Guest guest Posted March 21, 2003 Report Share Posted March 21, 2003 Mother is always with you A talk given by brahmacharini Nirmalamrita Chaitanya at the M.A. center in san ramon, california, june 1997 Attachment to a Mahatma, Satguru or God-realized soul such as Mother is different from attachments to other things. Through our attachment to Mother, our attachments to the things of the world drop away. And through our attachment to Mother, we become devoted to Her. We begin wanting to serve Her. As our love and devotion to Amma grows in us, we will focus more on Her. As our thoughts become tuned to Mother, we become more and more like Her -- nay, we ourselves become Mother, who is actually the Divinity within each of us. Mother attracts us with Her divine love. And the more attached we become, the more She can mould us, shape us and purify us. The more we surrender to Her and see Her hand in all that happens to us, the more we will become purified. Actually, Mother's external form is a important as the internal Mother, the Mother who is always with us, who exists within us as our true Self. This is because without the external form we cannot come to know the internal Mother. All the service we do for the external Mother is actually done to please the inner Mother. Mother creates situations in which we have to rely on Her help, and thus Mother's constant, compassionate presence is affirmed, renewing our faith. I remember an instance like this that happened some years ago, which illustrates how Mother works miracles even in seemingly mundane situations. During the early years of my stay in Amritapuri, the cooking at the ashram was still done in the old kitchen, and also outside over the fire. At that time I was responsible, as I still am, for the Western canteen. On one particular day, I found out at the last minute that there was nobody available to cook the soup for the evening canteen. I was completely inexperienced in making soup, let alone over a fire. But a friend of mine said she would help me, so we brought our supplies to the backyard of the kitchen to make the soup. Both of us knew very little about making a fire or about where in the woodshed to find the good firewood. When we went to collect the firewood, there was nothing but wet wood. We searched every corner of the shed, climbing all over the piles of wood, but everything was wet. It was the tail end of the monsoon season and the roof of the shed leaked badly. We knew that the women who regularly cooked for the ashram kept dry firewood someplace, but nobody was around and we couldn't find a single piece. Time was running short and furthermore it was getting dark. We somehow had to make the soup because that was our duty; but how would it be possible? Finally, as we were scrambling over a pile of wood, I prayed very hard to Mother. I said, "Mother, if you want us to make soup, you had better get us some dry firewood, because without it we can't make a fire!" At that moment a large, heavy gunny sack fell right on top of my friend's head from the rafters of the shed. She was startled but not hurt. We looked into the bag and were wonderstruck at what we saw. The bag was full of old, dry coconut shells, which burn beautifully. Mother had provided us with what we needed to complete our task of serving Her. The timing was far too uncanny for it to be called a coincidence. It was clearly Mother's doing. I know this may seem like an insignificant incident, but it shows us that Mother is ready to help us out of any predicament, no matter how mundane, if we just call out to Her. Even though it is true that Mother is always with us, when we are separated from Her, we feel sad because of our attachment to Her. This kind of sorrow is actually good for us. Mother is the Universal Being, and that is what we ourselves have to become. To become that Truth, we have to remove the ego. But to remove the ego is painful. There is no way around that; mo matter what path you are on, the process of removing the ego is painful. That's tapas. The pain that we sometimes experience because of our attachment to Amma has the effect of wearing down our egos. This is the kind of pain that will make us grow, and will lead us to freedom. Mother interacts with us and cultivates a relationship with us. A longing is created within us, and that longing is so intense it can be painful. That's what the gopis experienced with Krishna, and through their devotion to Him they realized their universal Self -- they realized their oneness with their beloved Lord. Amma's presence is within each one of us, but we need to remember that She is within others too. In the Bible Christ says: "For I was hungry and you gave me food. I was thirsty and you gave me to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was in prison and you came to me." Amma's presence is within each one of us, but we need to remember that She is within others too. Then the righteous will answer Him, "Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee to drink? And when did we see thee a stranger and welcome thee or naked and clothe thee? And when did we see thee sick or in prison and visit thee?" And the King will answer them, "Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me." There is also another way to look at others that will remind us of the presence of Mother in all we see. We cherish things which Mother has touched. These things are Mother's prasad. They are imbued with Her Divinity. They are precious to us and remind us of Mother -- so they are good. But we tend to forget that if a flower that Mother has walked on, or held in Her hand, is sacred and precious and should be treated with reverence, then are we ourselves not even more sacred? -- because Mother has touched us and held us close to Her so many times, and has talked to us and loved us and wiped the tears from our eyes. We are Mother's children; and since