Guest guest Posted October 12, 2002 Report Share Posted October 12, 2002 Brother Avram, There are no substantive differences, IMHO, between what you have said and what I observed. I spoke elliptically and you were direct but we were not talking radically different things. Some points: 1. I doubt that the authors of the supposed adverse reaction to Amma's original text are from the 'Global Coalition of Males' or its Indian or Keralite equivalents. There are no such organizations. This is not to argue that male chauvinism and misogyny are non-existent in society. Indeed, they are very real evils that exist but these phenomena are distributed rather than concentrated; they rarely exhibit a single political face, rather their manifestations occur by the millions in our homes and daily lives. The closest thing to a demonstration of male political power that comes to mind from recent events is the continuing failure of the Indian Parliament to enact a law reserving seats for women, but this is an exception rather than the rule, of a public issue being framed in explicit male vs. female terms. 2. I think it is far more likely that the administrators of the web-site took into account actual or potential negative reaction from other, more politically organized groups that have been mentioned in Amma's speech. If you go through the excerpts from Amma's speech pasted at the end of this email, it is clear that the Divine Mother has chosen to be explicit about some of the 'negative' features of specific religions: on the largely male-oriented Christian theological concept, on the dowry system - a social ill largely associated with India and Hinduism and on the aspects of Islamic theory and practice which appear in the public mind to be loaded against women. 3. Also, brother Avram, one example of an application that can generate heat is Amma's recommendation no. 7 (see below). I am not suggesting for a moment that I object to Amma's formulations. May MahaKali decapitate me the day I manifest such arrogance! I am hinting at the possibility that there might be folks out there who would view that in a very hostile way. What I was originally trying to say, with the theory vs. application bit, I guess is this: a statement of theory, for instance, something anodyne like 'Brahman is real', is unlikely to elicit very much hostile reaction but a statement on specific social practices followed in the present day by those who style themselves as Christians or Hindus or Muslims or whatever is likely to attract negative attention. 4. As brother Nandakumar has pointed out, censorship, with or without Amma's agency, is one of the verities that we have to deal with. Politics is a reality as pressing as any other, in the world where we see Amma in operation, and a rational mind should be no more surprised by the fact that the Avatar (Amma) deals in a predictably human manner with the political forces that engage Her or vice versa, than by the fact that Amma takes a plane on Her world tours and does not just levitate. An Avatar is the Divine performing a human role. 5. Finally, brother Avram, it is my humble submission to you that anger, while perfectly natural and understandable, is probably not the best way to react to this episode. Anger, after all, is an externally focussed emotion and Sri Ramana Maharshi, in common with other great beings, advises us to look within. Our lives are the best laboratories for us to conduct 'safe' experimentation with Amma's teachings. Experiments with society at large by individuals, in the form of activism, is fraught with great risk. Only the Divine Mother knows what She is doing, when She gets political, if that is what She is doing. A low worm such as myself cannot possibly fathom Her moves. All I can do as a bhakta is to watch with trepidation from behind Her Sari, like a child, as Amma takes on the aspect of Kali and proceeds to engage the Demons of the world with Her Sword of Truth. Brother Avram, if you find this email to be excessive, please look upon it as the foolish but well-intentioned attempt of a worm to share a bird's eye view, and forgive any transgressions. Regards, fg Om Amriteshwaryai Namah Excerpts from Amma's speech below: ================================== It is commonly believed that the religion that gives least status to women is Islam. But the Koran speaks of qualities such as compassion and wisdom, and of God's essential nature, as feminine. In Christianity, the Supreme Being is worshipped exclusively as the Father in Heaven, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. The feminine aspect of God is not so widely recognized. Christ considered men and women equal. 1. It is high time to amend the social and religious systems that were formulated in the past. Not only have many rules and practices become obsolete-they actually block the progress of today's women. Religious traditions are significant. They shouldn't be discarded completely. Nevertheless, religious leaders should make every effort to guide their followers back to the true essence of spirituality, and in light of this, condemn all types of injustice towards women. Religious leaders should publicly speak out against all forms of oppression and violence against women. 2. The UN should maintain a presence in war zones and areas of communal strife specifically to provide safe havens for women and children. 3. Every nation should create special funds for the education of women and the eradication of poverty among women. 4. The UN should work to eliminate the dowry system. 5. All religions and nations should condemn such shameful practices as female foeticide and infanticide, and female genital mutilation. 6. The UN and leaders of every nation should intensify their efforts to stop child trafficking and the sexual exploitation of young girls. The legal consequences of such behaviour should be effective deterrents. 7. The number of rapes taking place all over the world is astounding. And the fact that in some countries it is the victims of rape who are punished is incomprehensible. Can we merely stand by and watch this? There should be a concerted, international effort to educate young men, with the aim of putting an end to rape. 8. The dignity of women is assailed by advertisements that treat them as sex objects. We should not tolerate this exploitation. 9. Religious leaders should encourage their followers to make selfless service an integral part of their lives. 10. Amma suggests that, in the wake of this conference, women spiritual leaders form a worldwide network. They could exchange ideas, and inspire and support one another in uplifting women and in protecting human rights. ================================== Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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