Guest guest Posted November 11, 2002 Report Share Posted November 11, 2002 I would have to agree with some of the other members of this list. It would be awfully nice if the rs would please stick to the topic which is supposed to be Amma. Emails about other (and seemingly unrelated) topics should be directed towards a different group. . .(I'm sure there's one out there). I personally signed up for this group so that I could learn more about ammachi and be able to share thoughts and experiences with others about amma. I am very disappointed to say that maybe one out of every ten emails I recieve from this group is focused on the intended subject matter. I have noticed many different members of this group mention this fact and ask for off topic emails to stop. I must say it is kind of rude to keep posting emails that are unrelated. I'm not trying to stifle anyone's thoughts or opinions, I just think that there is a time and a place for everything. . . and this is not the place for any emails that do not focus on Amma. .. . . so please, keep in mind the purpose of this list and refrain from posting emails that are off the topic of Ammachi. In mother's grace with much thanks and appreciation. . . Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 Ammachi, Sara Snow Bliffert <sarasnow@e...> wrote: > I would have to agree with some of the other members of this list. It > would be awfully nice if the rs would please stick to the > topic which is supposed to be Amma. Emails about other (and seemingly > unrelated) topics should be directed towards a different group. . ..(I'm > sure there's one out there). > > I personally signed up for this group so that I could learn more about > ammachi and be able to share thoughts and experiences with others about > amma. > > I am very disappointed to say that maybe one out of every ten emails I > recieve from this group is focused on the intended subject matter. > > I have noticed many different members of this group mention this fact > and ask for off topic emails to stop. I must say it is kind of rude to > keep posting emails that are unrelated. > > I'm not trying to stifle anyone's thoughts or opinions, I just think > that there is a time and a place for everything. . . and this is not > the place for any emails that do not focus on Amma. > > . . . so please, keep in mind the purpose of this list and refrain from > posting emails that are off the topic of Ammachi. > > In mother's grace with much thanks and appreciation. . . > > Sara Dear list, I'm just wondering how does one decide if a topic is on-topic or off-topic. If one is speaking about self-realization and not "Amma" per se, is this off topic? Do the coconut oil posts or vegetarianism in the Gita, etc., fall under the vast category of off-topic? I think if it gets to rigid, people will be afraid to post, lest they will be disciplined and frowned upon for saying the wrong thing. I do agree that people who post for there own political and spiritual agendas should be very careful and these should be considered off-topics, but if someone is raising an issue in good-will (although it may not be Amma subject matter in the most obvious terms but it is still coming under the subject of spiritual life in practical, everyday life from the food we eat to the thoughts we generate), I feel we on the list can still be a little bit tolerant, open-minded and generous in spirit. Just some of my own thoughts, Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 --- lbrachlin <lalita120 wrote: > Dear list, > I'm just wondering how does one decide if a topic is on-topic or > off-topic. If one is speaking about self-realization and not "Amma" > per se, is this off topic? Do the coconut oil posts or vegetarianism > in the Gita, etc., fall under the vast category of off-topic? I think > if it gets to rigid, people will be afraid to post, lest they will be > disciplined and frowned upon for saying the wrong thing. I do agree > that people who post for there own political and spiritual agendas > should be very careful and these should be considered off-topics, but > if someone is raising an issue in good-will (although it may not be > Amma subject matter in the most obvious terms but it is still coming > under the subject of spiritual life in practical, everyday life from > the food we eat to the thoughts we generate), I feel we on the list > can still be a little bit tolerant, open-minded and generous in > spirit. Just some of my own thoughts, > > Lisa I am glad you wrote this, dear Lisa. I was thinking that maybe I am the only one who thought likewise. A classic case of the fear of frowning you talked about! I was thinking that Amma is all about Self-realization, and if we were to discuss "Amma and Amma's stories", it would seem like a classic case of being too attached to the form while not wanting to discuss/understand the principles. Not that I mean to disrespect Amma, because today the form is what motivates me to go ahead. I have great respect for Amma's person and enjoy tremendously stories about Amma and especially Her joyous and celebratory nature, but I treat these inputs as further impetus for spiritual growth and contemplation, unlike(what I discern) they being treated as an end in itself. I guess these are philosphical differences in outlook, and can never be easily resolved (if at all), but all I wanted to say is that the Ammachi list should be used for discussion of experiences around Amma PLUS disucssion on Amma's teachings which may sometimes digress to include teachings of other saints. However, I do agree that mails that slander other saints in this list do not qualify to be in the scope of this discussion, nor do the other mails (concentration camps, for example) seem to be directly related to the raison d'etre of this list.... And I think the moderator has intervened justly so far in all these cases. just my 2c. Jai Ma! manoj. U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch./u2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 Ammachi, Manoj Menon <manoj_menon> wrote: > > --- lbrachlin <lalita120@h...