we are Her children, we are little versions of Her. After all, if the children of cats are baby cats, and the children of giraffes are baby giraffes, it is only logical that the children of giraffes are baby giraffes, it is only logical that the children of the Divine Mother are baby Divine Mothers. This means that when we "grow up," we will be like Her. So each of us are Her prasad, and so we should treat each other with respect, honour and love. We should cherish each other and realize that we are all sacred; because, not only has She held each of us so closely, but we are all Her children, which means that means that everyone you see is a little version of Amma. This hall is also sacred, because Mother has sat in it, the ground is sacred because She has walked on it, and the air is sacred because She has breathed it. In fact, the whole world is sacred because she has travelled around it, and the ocean is tirtha (holy water) because it has washed Her feet. This world is Her creation and deserves to be treated respectfully and lovingly; in fact, the whole universe is part of Mother. Everything is Hers - even more than that: everything and everyone is Her. So if all of this creation is precious and sacred, and if Mother is with us always, then one may ask what the need is of Mother's physical body. Why should we spend time with Mother's physical form if She is always with us? The problem is that we do not yet experience that truth. It is through devotion and service to Mother's external form that we come to know Her real form, Her universal cosmic form. Our ignorance reminds me of a story of a little frog that lived in a well. It had lived there for a long time. It was born and brought up there. One day, another frog that had lived in the sea came and fell into the well. The frog of the well asked the newcomer, "Where do you come from?" and the frog from the sea replied, "I am from the sea." The frog in the well said, "The sea! How big is the sea?" The frog from the sea said, "Oh, very big!" The little frog from the well stretched his legs and arms out and asked, "Is your sea this big?" The frog from the sea said, "No, the sea is much bigger than that." The little well frog leapt from one side of the well to the other and said, "Is it this big? Is it as big as my well?" The frog from the sea said to the little frog, "My friend, how can you compare this well with the sea?" The frog from the well asserted, "No, there can never be anything bigger than my well. Nothing is bigger than this. This fellow is a liar!" This story illustrates how narrow our vision is. We think our little narrow world is all there is, the ultimate reality. We think the world that we experience through our sense organs is the only thing that is real. Sitting in the little wells of our ego we cannot conceive of Amma, who is the Paramatman, the Supreme Self who illumines all of creation. Though we cannot comprehend Mother as She really is, by worshipping and serving Her external form, we will come to know the Truth. There is another important aspect to Mother's presence in our lives. Mother's true nature is pure love and compassion. A true devotee who has the attitude of total surrender to Mother will understand that everything that happens in their life, both good and bad, is given by Mother and is for their own good. But from our limited viewpoint we do not see the reason why certain things happen to us. Even when good things happen to us we do not see that it is God's Grace. In fact, if we go back to the story of the trapper and the Eskimo, we can see that even though the trapper's life was saved, he would nevertheless eventually have to die. That is inevitable. There is one absolute certainty, and that is that each one of us is going to die someday. That doesn't mean that God doesn't exist. When we pray to Mother or God or whatever form of the Divine we worship, our prayers sometimes don't get answered in the way that we expect. Mother says that by our faith, surrender and devotion, the suffering that we must go through because of our karma will be lessened to some degree; but that doesn't mean we don't need to go through suffering. Someone who has fully surrendered, and who sees everything as God's Grace will become so detached from their body, that even if the body has to suffer in some way, they will not be affected by it. The truth is that whatever experiences we go through are for our own evolution towards our ultimate union with the Supreme Reality. If we can go through life with an attitude of surrender, we will see the hand of God working in all situations in our lives. There is a beautiful story that I would like to tell to you that happened some years ago in Mother's Ashram in India. There was a young man who was studying the Indian scriptures. He was an ardent devotee of the Divine Mother and used to chant the Lalita Sahasranama (the 1,000 names of the Divine Mother) every day without fail. He had heard about Mother and eagerly wanted to meet Her. Finally, he had an opportunity to go to Mother's Ashram and was waiting at the bottom of Her steps for Her to come down from Her room. He was thinking at the time about a particular mantra in the Lalita Sahasranama, which means: "Salutations to She who enjoys camphor-laden betel rolls, the fragrance of which permeates the whole universe and attracts people from all directions." The word "fragrance" in this mantra symbolises the Divine Love which attracts all of creation to the Supreme Reality. The young man thought to himself that if Mother really was the one that this mantra was referring to, She should give him some sort of sign. With this strong resolve in his heart, he waited at the bottom of Mother's stairs. A little while later, Mother came down, and the strange thing was that She was chewing on something. This is unusual because you will never see Mother coming down the stairs chewing