Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 > > "only those souls who still maintain even a > minimal level of > > violence within their natures will ever die > violent deaths." > > This is quite debatable. Mahatma Gandhi (who was an > apostle of non- > violence) died a violent death. Ramana Maharishi > once mentioned that > Gandhi was enlightened towards the end of his life. > Shakti Gawain is a pop-culture liberal-peacenik leftover from the 1960s. Nonetheless, she offers an interesting take on the assassinations of Gandhi and John Lennon (and could be applicable to MLK Jr. as well): "The fact that disowning our aggression does not ultimately lead to peace is illustrated in the death of Mohandas Gandhi. Gandhi himself did much incredible work in the world. Tragically, his own life ended violently; his assassin may have reflected Gandhi's disowned aggressive shadow side which turned against him. John Lennon is another example. He was apparently aggressive and even violent as a young man. In later life he disowned that side of himself and tried to promote world peace. He too, died tragically and violently, still a young man. And it is my belief that, like Gandhi's assassin, Lennon's assassin reflected Lennon's own unresolved aggression". [shakti Gawain, _The Path of Transformation_, Mill Valley, CA: Nataraj Publishing, 1993.] Keval (who was only 10 years old when the 1960s ended, but still remembers the liberal peaceniks of that era!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 - Mike Brooker Ammachi Sunday, August 24, 2003 10:34 PM violent end of non-violent apostles Thank you, Keval! I think you expressed exactly what Paramahansa Yogananda intended - and did so much more clearly than I did. Even as I wrote the first email, I was thinking of the violent deaths that did NOT fit Yogananda's statement but also felt urged to pass his comment on because I had read that Ammachi held him in very high esteem. Thanks again for your clarity. Dixie > > "only those souls who still maintain even a > minimal level of > > violence within their natures will ever die > violent deaths." > > This is quite debatable. Mahatma Gandhi (who was an > apostle of non- > violence) died a violent death. Ramana Maharishi > once mentioned that > Gandhi was enlightened towards the end of his life. > Shakti Gawain is a pop-culture liberal-peacenik leftover from the 1960s. Nonetheless, she offers an interesting take on the assassinations of Gandhi and John Lennon (and could be applicable to MLK Jr. as well): "The fact that disowning our aggression does not ultimately lead to peace is illustrated in the death of Mohandas Gandhi. Gandhi himself did much incredible work in the world. Tragically, his own life ended violently; his assassin may have reflected Gandhi's disowned aggressive shadow side which turned against him. John Lennon is another example. He was apparently aggressive and even violent as a young man. In later life he disowned that side of himself and tried to promote world peace. He too, died tragically and violently, still a young man. And it is my belief that, like Gandhi's assassin, Lennon's assassin reflected Lennon's own unresolved aggression". [shakti Gawain, _The Path of Transformation_, Mill Valley, CA: Nataraj Publishing, 1993.] Keval (who was only 10 years old when the 1960s ended, but still remembers the liberal peaceniks of that era!) Sponsor Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! Ammachi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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