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Howdy - I don't think the topic of cultish behavior is

closed, I was under the impression it was the

direction it was taking as it applied to other groups.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I agree that Amma is a Divine Incarnation. I've read

it over and over, and more importantly I've

experienced it. In Awaken Children, Amma suggests as

much when she talks about why she chose to take this

life. She also promises to continue incarnating until

all her children have found her. In another book, she

reveals that there was once a great temple built for

Her on the same ground where Amritapuri lies, but it

was thousands of years ago.

 

But, she also doesn't ask that we see her as an

avatar. She is totoally selfless and wants us to see

her however we need to in our own current incarnation.

I only suggest, like others, that no one be judged

according to their vision of Amma.

 

Amma doesn't judge or dissuade us from it. As I

mentioned in a previous post, SHE HAS SAID we may see

her form as God as long as we remember that God is

larger than her form.

 

With love,

Gabriela

 

P.S. I thought I was the only one who believed the

hand of God touched the Beatles!

 

 

 

 

--- Dianadevi wrote:

> Hi !!!!!!

>

> I wanna join the Amma-group "bad crowd" and

> contribute to the Hottt outlaw

> CLOSED TOPIC that just like the Energizer Bunny, it

> keeps going and going and

> going....

>

> Dearest Don,

>

> I believe that Kali represents the divine feminine

> principle and Krishna

> represents the divine masculine principle. And I

> believe that Amma is a person who

> was either born or grew to be fully merged with

> these principles, therefore,

> I believe that Amma is an avatar. I also believe

> with conviction that The

> Beatles collectively were an avatar. It doesn't

> bother me at all if you disagree

> or see things differently. I think everybody sees

> things differently,

> naturally.

>

> Is the idea that some devotees beliefs may seem

> wacky to the general public

> so disturbing that we ought to keep our ideas to

> ourselves? Should we refrain

> from expressing peacefully our own spiritual beliefs

> lest we alienate

> somebody??? Are we supposed to worry that if we say

> "Amma is Krishna" (because for us

> it's true) it will upset, confuse, or scare someone

> and make us appear

> "cultish"? Isn't this list was the proper place to

> express these sentiments?

>

> Amma devotees are none the same, I've never seen

> such a diverse and loosely

> affiliated bunch of people, barely organized.

> There's no single belief or

> dogma, no intolerance or indoctrination... I just

> don't get what you mean by

> "cultish" If you wanna see "cultish" check out any

> mainstream religion! They scare

> the BE-Jesus out of me!!!

>

> ~ A culty woman according to Don (amarthya)

>

>

> In a message dated 8/22/03 7:38:58 AM Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> Ammachi writes:

>

> Message: 2

> Thu, 21 Aug 2003 13:19:20 -0000

> "Don James" <djames

> Re: TOPIC CLOSED: Cultish behavior,

> emotional expression

>

> Ammachi, KandarW@a... wrote:

> > Djames@t... writes:

>

> << you misunderstand my position on cultic mindsets.

> I'm in agreement

> with you about those who leave their guru and then

> bash them for

> whatever reason which you went into detail about.

> I'm not talking

> about people who reject their guru, but in just

> keeping an open mind

> to being able to look at our own behavior and see

> how much of it is

> traditionalism and whether some of that is

> unexamined and may not

> really be to the advantage of Amma's cause(s) which

> are our causes,

> too. Those are, in my mind, to bring higher

> consciousness to those

> who can hear it and to bring love and comfort to

> all. I'm not trying

> to say anything negative, but just look at some of

> the ways that

> perhaps the traditionalism of the Hindu Bhakti yoga

> form may make

> Amma's mission less universal. Especially some of

> the more mythical

> thinking, such as her being an Avatar or in

> incarnation of some god

> like Kali of Krishna. These ideas would alienate

> some of the more

> simpler thinkers in society and turn them off and

> away from the very

> real and universal message of enlightenment that

> Amma does indeed

> bring and embody.

> >>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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