Unfair Criticism-regd website not showing Amma's speech

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Dear Avram and Others,

 

I checked with my friend who is one of the people

working on Amma's website here at the ashram. What

goes on the web is entirely based on AMMA'S APPROVAL

and as per what AMMA HERSELF says . Therefore Avram, i

think it is unfair for you to say that perhaps some

'males' would have removed the speech themselves etc .

 

I have many sincere friends working day and night on

Amma's website- both men and women who spend hours and

hours every night after work and I know for a fact

that EVERY thing they put on website is after asking

Amma.

 

Amma has Her reasons for what She wants on the web

because Amma wants to pressent everything there in a

wholly uplifting way- maybe thats why the speech is

not there now- it may be there later as part of a

bigger section on the geneva meeting.

 

So lets not fling accusations before ascertaining the

facts,

 

Namah Shivaya

 

bala

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Aikya Param <aikya wrote:

> Dear Ones

>

> Blessedly I received a full text of Amma's speech

> before it began

> vanishing. What she said is in tune with recent

> discoveries in

> gender studies in psychology and genetics as well as

> very ancient

> traditional or indigenous views held around the

> world. For a woman

> who spends most of her time hugging people, our Amma

> doesn't miss

> much.

>

> A few weeks ago, at the M.A. Center we had a slide

> presentation

> recently showing pictures of the goddess around the

> world presented

> by a woman who has made a personal study of this for

> 30-40 years and

> has amassed 12,000 slides with pictures from every

> inhabited

> continent. Going along with each image is the

> message....and it is

> clearer the farther back you go in humna

> history...that woman creates

> the world by birthing people who affect the world.

> For this she has

> been revered by communites around the globe for

> thousands of years.

>

> In times of want we think that aggression and greed

> will save the

> day, just as the American president currently states

> with regard to

> Iraq. We have now had a few thousand years of this

> approach, a small

> period considering the long stretch of human

> history. Some say we've

> been on earch for 500,000 years. Aggression and

> greed seem to be

> causing quite a mess in fact, damaging the earth and

> leaving people

> starving and homeless.

>

> Aikya

>

>

> Ammachi, sprose1@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 10/10/02 12:36:56 AM Pacific

> Daylight Time,

> > Ammachi writes:

> >

> >

> > > Of course, it is inevitable that when

> spirituality moves

> > > from theory to application, some heat will be

> generated. This is

> as

> > > true in the social sphere as it is in the

> individual arena.

> > >

> > > Glory to the Divine Mother of

> >

> > Not quite, sir. The heat is not due to the

> applications, which

> were listed

> > at the end of this speech. I don't think anyhone

> would disagree

> with any of

> > it. The heat is due to the incredible perception

> of men

> demonstrated in this

> > speech. it is incredible also that the website

> took it OFF, and

> put instead

> > only fragments of the watered down stuff. they

> should be ashamed

> of

> > themselves!!!Keeping the ideas of their Guru from

> the devotees, in

> the name

> > of what? in the name of what? I bet there was

> uproar from many

> males and

> > the management decided to hide the teaching, which

> seems very close

> to Amma's

> > heart, btw. I say let the males find out what

> this Keralite is

> really all

> > about! How could it be right to do anything else?

> Soon you will

> see a

> > modification of the speech, saying that she never

> really said this

> and never

> > said that, and never meant this and did not mean

> that. It's the

> application,

> > sir, it is the actual theory espoused and implied.

> read it again.

> Oh, that's

> > right, they took it off the website.Avram

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I am sure that Amma's speech caused an immediate firestorm of

protest. Amma and the organization must gain cooperation of many

powerful people in order to do the charitable work. Perhaps it is a

matter of continuing the housing program, the work via the hospitals

and schools, rather than concerns about uplifting versus ?, that has

inspired greater reticence regarding the speech.

 

Aikya

 

Ammachi, balakrishnan Shankar <balakrishnan_sh>

wrote:

> Dear Avram and Others,

>

> I checked with my friend who is one of the people

> working on Amma's website here at the ashram. What

> goes on the web is entirely based on AMMA'S APPROVAL

> and as per what AMMA HERSELF says . Therefore Avram, i

> think it is unfair for you to say that perhaps some

> 'males' would have removed the speech themselves etc .

>

> I have many sincere friends working day and night on

> Amma's website- both men and women who spend hours and

> hours every night after work and I know for a fact

> that EVERY thing they put on website is after asking

> Amma.

>

> Amma has Her reasons for what She wants on the web

> because Amma wants to pressent everything there in a

> wholly uplifting way- maybe thats why the speech is

> not there now- it may be there later as part of a

> bigger section on the geneva meeting.

>

> So lets not fling accusations before ascertaining the

> facts,

>

> Namah Shivaya

>

> bala

>

>

>

>

--- Aikya Param <aikya> wrote:

> > Dear Ones

> >

> > Blessedly I received a full text of Amma's speech

> > before it began

> > vanishing. What she said is in tune with recent

> > discoveries in

> > gender studies in psychology and genetics as well as

> > very ancient

> > traditional or indigenous views held around the

> > world. For a woman

> > who spends most of her time hugging people, our Amma

> > doesn't miss

> > much.

> >

> > A few weeks ago, at the M.A. Center we had a slide

> > presentation

> > recently showing pictures of the goddess around the

> > world presented

> > by a woman who has made a personal study of this for

> > 30-40 years and

> > has amassed 12,000 slides with pictures from every

> > inhabited

> > continent. Going along with each image is the

> > message....and it is

> > clearer the farther back you go in humna

> > history...that woman creates

> > the world by birthing people who affect the world.

> > For this she has

> > been revered by communites around the globe for

> > thousands of years.

> >

> > In times of want we think that aggression and greed

> > will save the

> > day, just as the American president currently states

> > with regard to

> > Iraq. We have now had a few thousand years of this

> > approach, a small

> > period considering the long stretch of human

> > history. Some say we've

> > been on earch for 500,000 years. Aggression and

> > greed seem to be

> > causing quite a mess in fact, damaging the earth and

> > leaving people

> > starving and homeless.

> >

> > Aikya

> >

> >

> > Ammachi, sprose1@a... wrote:

> > > In a message dated 10/10/02 12:36:56 AM Pacific

> > Daylight Time,

> > > Ammachi writes:

> > >

> > >

> > > > Of course, it is inevitable that when

> > spirituality moves

> > > > from theory to application, some heat will be

> > generated. This is

> > as

> > > > true in the social sphere as it is in the

> > individual arena.

> > > >

> > > > Glory to the Divine Mother of

> > >

> > > Not quite, sir. The heat is not due to the

> > applications, which

> > were listed

> > > at the end of this speech. I don't think anyhone

> > would disagree

> > with any of

> > > it. The heat is due to the incredible perception

> > of men

> > demonstrated in this

> > > speech. it is incredible also that the website

> > took it OFF, and

> > put instead

> > > only fragments of the watered down stuff. they

> > should be ashamed

> > of

> > > themselves!!!Keeping the ideas of their Guru from

> > the devotees, in

> > the name

> > > of what? in the name of what? I bet there was

> > uproar from many

> > males and

> > > the management decided to hide the teaching, which

> > seems very close

> > to Amma's

> > > heart, btw. I say let the males find out what

> > this Keralite is

> > really all

> > > about! How could it be right to do anything else?

> > Soon you will

> > see a

> > > modification of the speech, saying that she never

> > really said this

> > and never

> > > said that, and never meant this and did not mean

> > that. It's the

> > application,

> > > sir, it is the actual theory espoused and implied.

> > read it again.

> > Oh, that's

> > > right, they took it off the website.Avram

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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