Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Can anyone tell me where I can read about life as a Sanyasin? Renunciation has always appealed to me, but I don't know if it's right for me. I recently found out that my birthchart is unusually loaded with Sanyasin karma, so now I'm really curious! Thank you, MSoliz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 The book "On the Road to Freedom: A Pilgrimage in India: The Autobiography of Swami Paramatmananda Puri" (there are two volumes) gives a taste of what life as a Sannyasi is like.......Another good way to find out if this kind of life is for you or not is to spend time in India at Amritapuri. I went there in '98 for this very reason, to see if I could handle the austerities, etc. Peace, Kirsten khd5 - "MSoliz" <msoliz2000 <Ammachi> Monday, May 26, 2003 3:56 PM Renunciation > Can anyone tell me where I can read about life as a Sanyasin? > Renunciation has always appealed to me, but I don't know if it's > right for me. I recently found out that my birthchart is unusually > loaded with Sanyasin karma, so now I'm really curious! > > Thank you, > MSoliz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Thank you Kirsten - I will look for the book immediately. Can you tell me about the austerities at the Ashram? I know what the term means, but how is it experienced in that setting? Ammachi, <khd5@a...> wrote: > The book "On the Road to Freedom: A Pilgrimage in India: The Autobiography of Swami Paramatmananda Puri" (there are two volumes) gives a taste of what life as a Sannyasi is like.......Another good way to find out if this kind of life is for you or not is to spend time in India at Amritapuri. I went there in '98 for this very reason, to see if I could handle the austerities, etc. > > Peace, > > Kirsten > khd5@a... > > > > - > "MSoliz" <msoliz2000> > <Ammachi> > Monday, May 26, 2003 3:56 PM > Renunciation > > > > Can anyone tell me where I can read about life as a Sanyasin? > > Renunciation has always appealed to me, but I don't know if it's > > right for me. I recently found out that my birthchart is unusually > > loaded with Sanyasin karma, so now I'm really curious! > > > > Thank you, > > MSoliz > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Namah Shivaya, A question from the kids site: A spiritual aspirant living at Amma's ashram should have the attitude (towards God) of? 1. A kitten 2. A baby eaglet 3. A baby monkey 4. Any of the above. I'll do a little cheating here and give you the answer first! Its 4, any of the above. For an explanation, read on.. 2 January 2001, Amritapuri As is customary, Amma came and joined the ashramites in meditation today. A great feeling of peace and silence filled the temple as Amma led Her children through meditation. When the meditation finished, Amma posed a question to all: "What attitude should a spiritual aspirant living at the ashram have?" Several good answers were given by those present. One brahmacharini said that more than anything else a deep sense of devotion was necesary to be successful in spiritual life. Shortly after this answer, one of Amma's western children expressed her concern over a friend who felt she was lost because she lacked this devotion. At this point Amma was then asked to clarify, "What is real devotion?" Amma gave a beautiful example to illustrate the attitude devotees should have towards God. She described the relationships kittens, baby monkeys and eagles have with their mothers. Whenever a kitten finds itself in trouble, it will simply stop where it is and begin to cry out for its mother. It will not move from that place or stop crying until it is heard. The mother will then arrive and lovingly pick up her child with her mouth and take it to safety. The baby monkey always clings to its mother. No matter how much the mother may seem to ignore her child or be busying herself with other things, the child will never let go. It hangs on regardless of how much attention it receives. After the mother eagle hatches her chick she will fly off from the nest, seemingly leaving her baby all alone and helpless. Yet all the while the mother is soaring high above casting a watchful eye on all below. If anything threatens her chick she will immediately swoop down to protect it. Hmm, so how many kittens, monkeys and eaglets do we have here? :-) Jai Ma! Ravi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 On Tue, 27 May 2003 01:17:08 -0000 "ravkris" <ravkris writes: > > > Whenever a kitten finds itself in trouble, it will simply stop where > it is and begin to cry out for its mother. It will not move from > that > place or stop crying until it is heard. The mother will then arrive > and lovingly pick up her child with her mouth and take it to safety. > > The baby monkey always clings to its mother. No matter how much the > mother may seem to ignore her child or be busying herself with other > things, the child will never let go. It hangs on regardless of how > much attention it receives. > > After the mother eagle hatches her chick she will fly off from the > nest, seemingly leaving her baby all alone and helpless. Yet all the > while the mother is soaring high above casting a watchful eye on all > below. If anything threatens her chick she will immediately swoop > down to protect it. I recall reading a similar story which stated that the relationship of baby monkey to Mama monkey typified Lord Krishna's grace to his worshippers, and that of kitten to Mama cat typified Lord Shiva's grace. The eagles weren't mentioned, but I wonder if eaglet to Mama eagle might not typify Ma Kali's grace? -- Len/ Kalipadma ______________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 That is such a touching story! Thank you so much for sharing it. Ammachi, "ravkris" <ravkris> wrote: > Namah Shivaya, > > A question from the kids site: > > A spiritual aspirant living at Amma's ashram should have the attitude > (towards God) of? > 1. A kitten > 2. A baby eaglet > 3. A baby monkey > 4. Any of the above. > > I'll do a little cheating here and give you the answer first! Its 4, > any of the above. For an explanation, read on.. > > 2 January 2001, Amritapuri > > As is customary, Amma came and joined the ashramites in meditation > today. A great feeling of peace and silence filled the temple as Amma > led Her children through meditation. When the meditation finished, > Amma posed a question to all: "What attitude should a spiritual > aspirant living at the ashram have?" Several good answers were given > by those present. One brahmacharini said that more than anything else > a deep sense of devotion was necesary to be successful in spiritual > life. Shortly after this answer, one of Amma's western children > expressed her concern over a friend who felt she was lost because she > lacked this devotion. At this point Amma was then asked to > clarify, "What is real devotion?" > > Amma gave a beautiful example to illustrate the attitude devotees > should have towards God. She described the relationships kittens, > baby monkeys and eagles have with their mothers. > > Whenever a kitten finds itself in trouble, it will simply stop where > it is and begin to cry out for its mother. It will not move from that > place or stop crying until it is heard. The mother will then arrive > and lovingly pick up her child with her mouth and take it to safety. > > The baby monkey always clings to its mother. No matter how much the > mother may seem to ignore her child or be busying herself with other > things, the child will never let go. It hangs on regardless of how > much attention it receives. > > After the mother eagle hatches her chick she will fly off from the > nest, seemingly leaving her baby all alone and helpless. Yet all the > while the mother is soaring high above casting a watchful eye on all > below. If anything threatens her chick she will immediately swoop > down to protect it. > > Hmm, so how many kittens, monkeys and eaglets do we have here? :-) > > Jai Ma! > Ravi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 Namah Shivaya, > A question from the kids site: > > A spiritual aspirant living at Amma's ashram should have the attitude > (towards God) of? > 1. A kitten > 2. A baby eaglet > 3. A baby monkey > 4. Any of the above. So, is a spiritual aspirant's attitude supppose to be different at the Ashram than any other place? Om Amriteswaryai Namaha! Kandar (Peter White) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 - <KandarW <Ammachi> Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:33 AM Re: Re: Renunciation > Namah Shivaya, > > > A question from the kids site: > > > > A spiritual aspirant living at Amma's ashram should have the attitude > > (towards God) of? > > 1. A kitten > > 2. A baby eaglet > > 3. A baby monkey > > 4. Any of the above. > > > So, is a spiritual aspirant's attitude supppose to be different at the Ashram > than any other place? > > Om Amriteswaryai Namaha! And does the mother kitten say her mantra when she's picking up her baby kitten? julan xx > > Kandar (Peter White) > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Ammachi > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2003 Report Share Posted May 28, 2003 Jai Kandar: > > So, is a spiritual aspirant's attitude supppose to be different at the Ashram than any other place? Dont most devotees go there as 'tourists', I mean, visitors? In a sense, the attitude one develops there would probably be a preparation for living in the world outside. I guess being in physical promixity to Amma has its advantages since She can give physical attention to Her devotees who are like kittens,eaglets or baby monkeys in their devotion. The rest of us who have kitten,eaglet or monkey-like attitudes have to wait for a signal that She heard us wherever we are. Many times, She responds or protects us by coming in the form of someone we know or recognize, yet we never realise it and come up with logical explanations of how things worked out...oh well, such is the human mind.. Jai Julan: > > And does the mother kitten say her mantra when she's picking up her baby kitten? Remember, She is the one who is 'sarva mantra swarupini',i.e. one who is the essence of all mantras... Namah Shivaya, Ravi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 > Jai Julan: > And does the mother kitten say her mantra when she's picking up > her baby kitten? > Remember, She is the one who is 'sarva mantra swarupini',i.e. one who > is the essence of all mantras... > > Namah Shivaya, > Ravi Jai Ravi and all I was thinking about real kittens, rather than mummy Amma kitten. I sometimes feel there are so many instructions and ideas about how to find love in our hearts yet a mother in her natural instinctive way surely is love? So many things we do in daily life for our kids are surely like puja, mantra and love in action? Someone wise I once went to see (I think it was Jai Ma) said "don't do spiritual practice, do spiritual life" I want to acknowledge everyone for trying hard and meeting challenges in their daily 'mundane' lives I believe with or without Indian spiritual names, practise or mantra we can find and feel incredible love and mama's blessing. If we then add some beautiful prayers and mantras it could get even better My sense is that a really good trick is to love and forgive and accept ourselves where we are right now, rather than pursuing too hard where we might want to be. Perhaps in one breath we could be there already? With much love to all Om Namaha Shivaya julan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2003 Report Share Posted May 29, 2003 Take a look at http://www.vedanta.org/wiv/monastic/wim.html It has a discussion of monastic life in the Ramakrishna Order. You can contact them for questions regarding spirituality and monsaticism. http://www.vedanta.org/wiv/monastic/talkmn.html Hope this helps. Girish On Mon, 26 May 2003 khd5 wrote: > The book "On the Road to Freedom: A Pilgrimage in India: The > Autobiography of Swami Paramatmananda Puri" (there are two volumes) gives > a taste of what life as a Sannyasi is like.......Another good way to find > out if this kind of life is for you or not is to spend time in India at > Amritapuri. I went there in '98 for this very reason, to see if I could > handle the austerities, etc. > > Peace, > > Kirsten > khd5 > > > > - > "MSoliz" <msoliz2000 > <Ammachi> > Monday, May 26, 2003 3:56 PM > Renunciation > > > > Can anyone tell me where I can read about life as a Sanyasin? > > Renunciation has always appealed to me, but I don't know if it's > > right for me. I recently found out that my birthchart is unusually > > loaded with Sanyasin karma, so now I'm really curious! > > > > Thank you, > > MSoliz > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > Ammachi > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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