Digest Number 579

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The more you chant the Divine Name, the more you pray, the more the mind

will become pure. ~ Amma

 

And i think that the opposite is also true, which is the point of that

terrible thing I posted last night!

 

Negative thoughts sprout like mushrooms after a rain, overcoming the mind,

the person, and so on. It's not that we need to control or censor all these

negatives or not want anyone to think and learn or discuss them, they too are

serve the divine as God is omnipotent and these things have their place. It's

just that a lot of people here on the spiritual path are working to

*cultivate* the positive and therefore manifest the positive in our lives and

our worlds. My post was a reflection of things that I was feeling, from

things that I was reading here lately. Peter, our moderator, is 100% right on

the mark. This is not a politics board, I'm involved in a petition to save

that Nigerian woman for example, and other worldly activities, but can we

come here and leave the "worldly-world" behind and imbibe the nectar of the

spiritual world, can we please have a defining line? Many of us are

struggling against the ugliness that we trudge through every day, and I for

one, joined this list to get my spiritual UP this is my Satsang, and I wish

everybody would treat it like one although I loathe to tell other people what

they should or shouldn't do. I'm asking please, not to censor, or to turn a

blind eye, or to inflict personal will, but I am asking please that we

exercise discrimination for the sake of those of us who come to this list to

find peace and refresh the soul - which is how it's been until lately.

Horrible accidents, social injustice, whatever, it's all negatives, i'm

begging for us to switch gears and go positive, positive, positive. Never to

neglect the truth, just to re-think and re-phrase, for example, "some

horrible accident" or "an injustice" is sufficient to make the point and get

to the spiritual issue and discuss it, but to speak and continue to speak of

details of particular awful incidents is not really necessary, it's sad, very

sad, sadder every day, it's stress which breeds distress, and we are

responsible for every ripple we cause in the water.

 

My apologies to everyone for any offense I may have caused.

 

"Outside, the freezing desert night.

This other night inside grows warm, kindling.

Let the landscape be covered with thorny crust.

We have a soft garden in here.

The continents blasted, cities and little towns, everything

become a scorched, blackened ball.

The news we hear is full of grief for that future,

but the real news inside here

is that there's no news at all."

~ Rumi

 

In a message dated 8/27/02 9:55:22 AM EST, Ammachi writes:

 

<< Lets remember to be in our hearts when the mind asks such questions.

 

Even if your mind found an answer to each question, it will still ask more

questions.

 

In the very act of answering a question, the mind gets trained to ask

another

question .... and on .... and on ... and on.

 

Why not dissolve the question instead of seeking an answer?

 

P >>

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Ammachi, Dianadevi@a... wrote:

> My apologies to everyone for any offense I may have caused.

 

No need to apologize to me, i never took ofence.

 

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I believe that as long as human beings remain there, as long as human

intelligence remains there, some kind of conflict, some kind of

contradiction always remains there.

 

And if we look at contradictions or different ideas, they are not

necessarily negative. Even if we look at our body, there are many

elements co-existing. These elements are opposing one another, they

are contradictory. I think the forces, which contradict one another,

are the basis of further development. Things remain more balanced, and

that is healthy.

 

Therefore, as long as this smart human brain remains there, some kind

of contradiction is always there. Even within one single person.

 

14th Dalai Lama