> wrote: > > Dear list, > > I'm just wondering how does one decide if a topic is on-topic or > > off-topic. If one is speaking about self-realization and not "Amma" > > per se, is this off topic? Do the coconut oil posts or vegetarianism > > in the Gita, etc., fall under the vast category of off-topic? I think > > if it gets to rigid, people will be afraid to post, lest they will be > > disciplined and frowned upon for saying the wrong thing. I do agree > > that people who post for there own political and spiritual agendas > > should be very careful and these should be considered off-topics, but > > if someone is raising an issue in good-will (although it may not be > > Amma subject matter in the most obvious terms but it is still coming > > under the subject of spiritual life in practical, everyday life from > > the food we eat to the thoughts we generate), I feel we on the list > > can still be a little bit tolerant, open-minded and generous in > > spirit. Just some of my own thoughts, > > > > Lisa > > I am glad you wrote this, dear Lisa. I was thinking that maybe I am the only > one who thought likewise. A classic case of the fear of frowning you talked > about! > > I was thinking that Amma is all about Self-realization, and if we were to > discuss "Amma and Amma's stories", it would seem like a classic case of being > too attached to the form while not wanting to discuss/understand the > principles. > > Not that I mean to disrespect Amma, because today the form is what motivates me > to go ahead. I have great respect for Amma's person and enjoy tremendously > stories about Amma and especially Her joyous and celebratory nature, but I > treat these inputs as further impetus for spiritual growth and contemplation, > unlike(what I discern) they being treated as an end in itself. > > I guess these are philosphical differences in outlook, and can never be easily > resolved (if at all), but all I wanted to say is that the Ammachi list should > be used for discussion of experiences around Amma PLUS disucssion on Amma's > teachings which may sometimes digress to include teachings of other saints. > > However, I do agree that mails that slander other saints in this list do not > qualify to be in the scope of this discussion, nor do the other mails > (concentration camps, for example) seem to be directly related to the raison > d'etre of this list.... And I think the moderator has intervened justly so far > in all these cases. just my 2c. > > Jai Ma! > manoj. Manoj, Of course, I agee with what you're saying and feel the same way. And I feel that, just to be fair, that although we should be tolerant of other people's issues, everyone here has a responsibility to be sensitive to those who feel certain subjects are off topic. By the way, for those interested, I've chosen the option on this list not to receive emails at all...I chose the option to go directly to the , then to sign in and see the individual posts. This may be a remedy for those who either want to block certain posts or not receive long emails. Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2002 Report Share Posted November 18, 2002 Namah Shivaya, > I was thinking that Amma is all about Self-realization, and if we were to > discuss "Amma and Amma's stories", it would seem like a classic case of being > too attached to the form while not wanting to discuss/understand the > principles. A very good point. To this child, the stories illustrate Grace, which is formless. Amma's form and the stories about Her form have inspired interest in the principles. Miss the discussions about principles and would appreciate their return. Have found the members will versed in the principles to be wonderful teachers for those of us drawn in by the form. Don't think it's an either/or. Maybe more like both and... Too much discussion of principles can get the mind going. Still the mind with spiritual practice is also important. Discussion of spiritual practices seems like another appropriate topic. But again, there's talking about it and there's doing it. News flash: by the end of the first public program in MI all the prayer books, commentaries and CDs on the 1000 Names were sold out! And the tour staff had brought a lot!!! > I guess these are philosphical differences in outlook, and can never be easily > resolved (if at all), but all I wanted to say is that the Ammachi list should > be used for discussion of experiences around Amma PLUS disucssion on Amma's > teachings which may sometimes digress to include teachings of other saints. Perhaps it would help keep us on track if more people would simply mail a quote, with or without comment. What do you think? Here's the quote that was on the wrist bands for the MI retreat: "The childlike innocence deep within you is God." Living in a University town full of intellectuals, I've found that the childlike innocence that Amma has helped me find and display is often mistaken as lower intelligence. By Amma's grace, that matters less and less. Aum Amriteshvaryai Namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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