TOPIC CLOSED: Cultish behavior, emotional expression etc. etc. etc.

[Guest guest]

Hi !!!!!!

 

I wanna join the Amma-group "bad crowd" and contribute to the Hottt outlaw

CLOSED TOPIC that just like the Energizer Bunny, it keeps going and going and

going....

 

Dearest Don,

 

I believe that Kali represents the divine feminine principle and Krishna

represents the divine masculine principle. And I believe that Amma is a person

who

was either born or grew to be fully merged with these principles, therefore,

I believe that Amma is an avatar. I also believe with conviction that The

Beatles collectively were an avatar. It doesn't bother me at all if you

disagree

or see things differently. I think everybody sees things differently,

naturally.

 

Is the idea that some devotees beliefs may seem wacky to the general public

so disturbing that we ought to keep our ideas to ourselves? Should we refrain

from expressing peacefully our own spiritual beliefs lest we alienate

somebody??? Are we supposed to worry that if we say "Amma is Krishna" (because

for us

it's true) it will upset, confuse, or scare someone and make us appear

"cultish"? Isn't this list was the proper place to express these sentiments?

 

Amma devotees are none the same, I've never seen such a diverse and loosely

affiliated bunch of people, barely organized. There's no single belief or

dogma, no intolerance or indoctrination... I just don't get what you mean by

"cultish" If you wanna see "cultish" check out any mainstream religion! They

scare

the BE-Jesus out of me!!!

 

~ A culty woman according to Don (amarthya)

 

 

In a message dated 8/22/03 7:38:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Ammachi writes:

 

Message: 2

Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:19:20 -0000

"Don James" <djames

Re: TOPIC CLOSED: Cultish behavior, emotional expression

 

Ammachi, KandarW@a... wrote:

> Djames@t... writes:

 

<< you misunderstand my position on cultic mindsets. I'm in agreement

with you about those who leave their guru and then bash them for

whatever reason which you went into detail about. I'm not talking

about people who reject their guru, but in just keeping an open mind

to being able to look at our own behavior and see how much of it is

traditionalism and whether some of that is unexamined and may not

really be to the advantage of Amma's cause(s) which are our causes,

too. Those are, in my mind, to bring higher consciousness to those

who can hear it and to bring love and comfort to all. I'm not trying

to say anything negative, but just look at some of the ways that

perhaps the traditionalism of the Hindu Bhakti yoga form may make

Amma's mission less universal. Especially some of the more mythical

thinking, such as her being an Avatar or in incarnation of some god

like Kali of Krishna. These ideas would alienate some of the more

simpler thinkers in society and turn them off and away from the very

real and universal message of enlightenment that Amma does indeed

bring and embody.

>>

[Guest guest]

I know it does not matter who I "think" Amma is, for She is beyond my

minds ability to comprehend. When I try to discuss Her my words fall

so far short, arrows landing far from the target.

 

What is true for me are my experiences around my Divine Mother. These

experiences sound trivial when spoken, but when they happen they rock

my entire being. Call Her guru, saint, avatar, divine incarnation,

whatever you like. For me Amma is IT.

 

As far as who other beings are, or have been I will not attempt to

catagorize. I will try to remember to look for truth to be revealed

to me in my heart with my Amma as the revealer.

 

Jai Ma!

Omana

 

Ammachi, Dianadevi@a... wrote:

> Hi !!!!!!

>

> I wanna join the Amma-group "bad crowd" and contribute to the Hottt

outlaw

> CLOSED TOPIC that just like the Energizer Bunny, it keeps going and

going and

> going....

>

> Dearest Don,

>

> I believe that Kali represents the divine feminine principle and

Krishna

> represents the divine masculine principle. And I believe that Amma

is a person who

> was either born or grew to be fully merged with these principles,

therefore,

> I believe that Amma is an avatar. I also believe with conviction

that The

> Beatles collectively were an avatar. It doesn't bother me at all

if you disagree

> or see things differently. I think everybody sees things

differently,

> naturally.

>

> Is the idea that some devotees beliefs may seem wacky to the

general public

> so disturbing that we ought to keep our ideas to ourselves? Should

we refrain

> from expressing peacefully our own spiritual beliefs lest we

alienate

> somebody??? Are we supposed to worry that if we say "Amma is

Krishna" (because for us

> it's true) it will upset, confuse, or scare someone and make us

appear

> "cultish"? Isn't this list was the proper place to express these

sentiments?

>

> Amma devotees are none the same, I've never seen such a diverse and

loosely

> affiliated bunch of people, barely organized. There's no single

belief or

> dogma, no intolerance or indoctrination... I just don't get what

you mean by

> "cultish" If you wanna see "cultish" check out any mainstream

religion! They scare

> the BE-Jesus out of me!!!

>

> ~ A culty woman according to Don (amarthya)

>

>

> In a message dated 8/22/03 7:38:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> Ammachi writes:

>

> Message: 2

> Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:19:20 -0000

> "Don James" <djames@t...>

> Re: TOPIC CLOSED: Cultish behavior, emotional expression

>

> Ammachi, KandarW@a... wrote:

> > Djames@t... writes:

>

> << you misunderstand my position on cultic mindsets. I'm in

agreement

> with you about those who leave their guru and then bash them for

> whatever reason which you went into detail about. I'm not talking

> about people who reject their guru, but in just keeping an open

mind

> to being able to look at our own behavior and see how much of it

is

> traditionalism and whether some of that is unexamined and may not

> really be to the advantage of Amma's cause(s) which are our

causes,

> too. Those are, in my mind, to bring higher consciousness to those

> who can hear it and to bring love and comfort to all. I'm not

trying

> to say anything negative, but just look at some of the ways that

> perhaps the traditionalism of the Hindu Bhakti yoga form may make

> Amma's mission less universal. Especially some of the more

mythical

> thinking, such as her being an Avatar or in incarnation of some

god

> like Kali of Krishna. These ideas would alienate some of the more

> simpler thinkers in society and turn them off and away from the

very

> real and universal message of enlightenment that Amma does indeed

> bring and embody.

> >>