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In order for me to GET a feeling for the mantra or chanting I have to know what

its about ....I can not just say its about God and start chanting.....its not

inspiring to me....I have to know it, feel it, and understand it.....I have

meditated on the rosary AND Mary and had taught myself how to do this..a feat in

itself!....until my ideals had changed....now I am not on any curtain path ..I

am on MY path....this is just me....this is how I teach myself and how I

learn...I have learn so much because I WANTED to learn it in the past week than

I think I will in a year....I am very passinate right now about what I am

seeking....it keeps me going ...but I am also a skeptic and have to have reasons

.....I have to understand .....Such as I can practice being a Hindu and read all

the scriptures and do all the mantras and not understand any of it ...or I can

learn about Hinduism.....the mantras ....where it all came from and be inspired

to go that much futher....the Hindu culture is so RICH and Beautiful...I WANT to

know about it (is that so WRONG???) THIS Is what inspires me to come closer to

God/Goddess....Thank you for your Help and Guidance Tom.....Is there anyone who

knows the words to the Manras I have listed? Id be greatful..... Thank you....

OM.. Shanti, Shanti, Shanti

"Tom <tomgull" <tomgull wrote:I understand, but it's more

rajas (activity, need to do something)

than anal :)

 

It's just that it's hard to contemplate the meaning when the Sanskrit

part isn't already memorized well enough. Sort of like trying to

meditate on the Mysteries while praying the Rosary. For most people

just getting through a whole rosary is an accomplishment, even more if

they even announce the mysteries before each decade. But to the

devoted, it's well understood that meditating on the aspects of Jesus'

life brings great benefit rather than dry chanting. Of course

meditating on Mary while doing the rosary would be an ok alternative.

 

You'll also find it rare to find translations of sanskrit stotras

unless a scholar has taken the time to do it, and publish it either on

the net or in a book. There's just too many scriptures out there,

and at least having it in transliterated/romanized format is a

blessing.

 

tom

 

 

Ammachi, Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel>

wrote:

>

> I totally understand what you are saying and agree ...but being me I

am so anal about things and I just have to know what I am singing and

know what it all means...it helps to understand the

terminoligy.....its just me ...I don't know why....Youve been a great

help ...thank you for your reponse.... -Robin

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

Ammachi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Robin,

I will get working on what you have asked, and hopefully by tomorrow

will have the correct English translation of some of the Sanskrit

words you are asking about.....the ones that I recognize. I will look

tonight in the books I have in the house and see what I come up with.

Sorry that I have not offered to do this before for you. Is the word

Stuti wriiten on the cover to the CD disc that you have? I do not

recognize this word, although someone else might

 

In my opinion, it is very good that you have a questioning

attitude and are trying to find your own way. A few years ago I

pushed a friend to go and see Amma. He is in his early 30's and works

with computers, and in his mind and heart he does not know if God

exists or not. So, he asked Amma what is good for him to believe in.

Amma answered my friend telling him to " believe in yourself."

 

So, maybe this fits with what you are doing and it is important for

you to believe in youself and your search.

 

How are you and your daughters?

 

In Amma's Love,

Sara J.

 

 

Ammachi, Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel>

wrote:

>

> In order for me to GET a feeling for the mantra or chanting I have

to know what its about ....I can not just say its about God and start

chanting.....its not inspiring to me....I have to know it, feel it,

and understand it.....I have meditated on the rosary AND Mary and had

taught myself how to do this..a feat in itself!....until my ideals

had changed....now I am not on any curtain path ..I am on MY

path....this is just me....this is how I teach myself and how I

learn...I have learn so much because I WANTED to learn it in the past

week than I think I will in a year....I am very passinate right now

about what I am seeking....it keeps me going ...but I am also a

skeptic and have to have reasons ....I have to understand .....Such

as I can practice being a Hindu and read all the scriptures and do

all the mantras and not understand any of it ...or I can learn about

Hinduism.....the mantras ....where it all came from and be inspired

to go that much futher....the Hindu culture is so RICH and

Beautiful...I WANT to know about it (is that so WRONG???) THIS Is

what inspires me to come closer to God/Goddess....Thank you for your

Help and Guidance Tom.....Is there anyone who knows the words to the

Manras I have listed? Id be greatful..... Thank you....

