probably gathered on the occasion of his marriage to Sita), and

sees that

> they are nothing, that all their titles and decorations are nothing

compared

> to him. Something like that.

>

> I could not locate in the Ramayana although I remember reading it.

It¹s

> probably in the Yoga Vasishtha, in one of the first chapters (I

don¹t have a

> copy).

>

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, aikya wrote:

 

> could lift Lord Shiva's bow and win Sita as wife. With the exception

> of telling how Rama and Sita fell in love with each other

 

That's interesting !

I never knew that there was a description of this since in India most marriages

are "arranged".

 

> Valmiki is an encyclopedia sized collection of books.

 

Not really - it comes in 2 volumes and I ordered it from www.vedanta.com for ~

$40.

It has the original Sanskrit text and an English translation.

 

Namashivaya

- Girish

 

 

> Ammachi, Rick Archer <rick@s...> wrote:

> > A friend of mine is doing some research for an article he wants to

> write.

> > He¹s trying to find a story and thinks it is either in the Ramayana

> or Yoga

> > Vasishtha. Can anyone remember where it is? Here¹s the story:

> >

> > There¹s a story where Rama, at the age of 16, looks at an assembly

> of kings

> > (probably gathered on the occasion of his marriage to Sita), and

> sees that

> > they are nothing, that all their titles and decorations are nothing

> compared

> > to him. Something like that.

> >

> > I could not locate in the Ramayana although I remember reading it.

> It¹s

> > probably in the Yoga Vasishtha, in one of the first chapters (I

> don¹t have a

> > copy).

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

>

> Ammachi

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

The original Sanskrit is at least 10-12 volumes. Swami Dayananda got

it as a gift before my course in 1979. As a result he would read

some each day at the start of our course and come tell us about the

selection that he read at evening satsangh. A huge amount of

material is included regarding Dasharatha's kingdom, city planning,

how the government worked, elaborate descriptions of Ravana's flying

machine, and of the weaponry and mantra science, etc. etc. It could

be that such sections are removed in some editions and only

the "story" left. That is the part most people are interested in

anyway.

 

To some student's extreme distress, Swamiji told us a lot of the

other, the parts that are not "the story." After a month or so of

city layout and legislative and judicial details accompanied by

grumbling, he said he chose to share those parts because they showed

the greatness of ancient India. Such verses would be wonderful

training in kingship for Rama's twin sons, Lava and Kusha, who are

said to have memorized it all.

 

In spite of arranged marriage, Kambhan can tell about Rama and

Sita "falling in love." Poetic license, eh? Kambhan describes Rama as

perturbed by his sudden fascination with Sita. Everything he sees

reminds him of her. Sita for her part takes to cooling remedies, so

overcome is she with longing for Rama, cool and dark as a rain

cloud. There is no insight into Rama's inner dialogues when he lifts

Shiva's bow.

 

Kambhan said it took 60 thousand soldiers to carry the bow to Rama.

The people around feel sorry for Rama because he is only a boy and

all the mighty kings have failed. They feel sorry for Sita because

she will never get married at this rate. When Rama steps forward to

seize the bow, all the women become delighted with Him and begin

discussing who He is, whether Dasharatha's son or Lord Vishnu

Himself, dark as a rain cloud. Thus we are set up to be amazed that

Rama easily lifts the bow. His movements to string it are done so

quickly that no one sees them but only hears the crack of the bow as

it breaks. Then everyone is joyful and the opinion shifts more

toward seeing Rama as Lord Vishnu because only He could wield Shiva's

bow.

 

Like all the versions, Kambhan's is delicious. So many people have

gown up knowing and loving it.

 

Aikya

 

Ammachi, Girish <girishv@e...> wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, aikya wrote:

>

> > could lift Lord Shiva's bow and win Sita as wife. With the

exception

> > of telling how Rama and Sita fell in love with each other

>

> That's interesting !

> I never knew that there was a description of this since in India

most marriages

> are "arranged".

