Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 I don't know about Ravi C., to whom this question seems directed, but as one who is on a path that involves surrender to the guru, I'd like to answer your last question: > Can you not just give your heart to God and lose > yourself in HIM. > Why do you have to give away your personal power and > money to > another human being no matter how great that person > is. Without opening up the whole debate about who is or isn't a Hindu... I practice Hinduism and believe deeply in the scriptures. It is in the Vedas that I find my framework for religious expression. I believe deeply in the guru/disciple relationship as laid out in the scriptures. I searched until I found Amma, who also talks about the guru/disciple relationship and the idea of surrender. I put my faith in her because it is my Truth, as laid out in the teachings I follow. I also won't pick-and-choose what I believe based on what's convenient for me. Since I took a mantra from Amma, I took her as my guru thereby putting my faith in her. Therefore, I believe her when she tells me "God and the guru are the same. Devotion to the guru is the same as devotion to God." If I didn't believe that, why should I believe anything she says? Gabriela --- markasme <markasme wrote: > Yes, there will always be people, gurus and their > henchmen, who will > encourage you to give up responsibility, but in the > end it is you > who must decide what is right. > > In the name of charity, you may be creating karma > for yourself > because YOU are following the scriptures to the 't' > and the person > receiving it is not and as a direct result innocent > people are > getting hurt. > > Can you not just give your heart to God and lose > yourself in HIM. > Why do you have to give away your personal power and > money to > another human being no matter how great that person > is. > > > > Ammachi, "Ravi Chivukula" > <ravichivukula@a...> wrote: > > I respect your opinion. I was just presenting an > alternative > viewpoint. The > > spiritual path I follow involves losing > responsibility so that > question > > doesn't arise, others like you may differ. > > > > - > > "markasme" <markasme> > > <Ammachi> > > Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:10 PM > > Re: False witness > > > > > > > Ammachi, "Ravi Chivukula" > > > <ravichivukula@a...> wrote: > > > >Yes Amma has millions of dollars stashed away > in the Red Planet > > > >Cooperative bank in Mars, luxurious villas in > Venus, a billion > foot > > > >yacht in the Milky Way...email me for more > details. > > > > > > > > > It is evident you love amma very much. But > seriously have you or > > > anyone you know ever asked that question or did > you give up that > > > responsibility (so important in today's insane > world). > > > > > > Sometimes it could be the people around the guru > that need to be > put > > > under the microscope more than the guru > himself/herself. Either > way > > > it would be very irresponsible not to do so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswarayai Namaha! > > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > > Ammachi > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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