> OM.. Shanti, Shanti, Shanti

> "Tom <tomgull@m...>" <tomgull@m...> wrote:I understand, but it's

more rajas (activity, need to do something)

> than anal :)

>

> It's just that it's hard to contemplate the meaning when the

Sanskrit

> part isn't already memorized well enough. Sort of like trying to

> meditate on the Mysteries while praying the Rosary. For most

people

> just getting through a whole rosary is an accomplishment, even more

if

> they even announce the mysteries before each decade. But to the

> devoted, it's well understood that meditating on the aspects of

Jesus'

> life brings great benefit rather than dry chanting. Of course

> meditating on Mary while doing the rosary would be an ok

alternative.

>

> You'll also find it rare to find translations of sanskrit stotras

> unless a scholar has taken the time to do it, and publish it either

on

> the net or in a book. There's just too many scriptures out there,

> and at least having it in transliterated/romanized format is a

> blessing.

>

> tom

>

>

> Ammachi, Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel>

> wrote:

> >

> > I totally understand what you are saying and agree ...but being

me I

> am so anal about things and I just have to know what I am singing

and

> know what it all means...it helps to understand the

> terminoligy.....its just me ...I don't know why....Youve been a

great

> help ...thank you for your reponse.... -Robin

>

>

> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

>

> Ammachi

>

>

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Namaste

My daughters are doing great....although I wonder some about my younger and

how she is handling the divorce, sometimes she comes back rather cranky

....actually most of the time...but I don't know if its because shes being tossed

around or didnt get enough sleep...and I have to say I am in a state of

happiness as I have started to meditate after a about to a year to a year and a

half...I have NEVER done that before....Ive always meditated ...so I missed

it...it was just so crowded for the past year..even though that is no excuse....

its funny I was reading something about the existance comes out of waves and

back into waves..it was a metaphore of sorts.. and I feel that that is how I

learn ..I don't know if its just me or people...but I'll be on my path and go

far with my meditations etc and then fall back and then start up again....and

each time I come back its stronger and stronger than the last...I don't

understand this...Just think of where I could be if I kept at it

constantly...<grin> My next challenge ...as to the words I asked about Tom has

already gave his assistance...which I am greatful..... But I do need a

translation for the songs and mantras I have givin if you are able......its

funny because one of the songs has all these mantas compliled on one song that I

DO know...I don't get it....its like the Gayatri, and Asatho Saad Gamaya and

some others ......I don't understand why they are all on one song......so it

might actually be impossible to get the translations for them..it might just be

the way they made the Cd and the way they do there music....Much love and thanks

-Robin

"saramj33 <saramj" <saramj wrote:Dear Robin,

I will get working on what you have asked, and hopefully by tomorrow

will have the correct English translation of some of the Sanskrit

words you are asking about.....the ones that I recognize. I will look

tonight in the books I have in the house and see what I come up with.

Sorry that I have not offered to do this before for you. Is the word

Stuti wriiten on the cover to the CD disc that you have? I do not

recognize this word, although someone else might

 

In my opinion, it is very good that you have a questioning

attitude and are trying to find your own way. A few years ago I

pushed a friend to go and see Amma. He is in his early 30's and works

with computers, and in his mind and heart he does not know if God

exists or not. So, he asked Amma what is good for him to believe in.

Amma answered my friend telling him to " believe in yourself."

 

So, maybe this fits with what you are doing and it is important for

you to believe in youself and your search.

 

How are you and your daughters?

 

In Amma's Love,

Sara J.

