Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 In a message dated 10/10/02 12:36:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Ammachi writes: > Of course, it is inevitable that when spirituality moves > from theory to application, some heat will be generated. This is as > true in the social sphere as it is in the individual arena. > > Glory to the Divine Mother of Not quite, sir. The heat is not due to the applications, which were listed at the end of this speech. I don't think anyhone would disagree with any of it. The heat is due to the incredible perception of men demonstrated in this speech. it is incredible also that the website took it OFF, and put instead only fragments of the watered down stuff. they should be ashamed of themselves!!!Keeping the ideas of their Guru from the devotees, in the name of what? in the name of what? I bet there was uproar from many males and the management decided to hide the teaching, which seems very close to Amma's heart, btw. I say let the males find out what this Keralite is really all about! How could it be right to do anything else? Soon you will see a modification of the speech, saying that she never really said this and never said that, and never meant this and did not mean that. It's the application, sir, it is the actual theory espoused and implied. read it again. Oh, that's right, they took it off the website.Avram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 Avram, Censorship goes on all the time in the Ammachi publications. I can give lots of examples. For example, Amma did not want live webcast of Devi Bhava, for fear that it would be misunderstood (I heard this from a member of the webpage staff). In another case, there was a story about my smoking on amritapuri.org, where Amma asked me to sit behind her and smell a rose instead of smoking a cigarette. There was some stuff added at the end about temporary worldly pleasures that Amma had never told me. Also omitted was the fact that Amma explicitly asked me NOT to stop smoking -- she asked me to simply reduce it. Amma told me that she and Janani wrote this web story together. I personally have other such examples. And the Swamis, in small closed gatherings, often share happenings around Amma and advice from her that they do not want published or even discussed outside. Most important (and often unimportant) articles are presented to Amma for her approval. So she probably approved what the web people did with her speech. Also, in her Parliament of World Religions (?) last year or so, there was a humorous story in her Malayalam version that was omitted in the English translation that I give below. I think the whole Women Leaders speech may still be on ammachi.org, by the way. Story: Three leaders from religions that had a history of conflict had a peacemaking meeting. An angel who saw this was so pleased at their efforts that he came down and offered each of them a wish. The leader of religion A said, "Destroy all adherents to religion B." The angel was very disappointed, and turned to leader B. He wanted the angel to destory all adherents of religion A. With growing disappointment, the angel turned to leader C. "I don't want anything for myself," leader C humbly said, heartening the angel for a moment. But then leader C continued, "Just fulfil my two colleagues' wishes." Nandu Vallath Nandakumar >sprose1 >Ammachi >Ammachi >Re: Digest Number 621 >Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:27:43 EDT > >In a message dated 10/10/02 12:36:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >Ammachi writes: > > > > Of course, it is inevitable that when spirituality moves > > from theory to application, some heat will be generated. This is as > > true in the social sphere as it is in the individual arena. > > > > Glory to the Divine Mother of > >Not quite, sir. The heat is not due to the applications, which were listed >at the end of this speech. I don't think anyhone would disagree with any >of >it. The heat is due to the incredible perception of men demonstrated in >this >speech. it is incredible also that the website took it OFF, and put >instead >only fragments of the watered down stuff. they should be ashamed of >themselves!!!Keeping the ideas of their Guru from the devotees, in the name >of what? in the name of what? I bet there was uproar from many males and >the management decided to hide the teaching, which seems very close to >Amma's >heart, btw. I say let the males find out what this Keralite is really all >about! How could it be right to do anything else? Soon you will see a >modification of the speech, saying that she never really said this and >never >said that, and never meant this and did not mean that. It's the >application, >sir, it is the actual theory espoused and implied. read it again. Oh, >that's >right, they took it off the website.Avram > > > > Vallath Nandakumar vallathn _______________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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