Guest guest Posted December 17, 2002 Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 Namah Shivaya, Just to add to this discussion about mantra .... In case you are not sure of your ishta devata (favourite deity) you don't have to worry about it. AMMA knows. This happened to me and it has happened to many of AMMA's children. I took my mantra from Madras ashram. I used to be a Krishna devotee before meeting AMMA. After meeting AMMA I 'lost my interest in the Krishna aspect'!!! and was more attracted to the Devi aspect. There again I had a problem. I preferred a milder form than that of Kali. So I thought I would make goddess Lakshmi my ishta devata. But then again ... I was not getting any devotion towards that form. I was also attracted to Sri Ramamkrishna - Sarada Devi. So I finally decided to ask AMMA for Sarada Devi's mantra (I could easily get the complete form of the duo in my mind also). So I approached AMMA for a mantra. As is the practice, a brahmacharini asked me who my ishta was and showed bundles of mantra (chits) kept. Sarada Devi was not among them. Now .. I was in a dilemma. I told her that my ishta was not there in that list. This happened at around 1 in the night. She got a bit pained (probably she had been standing there for quite some time). So she became stern and asked me to choose between Krishna and AMMA (as these were the most popular ones). I was sort of forced to choose AMMA as my ishta devata. I was still doubtful and feeling uneasy. I didn't want to choose AMMA as my ishta devata as I felt that I would become too attached to AMMA's form (might seem like a crazy reason to most people). But what happened was this. AMMA called us for taking the mantra. There were people who had selected other ishtas also. When I went to AMMA, SHE gave HER own mantra in my ears. That removed all my doubts and I knew that SHE was my ishta, because we were not asked to show the mantra chits. Each guy got whatever mantra he had selected. I have heard of instances where AMMA has given a different mantra (than the one selected by the person) telling them explicitly that the one SHE has given is their ishta devata. I thought I will just share this small experience of mine with the group. Namah Shivaya, Prasanth Message: 13 Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:00:47 +0530 "Manesh" <manesh.mohan RE: Curious... Hi Robin Whenever someone request Mother for mantra, with her consent you will be guided to another swami, who is delegated by mother for mantra. He will ask for your favourite deity. One's favourite deity can be anyone ( Christ, Budha, Alla, Ahura Mazda or anyone ). For Guru's like Mother all are embodiments of the same reality both in literal sense and also in experience. Non-dualists ( advaitist ) dont even have a deity. For them Mother gives mantras which are related to advaitist principles. Once you give your favaourite deity to the concerned swami, through him the almight Mother manifests the mantra which she indent to give you. This mantra scribled on a paper in malayalam is given to you. At the end of devi bhava devotees who has got the consent of mother for mantra comes to her with this piece of paper and Mother saraswathi just to conceal her omni-potence, looks into the piece of paper and transmits the mantra to your spiritual being. There upon she takes your complete responsibility. This is what happens while AMMA gives mantra in amrithapuri. There are instances where the devotee has forgotten to take the piece of paper from pocket, and divine mother plays her leela by uttering the same mantra in his ears. This happened to my friend. There are instances reported where someone has approached mother for mantra when he already had a mantra for past 10 years from another Guru. When he aproached mother with paper in his hand, mother told him: "Son, chant the same mantra which you had been chanting for past 10 years. It is better to catch hold of one rather than running after many". Only he and his Guru knew about his mantra and he was spellbound on AMMA's words. Similar incident was reported in mathruvani by swami Amrithaathmaananda Puri regarding a hebru mantra for a jew. In short, for incarnations like Mother, reality is not many, but just One, the ultimate ONE. But just because of our in-capability to digest this unity she is giving us a boat (in the form of deity) to cross the mighty river of worldliness. It is said that on reaching the other shore (possible only with grace of Guru) , one has to abandon this boat their by embracing the ultimate unity, there upon one may not feel any duality. In Mothers words "the Guru and disciple relation cease to exist, they become one". All the above concepts are Mother's own concepts just typed by my hands. May Mother's grace clear all your doubts. Ohm amritheswaryay Namah -manesh Robin Wilson [lilymoonjewel] Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:55 AM Ammachi Re: Curious... Yes thank you....I was referring to mantras as in has she ever gave a mantra in Buddhism or A Christian mantra to someone or is it alway Sanscrit? pwhite0130 wrote:Jai Robin: > Does anyone know if Amma has ever gave anyone a manta that wasn't Hindu and > Does anyone know if Amma has any CDs with her own chants on them Are you talking about a Hindu person ir a Hindu mantra? She has given a lot of mantras to non-Hindus ... particuilarily to use westerners. There is no requirement as to a person religion. None of the mantras are Hindu (as far as I know). They are in Sanscript .... language of the Gurus. Peter Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi Terms of Service. Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! 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