 

 

Ammachi, Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel>

wrote:

>

> In order for me to GET a feeling for the mantra or chanting I have

to know what its about ....I can not just say its about God and start

chanting.....its not inspiring to me....I have to know it, feel it,

and understand it.....I have meditated on the rosary AND Mary and had

taught myself how to do this..a feat in itself!....until my ideals

had changed....now I am not on any curtain path ..I am on MY

path....this is just me....this is how I teach myself and how I

learn...I have learn so much because I WANTED to learn it in the past

week than I think I will in a year....I am very passinate right now

about what I am seeking....it keeps me going ...but I am also a

skeptic and have to have reasons ....I have to understand .....Such

as I can practice being a Hindu and read all the scriptures and do

all the mantras and not understand any of it ...or I can learn about

Hinduism.....the mantras ....where it all came from and be inspired

to go that much futher....the Hindu culture is so RICH and

Beautiful...I WANT to know about it (is that so WRONG???) THIS Is

what inspires me to come closer to God/Goddess....Thank you for your

Help and Guidance Tom.....Is there anyone who knows the words to the

Manras I have listed? Id be greatful..... Thank you....

> OM.. Shanti, Shanti, Shanti

> "Tom <tomgull@m...>" <tomgull@m...> wrote:I understand, but it's

more rajas (activity, need to do something)

> than anal :)

>

> It's just that it's hard to contemplate the meaning when the

Sanskrit

> part isn't already memorized well enough. Sort of like trying to

> meditate on the Mysteries while praying the Rosary. For most

people

> just getting through a whole rosary is an accomplishment, even more

if

> they even announce the mysteries before each decade. But to the

> devoted, it's well understood that meditating on the aspects of

Jesus'

> life brings great benefit rather than dry chanting. Of course

> meditating on Mary while doing the rosary would be an ok

alternative.

>

> You'll also find it rare to find translations of sanskrit stotras

> unless a scholar has taken the time to do it, and publish it either

on

> the net or in a book. There's just too many scriptures out there,

> and at least having it in transliterated/romanized format is a

> blessing.

>

> tom

>

>

> Ammachi, Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel>

> wrote:

> >

> > I totally understand what you are saying and agree ...but being

me I

> am so anal about things and I just have to know what I am singing

and

> know what it all means...it helps to understand the

> terminoligy.....its just me ...I don't know why....Youve been a

great

> help ...thank you for your reponse.... -Robin

>

>

> Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

>

> Ammachi

>

>

> Terms of

Service.

>

>

>

>

>

> Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

>

>

 

 

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om amritesvaryai namah

 

hi robin,

even though its true that the raw power of the

sanskrit mantras and slokas will have their effect,

its still right of you to seek their meaning, because

then you can develop a personalised relationship with

them. when you chant, for instance, Asato Ma

Satgamaya... ('lead me from untruth to Truth...'), it

will only increase the potency of the prayer if you

can feel it in your heart, and to do this while in the

moment you should know what it is you're saying...so

may Amma bless you in your studies.

 

and to everyone who is debating over what Amma said

about this or that, try to remember that what is said

to a person in the darshan line is for them and their

spiritual progress alone, and cannot be applied

generally to every person or situation....as Amma has

taught us, even if the guru is false, if the devotee

is sincere and full of faith, God will take care of

him/her, and Amma is not going to disturb someones

faith...rather She will guide the devotee to a true

understanding and experience of Faith itself.

discriminate and stay focused on the inner meaning of

the Satguru's words...only then will you truly benefit

from them.

also, with regard to who Amma is a reincarnation of,

this too is a pointless discussion, because Amma is

all incarnations all the time....every avatar or

mahatma is Amma, and She will identify with all of

them and none of them, always....there will be

similarities between some or all because essentially

their purpose is the same....but make no mistake, Amma

is here AS HERSELF this time, like none before, and it

would be better for us to learn to simply surrender at

Her Feet now, handing over the reigns, than to

continue wasting time with fruitless intellectual

curiosities...there is only ONE.

 

just my opinion, and the last i'll say on the matter.

forgive me if i have offended anyone.

 

She is guiding and protecting us...Jai Ma!

