Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 Dear Brothers & Sisters, People will tell you all kinds of stories about gurus and their activities. Some of these may be valid, some not. We have NO way to validate these stories! A word of advice to those absolutely bent on "hating" a particular Guru: Ammachi forgives even her enemies since she is the epitome of compassion. Other Gurus may NOT be so forgiving of people that say or spread false rumors about them or have hatred against them in their hearts. Therefore, if you do not have first hand experience with a particular Guru, do NOT hate them within your being. The best course is to remain NEUTRAL. Neither like nor dislike. This is especially true when stories such as these are floating around. Do a search on the web and you will find a lot of mud-slinging going on. Agreed, there are definitely some fake gurus, but who are you to judge them if you never met them! Who knows, if the person you hate has real powers and is not so forgiving of such insults, then it may not be in your best interests...! The same is true of religion. Lets face it, some of us find particular religions and religious habits annoying! If we were to let people follow their own path to realise God and give them the "space" in our hearts to do as they wish, we would not be close to a war as we are today. In summary, do not hate a particular guru or religion just because someone told u something about that guru or religion. Listen carefully and attentively to what they have to say and move on. I write this out of concern for all of you. Please keep it in mind. May the divinity in you guide you. Om Amriteshwarya Namah Ravi Krishnan --- "Tom <tomgull" <tomgull wrote: > First of all, the truth is that much of what is > claimed about Sai > Baba (him not actually healing people or help > people) can very well > be said about Amma. Uplifting stories are nice, > but not an accurate > picture of what to expect from being an Amma > devotee. For every > "uplifting" story, I'm sure there's a hundred > devotees being > left out in the cold, so to say with Karma being the > excuse. But > certain people, like to ignore that aspect of > reality. There are > many christians (even Bible christians) in India, > and it being a poor > country, I'm sure some could be pursuaded to say > things that weren't > true for needed money. Bible Christians have the > most to fear from a > man who says he'll re-incarnate into a 3rd Baba, a > picture manifested > of which looks like Jesus and the second coming (not > that I care). > > For those who don't believe people can be such > liars, right now I > literally have the FBI doing surveillance on me > because co-workers > (trying to get me fired) told my boss that I said > I'd bring a gun to > work and shoot my bosses (years ago). I finally got > them to move out > of the apartment across the way after trying to run > my car into one of > their agent's cars because I couldn't even leave > the house to go > grocery shopping without being followed. I think > they've watched > Minority Report too many times. Years ago, my > brother had a problem > with one of his co-workers going into internet chat > rooms using my > brother's identity to meet girls, trying to cause > problems for my > brother who is happily married. > > It appears that some people obviously lead a > sheltered life and don't > encounter people who are truly demonic in every > sense of the word. > > Here's some more of what Ammachi "supposedly" said > about other gurus, > when asked. Start reading the thread that begins > with "An Account of > Ammachi's take on Frank" at this Adi Da page: > http://lightgate.net/archives/daism-03/daism-03.mv > ?module=view&viewid=1813&row=190 > > Here's some samples from their discussions: > > (snip) It's interesting that She told someone it was > ok to visit > Sathya Sai Baba, considering how I heard later She > angrily burned all > his books (according to a report by a poster at the > kwf). Andy was > puzzled by Her granting ok to a questioner, because > he was aware of > all the reports surfacing about Sai Baba also.(snip) > > > This all plays out worse for Ammachi than Sai Baba. > Why? Because she > knew and did nothing about it. How do I know? > Because she runs on the > platform of all-knowing. Ask the high level > desciples, and they will > affirm this. Therefore, she knew, and only burned > the books, if she > did so at all, after public pressure made it obvious > that she had to. > OR, she did not feel his phallic philandering was > really such a > problem: that his virtue exceeded his vices. If this > is the case, it > raises both questions about her own indulgences, her > validity of > perception of moral/spiritual > > > > Ammachi, Ellen Lamb > <jyotsna2> wrote: > > > Yes, Nick, I agree with you. I have studied > > with a person who has access to Amma and who has > > asked her many times about the guy in question, > > and what she tells me is different than this > > unsigned post. "Amma doesn't want to hurt > anyone's > > feelings," is what I was told. That's all I feel > > it is prudent to say here. Let's just all try > > to get along:) and not hurt anyone's feelings. > > > > This is an Amma list, and I'm on it because I > > am interested in Her. Can we talk more about > > Amma? I'm sure others beside myself want to > > hear more uplifting stories! > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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