Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 Soulquest: Gayatri is the Australian woman, who was among the very first devotees of Amma, back before there was any ashram. If you read the Awaken series, it will tell you everything you need to know about this. Why and how she left is not public knowledge. I have heard that Amma was "upset" about it and did not give Her blessing, as it were. She is now living in Hawaii, apparently at the good graces of friends who support her; as you may know, Hawaii is not a cheap place to live; it is probably the highest cost of living in U.S. As well, Ambol, another female devotee of long-standing service to Amma (not as long though) went with her to Hawaii, due to their kinship, as far as I can intuit. To get clear on these things, I can recommend David Godman's Living by the Words of bhagavan, about Ramana Maharshi. If you really want to know what goes on with Gurus, pay attention to the story, heretofore not published anywhere, about Perumal Swami. It will give perspective on these matters. Avram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 Ammachi, sprose1@a... wrote: > Why and how she left is not public knowledge. One day, i hope, we shall all find out. > I have heard that Amma was "upset" about it and did not give Her > blessing, One more thing to add, to my long list of things that I do not understad. I do recall reading once in one of Amma's book that once she offered darshan to a man that refused her darshan and that this also got her "upset". Her reaction in that case, also made me wonder. However since I am far from understanding all the facts, making a judgement would be improper. However, the question remains the same. Somewere in the Gita says something close to: "It is better to be wrong on your own path, than to follow perfectly the path of another." Most teachers will say that the self resides in the cave of the heart. Amma herself told me once "follow your hearth" Things are hardly ever the way they look. Namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 Ammachi, sprose1@a... wrote: > Soulquest: > Does she continue to observe her sanyassa vows, does anyone know? She is now > living in Hawaii, apparently at the good graces of friends who support her; > as you may know, Hawaii is not a cheap place to live; it is probably the > highest cost of living in U.S. As well, Ambol, another female devotee of > long-standing service to Amma (not as long though) went with her to Hawaii, > due to their kinship, as far as I can intuit. Could you maybe say a little about this account re:Perumal Swami. I am really interested in knowing this and at the moment don't have access to this book. > To get clear on these things, I can recommend David Godman's Living by the > Words of bhagavan, about Ramana Maharshi. If you really want to know what > goes on with Gurus, pay attention to the story, heretofore not published > anywhere, about Perumal Swami. It will give perspective on these matters. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 Ammachi, "rastanaga" <rastanaga> wrote: > Ammachi, sprose1@a... wrote: > Somewere in the Gita says something close to: > > "It is better to be wrong on your own path, than to follow perfectly > the path of another." > Better to follow perform ones own dharma imperfectly than to perform another's dharma perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 > To get clear on these things, I can recommend David Godman's Living by the > Words of bhagavan, about Ramana Maharshi. Can you give is the gist of the story, or the main point you think is significant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 > Somewere in the Gita says something close to: > > "It is better to be wrong on your own path, than to follow perfectly > the path of another." > Just for the record, it¹s: ³Because one can perform it, one¹s own dharma, though lesser in merit, is better than the dharma of another. Better is death in one¹s own dharma. The dharma of another brings danger.² Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 Ammachi, Rick Archer <rick@s...> wrote: > > Somewere in the Gita says something close to: > > > > "It is better to be wrong on your own path, than to follow perfectly > > the path of another." > > > Just for the record, it¹s: > > ³Because one can perform it, one¹s own dharma, though lesser in merit, is > better than the dharma of another. Better is death in one¹s own dharma. The > dharma of another brings danger.² This is when understanding Sanskrit comes out handy =) (yet, another way of saying the same thing by dif. autors.=>) Chap. 3.35 "Of greater merit is one's own duty however imperfectly done, than the dharma of another performed to perfection. Worthy is death in the discharge of one's own duty; the duty of another is faught with fear." ------ "One's inferior natural work is better than superior unnatural work. Death in carrying out one's one natural work is useful. Unatural work produces too much stress" --------------- Pick the one you like best, they all mean the same to me. Thanks Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 Another book on Guru/disciple relationships is DAUGHTER OF FIRE which gives details of that relationship. A wonderful story of Irene Tweedie's personal spiritual development. This book may be sold thru MA Center, or can be ordered from a bookstore. - <sprose1 <Ammachi> Saturday, August 17, 2002 8:26 AM Re: Digest Number 569 > Soulquest: > > Gayatri is the Australian woman, who was among the very first devotees of > Amma, back before there was any ashram. If you read the Awaken series, it > will tell you everything you need to know about this. > > Why and how she left is not public knowledge. I have heard that Amma was > "upset" about it and did not give Her blessing, as it were. She is now > living in Hawaii, apparently at the good graces of friends who support her; > as you may know, Hawaii is not a cheap place to live; it is probably the > highest cost of living in U.S. As well, Ambol, another female devotee of > long-standing service to Amma (not as long though) went with her to Hawaii, > due to their kinship, as far as I can intuit. > > To get clear on these things, I can recommend David Godman's Living by the > Words of bhagavan, about Ramana Maharshi. If you really want to know what > goes on with Gurus, pay attention to the story, heretofore not published > anywhere, about Perumal Swami. It will give perspective on these matters. > Avram > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Ammachi > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2002 Report Share Posted August 18, 2002 Yes, I agree. Definitely it's on my short list of finest spiritual books. Irina Tweedie was a Naqshbandi Sufi, and her work is being carried on in this country by Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee and the Golden Sufi Center in Inverness, CA. In my humble opinion, Llewellyn is one of the few authentic spiritual masters/teachers alive today. He speaks truth and writes and talks about the guru/disciple relationship in ways that the westerner (at least "moi") can understand. He is always informative, but I believe the book (and I may be mistaken) that dealt most with guru/disciple relationship "Sufism: the Transformation of the Heart." There's also helpful in his autobiography, "The Face Before I Was Born." For Avram, who wonders about ego-death, he's an excellent choice. "The Circle of Love" is another recommendation. Here's a quote from "The Circle of Love." "The lover's journey is terrible because it takes us into the realm of what is absolute. Because He is without limits, there is no limit to the torture He gives to those who need to come close to Him. From when I first stepped through her door, my fear of my teacher was that I knew she would do anything for the sake of Truth...." Jai Ma, Jyotsna --- Dianna Hutchinson <girija wrote: > Another book on Guru/disciple relationships is > DAUGHTER OF FIRE which gives > details of that relationship. A wonderful story of > Irene Tweedie's personal > spiritual development. This book may be sold thru MA > Center, or can be > ordered from a bookstore. > - > <sprose1 > <Ammachi> > Saturday, August 17, 2002 8:26 AM > Re: Digest Number 569 > > > > Soulquest: > > > > Gayatri is the Australian woman, who was among the > very first devotees of > > Amma, back before there was any ashram. If you > read the Awaken series, it > > will tell you everything you need to know about > this. > > > > Why and how she left is not public knowledge. I > have heard that Amma was > > "upset" about it and did not give Her blessing, as > it were. She is now > > living in Hawaii, apparently at the good graces of > friends who support > her; > > as you may know, Hawaii is not a cheap place to > live; it is probably the > > highest cost of living in U.S. As well, Ambol, > another female devotee of > > long-standing service to Amma (not as long though) > went with her to > Hawaii, > > due to their kinship, as far as I can intuit. > > > > To get clear on these things, I can recommend > David Godman's Living by the > > Words of bhagavan, about Ramana Maharshi. If you > really want to know what > > goes on with Gurus, pay attention to the story, > heretofore not published > > anywhere, about Perumal Swami. It will give > perspective on these matters. > > Avram > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > > Ammachi > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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