 

"Children, now you are like little babies. You play

and laugh with Mother, enjoying Her company. But you

do not understand what Mother is doing or who Mother

really is. You look only at the external Mother;

hardly anyone is interested in the Supreme

Consciousness that lies behind - there is no urgency

to know the Self within. You don't really want the

real Mother."

 

---pg 63, Lead Us To

The Light

 

"Mother has taken this body for the sake of the

world, not for Herself. Mother has not come to this

world just to sit, declaring, "I am a divine

incarnation." What is the use being born if you sit

idle? Mother's aim is to guide people and thereby

uplift the world. Mother has come with the aim of

showing people the right path."

 

---pg 74, ibid.

 

In Amma,

~sucetas mon~

om lokah samastah sukhino bhavantu

 

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Too much "I, my" in your writing, maybe self-inquiry would be

better... :(

 

Like Amma says about Devotional Fervor, don't wait for the feeling to

come, or it's like waiting for the waves of the ocean to subside

before going in (to paraphrase). Just do it, and the feeling will

come. Anyone, and I mean anyone, can do things when they're

inspired, even animals. Passion burns quickly like a flash fire (no

staying power, oh so many divorces because of the loss of passion).

It takes dedication and discipline to do things with the Faith that

they will produce results, regardless of what it feels like at the

time, or any feeling at all.

 

I tried to explain to you that it's going to be hard finding

translations for sanskrit prayers, unless a scholarly devotee has

taken the time to do it, and make it available. Good luck while you

wait,

 

tom

 

 

 

 

Ammachi, Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel>

wrote:

>

> In order for me to GET a feeling for the mantra or chanting I have

to know what its about ....I can not just say its about God and start

chanting.....its not inspiring to me....I have to know it, feel it,

and understand it.....I have meditated on the rosary AND Mary and had

taught myself how to do this..a feat in itself!....until my ideals had

changed....now I am not on any curtain path ..I am on MY path....this

is just me....this is how I teach myself and how I learn...I have

learn so much because I WANTED to learn it in the past week than I

think I will in a year....I am very passinate right now about what I

am seeking....it keeps me going ...but I am also a skeptic and have to

have reasons ....I have to understand .....Such as I can practice

being a Hindu and read all the scriptures and do all the mantras and

not understand any of it ...or I can learn about Hinduism.....the

mantras ....where it all came from and be inspired to go that much

futher....the Hindu culture is so RICH and Beautiful...I WANT to know

about it (is that so WRONG???) THIS Is what inspires me to come closer

to God/Goddess....Thank you for your Help and Guidance Tom.....Is

there anyone who knows the words to the Manras I have listed? Id be

greatful..... Thank you....

> OM.. Shanti, Shanti, Shanti

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Dear Robin,

 

do I understand correctly that you want the English translation of

all of these Sanskrit words, including the words Shri, Krishna, and

Devi?

 

As far as I have found at the moment:

Samgacchadvam means: let us all move together, or you all move

together.

"Shri Krishna Stuti- Sangachhadnam - ???"

 

Nirvanshatakam seems to be composed of two roots: nirvan and

shatakam. At the following site you can find these meanings for

nirvana

http://www.selfknowledge.com/109719.htm

 

"Nirvana (Nirúvaúna) (nŒr-v„1ne, ner-) n.

[sanskrit, nirvƒNam, a blowing out, extinction, nirvana: nis-,

nir-,

out, away + vƒti, it blows. Pali, nibbana; Jap., nehan]

 

1. Often Nirvana, a. Buddhism. The ineffable ultimate in which one

has attained disinterested wisdom and compassion. b. Hinduism.

Emancipation from ignorance and the extinction of all attachment.

2. An ideal condition of rest, harmony, stability, or joy.

3. The ability to consciously pause an activity or activities of the

mind. Her mind became inactive, the result was the experience of

nirvana.

4. A state of liberation from unhappiness. Illumination,

characterized by the merging of the individual, transitory I in

consciousness. Nirvana frees one from suffering and fear of death. It

is the highest, transcendent consciousness, referred to in the

Bhagavad-Gita as brahman-nirvana, in the Upanishads as turiya, in

yoga as nirbija-samadhi, and in Vedanta as nirvikalpa-samadhi.