anything. I certainly have never seen Her do this. Mother walked right up to the young man, opened Her mouth and, pointing Her finger at Her mouth, said to him, "Look, son! This is karpura vitika (camphor-laden betel rolls). A devotee gave it to Amma." Then She walked away. The young man was shocked. He realized that Mother was the Divine Mother, whom he had been worshipping all his life. Isn't it extraordinary to think that the Divine Mother herself is actually walking among us disguised in that beautiful human form? In conclusion, when Mother tells us that She is always with us, it is the absolute truth. This truth is the same truth expounded by all the religions of the world, which teach us that God is omnipresent. This is Mother's own experience. It could also become our experience if we purify our minds through spiritual practices. In the meanwhile, we can remember that we are all not only brothers and sisters, but verily Mother's prasadam. We are Mother's children. So we should treat each other and ourselves that way. I would like to end with a quote of Mother's. In this quote, She is speaking of the Compassionate Ones, the Mahatmas. Of course, Mother Herself is the very embodiment of what is being described here: "Those whose hearts are filled with love and concern are like a river that flows down from the highest mountain. They are like the Ganges. After having ascended to the highest peak of bliss, out of compassion they flow down from the heights in order to let others bathe in them, drink from them and swim in them. They are like a fruit tree growing by the side of the road, offering its fruit to everyone. Tired travellers can enjoy the fruit; they can quench their thirst and appease their hunger. They are like a beautiful lotus blossoming in a temple pond. People can gather around to enjoy its beauty and delight in its fragrance, and in doing so, they feel contented. Like bees coming to collect pollen for honey, people will gather around the compassionate ones, waiting for pearls of wisdom to fall from their lips. They themselves become an offering to the people. Such souls have wholly surrendered themselves to all of existence, yet out of compassion they offer themselves back to the world." It is my heartfelt prayer that each and every one of us will drink and bathe in the holy waters of our beloved Amma, and will come to realize that She is verily the Essence within each one of us. Jai Ma, Ravi Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 Hi Ravi, This was a beautiful talk to share. Thank you. I wanted to share some of my experiences in relation to two points in this talk. 1. External Divine Mother vs the Internal Divine Mother Years ago in college, a friend and I used to discuss many philospohical and spiritual (if they can be differentiated so) points. He used to chant the Gayatri mantra even then, where I was a 'bookish' kind of spiritual person. I asked him about his practice. He told me that he was inspired by his chacha (father's brother) to do so, and told me that chanting a mantra regularly was the easiest walk to attain DEFINITE spiritual progress. He had picked up the Gayatri mantra from his elderly relative because he had heard that it was considered the most powerful mantra. I asked him its significance. He said the mantra quiets the mind. Constant chanting of mantra leaves the mind with only thought - of the mantra. These were his words, which I have been able to remember even now. "From many thoughts to one thought; from one to none." To me, the one thought (Gayatri Mantra) is the same as the External Divine Mother, and the none (no thought) is the Internal Divine Mother. I can only see these two ways of looking at the truth as two sides of the same coin. Clinging to the External Amma (and only cling to Her) will lead you to the Internal Amma - such is my firm belief now. 2. The firewood story It is true that Amma listens to you the moment you REALLY talk to Her. This is an incident from this Thursday (03/20/2003). A friend from work was asking me about my spiritual activities. I told him about Amma; he said he has heard about Her but could not place where exactly. So, I offered to give him my copy of the Swamiji's-written biography. At home, I thought I will give him the "Intro to Amma" video also, as it is short and cannot bore him sufficiently to put it off before it is over! I got the video alright, but the book proved to be an elusive chap. I searched everywhere in my house (twice over), and was puzzled and worried I did not get the book. I gave up and went to watch TV. 5 minutes into it, I got up and told myself I will check it again. I again went through the same spots and I could not find the book. In frustration and surrender, I said within myself, "Amma, if it is true that you don't want to get out of here, then so be it. Else please come into my hands." THE VERY NEXT MOMENT, THE BOOK I PICKED UP FROM THE BOOKCASE WAS AMMA'S BIOGRAPHY! I was thrilled and shocked! I knew it was no coincidence. Later on, I thought, I used the words "get out of here" (came out very spontaneously), so I guess She may have manifested Herself more out of the sheer relief of "getting out of my life and hopefully getting a temporary (or even permanent) better residence somewhere else!". lol. who knows, but could very well be true too! Such is our dear dear Divine Amma! Jai Ma! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 Namah Shivaya Manoj, I have a story regarding the external and internal Amma that you referred to. It was the 2002 michigan retreat and it was about 3.30am. There were less than 50 people in the hall! What a privilege! The question was asked by a friend who came for darshan. He simply asked what the difference between the external and internal Amma is. Amma replied lovingly (interspersed with jokes and laughter all around) that making the external Amma all yours is like holding water in your hand. The harder you try to hold it, the easier it slips away. The internal Amma on the other hand, is trapped in your heart. She will not leave unless you ask her to! I had the good fortune of doing prasad seva at the time she was answering the question. A range of thoughts, including some naughty ones came to my mind. No sooner had I thought it that Amma gave me a "look" and said, "Enna da?!" meaning 'what'? I kind of blushed and said something to make up. :-) She is verily the essence of everything in this world. In the Lalitha Sahasranama, one of the names of the divine mother is Gayatri. So, the prayer from the Gayatri Mantra is in fact being addressed (or routed) to her! Your book story was very interesting. We cannot call something like this a 'coincidence'! Jai Jai Ma, Ravi Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 Brothers Ravi and Manoj, Fine stories. The internal/external issue is something I have given a lot of thought to and something that continues to exercise my mind. I am in sync with brother Ravi's observation that chasing the external Amma is not a game that one can ever win. The external Amma, like all things in the natural world, is a limited resource. When people in the world fight to the very death over material goods, there is little reason to believe that the fight for the external Amma is likely to be less fierce. I have personally witnessed, from a distance, the positioning and jockeying for space that goes on around Amma at various satsangs. There have been and will always be, the influential breakers of queues, the private audiences to which many are not invited and so on. This is not to suggest that any of this is 'bad'; there are, more often than not, excellent reasons for all of this. However inequality of opportunity for 'Amma-time' is a fact of life. That fact does trouble me from time to time, especially when I feel I am running short of guidance. There are always so many questions in my mind that seem at once trivial and important life-and-death issues. Trivial, in the big picture which is always in the background but important, in the foreground of my personal experience where most of my attention is usually focussed. To stave off potential disappointment, I have consciously chosen to 'target' the internal Amma. Of course, when the external Amma comes around, like sushi on a revolving platter in a Japanese restaurant, I do take a bite (my apologies to those who find the analogy odious!) but I do not find running with the platter to be a productive enterprise. Even the Brahmacharis/Brahmacharinis in the ashram get only tiny slices of the physical Amma; the average slice size in this group is severely disproportionate to their physical investments by way of 'sadhana' and 'seva'. In contrast to the 'high internal-low external Amma' group referred to above, the lives of the 'high external-low internal Amma' group present an interesting study. Every satsang probably has a complement of the latter type; I myself have come across a few. There are those for instance who jet around the world, from Zurich to Japan, just to 'hang out' with Amma and sing 'bhajans' with Her group but I see few signs of their having internalized any significant component of Her teachings. Finally, I guess there are the truly blessed, those who are in the category of what might be termed, 'high external-high internal Amma' followers. Even if Amma says, as She does somewhere in the Awaken series (?), that the leaves at the base of the plant are as dear to Her as those near the flower, one cannot help thinking wistfully about being near the flower. For the rest of us - far-flung devotees who see Her but once a year for a grand total of 20 seconds, the memory of Her fragrant presence must necessarily be treasured above the fragrance itself. Humbly, Om Amriteshwaryai Namah fg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Ammachi, Ravishankar Krishnan <ravkris> wrote: > The question was asked by a friend who came for > darshan. He simply asked what the difference between > the external and internal Amma is. Amma replied > lovingly (interspersed with jokes and laughter all > around) that making the external Amma all yours is > like holding water in your hand. The harder you try to > hold it, the easier it slips away. The internal Amma > on the other hand, is trapped in your heart. She will > not leave unless you ask her to! > Namah Shivaya Ravi (and fg). I agree completely with Amma's answer, and your conclusions - that "making the external Amma ALL YOURS is like holding water in your hand". However, that is not what I meant by "clinging to Amma" (refer my earlier mail). What I meant was "making ONLY the external Amma YOUR ALL". If you can see the subtle difference between the two, you will realize that we are all in complete agreement. What a rare thing to happen in a discussion! Jai Ma! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Namah Shivaya. , you will > realize that we are all in complete agreement. What a rare thing to > happen in a discussion! > > Jai Ma! Jai Ma! indeed. While external She may be as elusive as water, Her grace flows like water into every crack of our existence. How else could this rare thing occur! So grateful for that grace and its many manifestations in this satsang. And to add to this thread: In a recent exchange with another local devotee, was celebrating the way Amma can be smiling with one eye and weeping with the other, addressing 2 different needs at the same time. We had been talking about how surely Amma must not be smiling at the violent conflict underway. The next time I went to our altar and looked at the picture of Amma smiling, I could see tears in her eyes. Now I see them every time I look at the picture. premarupa Aum Amriteshvaryai Namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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