>

> > Valmiki is an encyclopedia sized collection of books.

>

> Not really - it comes in 2 volumes and I ordered it from

www.vedanta.com for ~ $40.

> It has the original Sanskrit text and an English translation.

>

> Namashivaya

> - Girish

>

>

> > Ammachi, Rick Archer <rick@s...> wrote:

> > > A friend of mine is doing some research for an article he wants

to

> > write.

> > > He¹s trying to find a story and thinks it is either in the

Ramayana

> > or Yoga

> > > Vasishtha. Can anyone remember where it is? Here¹s the story:

> > >

> > > There¹s a story where Rama, at the age of 16, looks at an

assembly

> > of kings

> > > (probably gathered on the occasion of his marriage to Sita), and

> > sees that

> > > they are nothing, that all their titles and decorations are

nothing

> > compared

> > > to him. Something like that.

> > >

> > > I could not locate in the Ramayana although I remember reading

it.

> > It¹s

> > > probably in the Yoga Vasishtha, in one of the first chapters (I

> > don¹t have a

> > > copy).

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

> >

> > Ammachi-

> >

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

 

> >

> >

> >

> >

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

> There is no insight into Rama's inner

> dialogues when he lifts

> Shiva's bow.

 

I have a version of the Ramayana by R.K. Narayan.

According to the title page it is "Suggested by the

Tamil version of Kamban".

 

Here's how Narayan describes Rama's falling in love

with Sita:

 

At the guest house, Rama retired for the night. In

the seclusion of his bedroom, he began to brood over

the girl he had noticed on the palace balcony. For

him too, the moon seemed to emphasize his sense of

loneliness. Although he had exhibited no sign of it,

deeply within he felt a disturbance. His innate sense

of discipline and propriety had made him conceal his

feelings before other people. Now he kept thinking of

the girl on the balcony and longed for another sight

of her. Who could she be? Nothing to indicate that

she was a princess - could be any one among the

hundreds of girls in a palace. She could not be

married: Rama realized that if she were married he

would instinctively have recoiled from her. Now he

caught himself contemplating her in every detail. He

fancied that she was standing before him and longed to

enclose those breasts in his embrace. He said to

himself, "Even if I cannot take her in my arms, shall

I ever get another glimpse, however briefly, of that

radiant face and those lips? Eyes, lips, those curly

locks falling on the forehead - every item of those

features seemingly poised to attack and quell me - me

on whose bow depended on the destruction of demons,

now at the mercy of one* who wields only a bow of

sugarcane and uses flowers for arrows..." Hs smiled at

the irony of it.

* Manmatha, the god of love.

 

>

> Kambhan said it took 60 thousand soldiers to carry

> the bow to Rama.

 

In Narayan's text: "The bow was placed in a carriage

and arrived drawn by a vast number of men. During its

passage from its shed through the streets, a crowd

followed it. It as so huge that no one could

comprehend it at one glance".

 

>

> Like all the versions, Kambhan's is delicious. So

> many people have

> gown up knowing and loving it.

>

> Aikya

>

 

I would recommend R.K. Narayan's Ramayana. It's only

171 pages (in the Penguin paperback edition) so it

won't take more than one lifetime to read :)

 

 

Keval

 

 

 

Health - Feel better, live better

http://health.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Aikya,

 

When I said 2 volumes, I probably neglected to mention that each volume is about

1500 pages

and weighs about 5 pounds. Spiritual and physical benefits have been found from

lifting and reading this ;-))

 

Namashivaya

- Girish

 

On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, aikya wrote:

 

> The original Sanskrit is at least 10-12 volumes. Swami Dayananda got

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

http://www.hindubooks.org/books_by_rajaji/

 

These books are an excellent introduction to India's epics. Most

people who did their schooling in India have read this in one form or

the other. (As a matter of fact one of the chapters from the

Mahabharata was in our English text book ! No talk about separation of

church and state ;-)) )

 

-Girish

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...