5. The goal of spiritual practice in all branches of Buddhism. In the

understanding of early Buddhism, it is departure from the cycle of

unhappiness and entry into an entirely different mode of existence.

It requires complete overcoming of the three unwholesome roots--

undisciplined-desire, hatred, and delusion (akushala). Nirvana is

unconditioned (asamskrita) consciousness. Its characteristic marks

are pausing the activities of the mind in a state of consciousness."

 

 

Shatakam : often means power, creative power or energy , or the

ability to create something. I have never seen the word

Nirvanshatakam before, but I am not a scholar.

So, nirvanshatakam might mean the power or energy of illumination.

 

Is this helpful, or not at all what you are looking for?

 

In Amma's Love,

Sara J.

 

Ammachi, Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel>

wrote:

>

> Namaste Everyone,

 

>

> I was wondering if anyone could help me out here.....yes AGAIN!

<grin>.... I have recieved a Himalayan Chant CD and I don't know if

they are all Hindu ..Im pretty sure that atleast most of them

are.....anyway it does not have the lyrics inside nor the meaning of

the Prayer....It took me forever to understand what "Stuti" meant..I

had to look it up on a sanskrit dictionary...I finally achieved my

goal.. <Grin> ... Just goes to prove you learn something new

everyday.... ! I have still yet to find out what Shloka and Suktam

mean..... and Prakirna if there just the names of prayers or what? I

have no idea....is someone could explain please...I have so much to

learn....I would also like ...if anyone is up to the challange to

interpret the songs to me in sanskrit and in english so I know the

words to both and can sing and understand them at the same time as

this came with neither.....I will write out the list.....

>

>

>

> Shri Ganesh Stuti- I think I have found this one on the internet

but am not sure its the right one....and it didnt give the english

meaning....

>

> Pratah Smaran-I think I found something on this too..about morning

prayers??

>

> Shri Guru Stuti- Prakirna: Mantra, Shloka

>

> Shri Shankar Stuti- Prakirna: Mantra

>

> Shri Krishna Stuti- Sangachhadnam - ???

>

> Shri Devi Stuti-Nirvanshatakam- ??

>

> Devi Suktam

>

> While doggidly looking for the meanings of theses prayers I found I

had more questions on ..well...everything LOL......Like could someone

send me a list of the Bharat Bhakti- (I think thats how its spelled)

the morning prayers.....and there meanings too..... I think I have

overwhelmed you with all of this and am sorry for my ignorance.....I

will stop here with the questions....for now <grin> ..... Thank you

for your patience and help....

>

>

-Robin

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I don't mean to offend you in any way..and maybe I am confused...but WHAT is

with all the critisim.....??? I don't know if Im taking you the wrong way or

what and I DO know that you mean well.....and I understand what your saying but

not everyone is the same ....not everyone learns in the same way....I have to do

what inspires me I can not just "do it" I have to have motivation.......I still

thank you for your guidance and MY GOODNESS your teaching me all about patients!

.......<wink>

"Tom <tomgull" <tomgull wrote:Too much "I, my" in your

writing, maybe self-inquiry would be

better... :(

 

Like Amma says about Devotional Fervor, don't wait for the feeling to

come, or it's like waiting for the waves of the ocean to subside

before going in (to paraphrase). Just do it, and the feeling will

come. Anyone, and I mean anyone, can do things when they're

inspired, even animals. Passion burns quickly like a flash fire (no

staying power, oh so many divorces because of the loss of passion).

It takes dedication and discipline to do things with the Faith that

they will produce results, regardless of what it feels like at the

time, or any feeling at all.

 

I tried to explain to you that it's going to be hard finding

translations for sanskrit prayers, unless a scholarly devotee has

taken the time to do it, and make it available. Good luck while you

wait,

 

tom

 

 

 

 

Ammachi, Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel>

wrote:

>

> In order for me to GET a feeling for the mantra or chanting I have

to know what its about ....I can not just say its about God and start

chanting.....its not inspiring to me....I have to know it, feel it,

and understand it.....I have meditated on the rosary AND Mary and had

taught myself how to do this..a feat in itself!....until my ideals had

changed....now I am not on any curtain path ..I am on MY path....this

is just me....this is how I teach myself and how I learn...I have

learn so much because I WANTED to learn it in the past week than I

think I will in a year....I am very passinate right now about what I

am seeking....it keeps me going ...but I am also a skeptic and have to

have reasons ....I have to understand .....Such as I can practice

being a Hindu and read all the scriptures and do all the mantras and

not understand any of it ...or I can learn about Hinduism.....the

mantras ....where it all came from and be inspired to go that much

futher....the Hindu culture is so RICH and Beautiful...I WANT to know

about it (is that so WRONG???) THIS Is what inspires me to come closer

to God/Goddess....Thank you for your Help and Guidance Tom.....Is

there anyone who knows the words to the Manras I have listed? Id be

greatful..... Thank you....

> OM.. Shanti, Shanti, Shanti

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

Ammachi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you for your dedicated work .....I do appreciate it very much......Ill

look into the website in a bit as Im at work during these hours ...I have no

computer at home....-Robin

"saramj33 <saramj" <saramj wrote:Dear Robin,

 

do I understand correctly that you want the English translation of

all of these Sanskrit words, including the words Shri, Krishna, and

Devi?

 

As far as I have found at the moment:

Samgacchadvam means: let us all move together, or you all move

together.

"Shri Krishna Stuti- Sangachhadnam - ???"

 

Nirvanshatakam seems to be composed of two roots: nirvan and

shatakam. At the following site you can find these meanings for

nirvana

http://www.selfknowledge.com/109719.htm

 

"Nirvana (Nirúvaúna) (nŒr-v„1ne, ner-) n.

[sanskrit, nirvƒNam, a blowing out, extinction, nirvana: nis-,

nir-,

out, away + vƒti, it blows. Pali, nibbana; Jap., nehan]

 

1. Often Nirvana, a. Buddhism. The ineffable ultimate in which one

has attained disinterested wisdom and compassion. b. Hinduism.

Emancipation from ignorance and the extinction of all attachment.

2. An ideal condition of rest, harmony, stability, or joy.

3. The ability to consciously pause an activity or activities of the

mind. Her mind became inactive, the result was the experience of

nirvana.

4. A state of liberation from unhappiness. Illumination,

characterized by the merging of the individual, transitory I in

consciousness. Nirvana frees one from suffering and fear of death. It

is the highest, transcendent consciousness, referred to in the

Bhagavad-Gita as brahman-nirvana, in the Upanishads as turiya, in

yoga as nirbija-samadhi, and in Vedanta as nirvikalpa-samadhi.

5. The goal of spiritual practice in all branches of Buddhism. In the

understanding of early Buddhism, it is departure from the cycle of

unhappiness and entry into an entirely different mode of existence.

It requires complete overcoming of the three unwholesome roots--

undisciplined-desire, hatred, and delusion (akushala). Nirvana is

unconditioned (asamskrita) consciousness. Its characteristic marks

are pausing the activities of the mind in a state of consciousness."

 

 

Shatakam : often means power, creative power or energy , or the

ability to create something. I have never seen the word

Nirvanshatakam before, but I am not a scholar.

So, nirvanshatakam might mean the power or energy of illumination.

 

Is this helpful, or not at all what you are looking for?

 

In Amma's Love,

Sara J.

 

Ammachi, Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel>

wrote:

>

> Namaste Everyone,

 

>

> I was wondering if anyone could help me out here.....yes AGAIN!

<grin>.... I have recieved a Himalayan Chant CD and I don't know if

they are all Hindu ..Im pretty sure that atleast most of them

are.....anyway it does not have the lyrics inside nor the meaning of

the Prayer....It took me forever to understand what "Stuti" meant..I

had to look it up on a sanskrit dictionary...I finally achieved my

goal.. <Grin> ... Just goes to prove you learn something new

everyday.... ! I have still yet to find out what Shloka and Suktam

mean..... and Prakirna if there just the names of prayers or what? I

have no idea....is someone could explain please...I have so much to

learn....I would also like ...if anyone is up to the challange to

interpret the songs to me in sanskrit and in english so I know the

words to both and can sing and understand them at the same time as

this came with neither.....I will write out the list.....

>

>

>

> Shri Ganesh Stuti- I think I have found this one on the internet

but am not sure its the right one....and it didnt give the english

meaning....

>

> Pratah Smaran-I think I found something on this too..about morning

prayers??

>

> Shri Guru Stuti- Prakirna: Mantra, Shloka

>

> Shri Shankar Stuti- Prakirna: Mantra

>

> Shri Krishna Stuti- Sangachhadnam - ???

>

> Shri Devi Stuti-Nirvanshatakam- ??

>

> Devi Suktam

>

> While doggidly looking for the meanings of theses prayers I found I

had more questions on ..well...everything LOL......Like could someone

send me a list of the Bharat Bhakti- (I think thats how its spelled)

the morning prayers.....and there meanings too..... I think I have

overwhelmed you with all of this and am sorry for my ignorance.....I

will stop here with the questions....for now <grin> ..... Thank you

for your patience and help....

>

>

-Robin

 

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

Ammachi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Trying to let you see that what you're saying is nothing more than

your mind's attempt at creating an obstacle: procrastination. It

is good to know what you're praying (although Amma does say that

knowing the meaning doesn't matter, that the prayer will still have

effect), but in "practical" reality, when it comes to Sanskrit verses

(not talking about short ones), trying to contemplate the meaning will

not only be not-effective, it will literally not be possible in the

beginning.

 

If you're going to chant Sanskrit, chant it with concentration and

whatever feeling you can muster. Later, when you have the prayer down

pat, it'll be easier to feel the meaning and give proper attention to

the chanting. Like playing tennis, learn the basics before getting

fancy, or you'll end up on Prozac, Paxil... Like the musician

learning the notes before putting feeling into it... understand?

In reality, whether or not you have the meaning for a prayer won't

effect your motivation, your mind is just telling you that, believe me

I know.

 

It has nothing to do with how a person learns, and everything how one

performs sadhana. If you wait for motivation or inspiration, you're

no different than an animal or lunatic, both of which can do things

when motivated or inspired to . Sort of like, don't wait for your

father to get lung cancer before being motivated to quit smoking, like

a woman I used to know. You never know when your last day will come,

don't waste it "waiting" for things that may never come (like the

meanings of the prayers). Do what you can with the time that's given you.

 

tom

 

 

Ammachi, Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel> wrote:

>

> I don't mean to offend you in any way..and maybe I am confused...but

WHAT is with all the critisim.....??? I don't know if Im taking you

the wrong way or what and I DO know that you mean well.....and I

understand what your saying but not everyone is the same ....not

everyone learns in the same way....I have to do what inspires me I can

not just "do it" I have to have motivation.......I still thank you for

your guidance and MY GOODNESS your teaching me all about patients!

.......<wink>

 

> "Tom <tomgull@m...>" <tomgull@m...> wrote:Too much "I, my" in your

writing, maybe self-inquiry would be

> better... :(

>

> Like Amma says about Devotional Fervor, don't wait for the feeling to

> come, or it's like waiting for the waves of the ocean to subside

> before going in (to paraphrase). Just do it, and the feeling will

> come. Anyone, and I mean anyone, can do things when they're

> inspired, even animals. Passion burns quickly like a flash fire (no

> staying power, oh so many divorces because of the loss of passion).

> It takes dedication and discipline to do things with the Faith that

> they will produce results, regardless of what it feels like at the

> time, or any feeling at all.

>

> I tried to explain to you that it's going to be hard finding

> translations for sanskrit prayers, unless a scholarly devotee has

> taken the time to do it, and make it available. Good luck while you

> wait,

>

> tom

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Thanks for reminding me!! :o) Happy Secular New Year!

 

Om Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu

Om Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu

Om Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu

Om ParaShaktyai Namaha ShantiOm

 

In a message dated 12/31/02 5:53:15 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Ammachi writes:

 

<< Too much "I, my" in your writing, maybe self-inquiry would be

better... :( >>

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procrastination.... Yes ...I get it now...LOL....I think somehow the cosmos are

trying to make me understand what your are saying as well...I read a story..

lastnight actually...and when I began to read your email it was the first thing

I thought of....it hit me.....I can't remember his name (of course you will) but

Im just getting the feel of hinduism..... it was Vaysa Or something like that

the one who wrote the Ramayana I believe....he was a thief and went to a

spiritual master and told him to give him somthing and the only thing he had to

give was a mantra to make him the richest man....so he gave him the mantra

Mara...which of course means evil...so as he is saying the mantra he realizes

hes been fooled and is really repeating Rama....anyway you all know the

story....I do understand now ....thank you very much Tom....Om Shanti, Shanti,

Shanti....

 

"Tom <tomgull" <tomgull wrote:Trying to let you see that what

you're saying is nothing more than

your mind's attempt at creating an obstacle: procrastination. It

is good to know what you're praying (although Amma does say that

knowing the meaning doesn't matter, that the prayer will still have

effect), but in "practical" reality, when it comes to Sanskrit verses

(not talking about short ones), trying to contemplate the meaning will

not only be not-effective, it will literally not be possible in the

beginning.

 

If you're going to chant Sanskrit, chant it with concentration and

whatever feeling you can muster. Later, when you have the prayer down

pat, it'll be easier to feel the meaning and give proper attention to

the chanting. Like playing tennis, learn the basics before getting

fancy, or you'll end up on Prozac, Paxil... Like the musician

learning the notes before putting feeling into it... understand?

In reality, whether or not you have the meaning for a prayer won't

effect your motivation, your mind is just telling you that, believe me

I know.

 

It has nothing to do with how a person learns, and everything how one

performs sadhana. If you wait for motivation or inspiration, you're

no different than an animal or lunatic, both of which can do things

when motivated or inspired to . Sort of like, don't wait for your

father to get lung cancer before being motivated to quit smoking, like

a woman I used to know. You never know when your last day will come,

don't waste it "waiting" for things that may never come (like the

meanings of the prayers). Do what you can with the time that's given you.

 

tom

 

 

Ammachi, Robin Wilson <lilymoonjewel> wrote:

>

> I don't mean to offend you in any way..and maybe I am confused...but

WHAT is with all the critisim.....??? I don't know if Im taking you

the wrong way or what and I DO know that you mean well.....and I

understand what your saying but not everyone is the same ....not

everyone learns in the same way....I have to do what inspires me I can

not just "do it" I have to have motivation.......I still thank you for

your guidance and MY GOODNESS your teaching me all about patients!

.......<wink>

 

> "Tom <tomgull@m...>" <tomgull@m...> wrote:Too much "I, my" in your

writing, maybe self-inquiry would be

> better... :(

>

> Like Amma says about Devotional Fervor, don't wait for the feeling to

> come, or it's like waiting for the waves of the ocean to subside

> before going in (to paraphrase). Just do it, and the feeling will

> come. Anyone, and I mean anyone, can do things when they're

> inspired, even animals. Passion burns quickly like a flash fire (no

> staying power, oh so many divorces because of the loss of passion).

> It takes dedication and discipline to do things with the Faith that

> they will produce results, regardless of what it feels like at the

> time, or any feeling at all.

>

> I tried to explain to you that it's going to be hard finding

> translations for sanskrit prayers, unless a scholarly devotee has

> taken the time to do it, and make it available. Good luck while you

> wait,

>

> tom

 

Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha!

 

Ammachi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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